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crazydiablo · 26th February 2009, 11:43

Thanks guys. Car has gone through a makeover from what it was earlier. I have not compromised on any aspect of the build. She has got the best that I can afford. There is more to come, but all in good time.

Thanks guys. The car has gone through quite a make over to make it a fun car to drive. The build is never complete, its a continuing journey, although I have to make sure each thing I do is carefully selected to cater to the future also.

v1p3r · 26th February 2009, 18:25

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Originally Posted by crazydiablo

Thanks guys. Car has gone through a makeover from what it was earlier. I have not compromised on any aspect of the build. She has got the best that I can afford. There is more to come, but all in good time.

Good to hear that. That's the only way to build a car. All you need now is upgraded suspension.

crazydiablo · 27th February 2009, 11:45

I am doing my bit of research on the suspension bit. I need a totally street setup as this is my daily drive and frequest out stations trips.

I am not sure if the coilovers/sport package will do me any good. I am looking at a little stiffer than normal suspension, where the car should not get unsettled if I hit a pothole at high speed.

v1p3r · 28th February 2009, 01:10

No then the coilover bit is overkill. They're only good if you're tracking the car often. Go with Konis or the Eibachs.

nitrous · 28th February 2009, 01:14

Don't even dream about coilovers for street/highway use. They're bloody stiff.
Infact, come watch the races and you can find these cars jumping over the tiny undulations on the race track.

ananthkamath · 28th February 2009, 03:26

nitrous and others, just curious about what the suspension aftermarket in india looks like. i'm having some ideas because its my domain now.

crazydiablo: dont mean to hijack your thread, the replies might be useful to you as well.

Mpower · 28th February 2009, 05:20

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

No then the coilover bit is overkill. They're only good if you're tracking the car often. Go with Konis or the Eibachs.

what the difference between coil overs and the others.
Eibach is a spring and Koni is a shock.

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Infact, come watch the races and you can find these cars jumping over the tiny undulations on the race track.

sounding like poor suspension setup. stiffer is not always better.

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Originally Posted by ananthkamath

nitrous and others, just curious about what the suspension aftermarket in india looks like. i'm having some ideas because its my domain now.

Importers like Methods, Petes, Leelas auto house, N1 offer Konis, Bilsteins, DMS etc etc. Leela rebuilds DMS too and Jayem now offers the J Anand shock which I suspect is based on a DMS monotube. Dunno if anybody makes springs

iceman91 · 28th February 2009, 11:49

yeah nitrous i too dont agree completely. It is all about the right setup or combination.
I have new suspension and it is a beauty, handles good on track and perfect on the street.

nitrous · 28th February 2009, 12:02

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Originally Posted by ananth

nitrous and others, just curious about what the suspension aftermarket in india looks like. i'm having some ideas because its my domain now.

Forget the supply. There simply is no demand for good handling. Everyone just wants BHP.

v1p3r · 28th February 2009, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Mpower

what the difference between coil overs and the others.
Eibach is a spring and Koni is a shock.

Koni also makes coilovers, AFAIK. And Eibach also makes dampers.

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Importers like Methods, Petes, Leelas auto house, N1 offer Konis, Bilsteins, DMS etc etc. Leela rebuilds DMS too and Jayem now offers the J Anand shock which I suspect is based on a DMS monotube. Dunno if anybody makes springs

The issue with buying a coilover is that they are normally track-oriented. As a result, spring rates are stiffer than you would want on street. I had the DMS 50mm tarmac coilovers on my car, and it's not something everyone can stomach on street.

28th February 2009, 17:03

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Forget the supply. There simply is no demand for good handling. Everyone just wants BHP.

I'm done with bhp temporarily, and have been looking around for suspension. The suspension on the swift D is fine for my driving, but I am getting greedy for more cornering speed.

Looking around for suspension upgrades-
Koni 37k(dampers only)
bilstein 60k
HKS 1.5 lakhs

demand is there(atleast from me

) but at those prices, only koni is within reach, that too after a heavy discount. really debating if its worth it for enthusiastic ghat driving.

v1p3r · 28th February 2009, 19:59

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Originally Posted by rippergeo

I'm done with bhp temporarily, and have been looking around for suspension. The suspension on the swift D is fine for my driving, but I am getting greedy for more cornering speed.

Looking around for suspension upgrades-
Koni 37k(dampers only)
bilstein 60k
HKS 1.5 lakhs

demand is there(atleast from me

) but at those prices, only koni is within reach, that too after a heavy discount. really debating if its worth it for enthusiastic ghat driving.

HKS -- 1 set used is selling for 90k. There is also the option of D2, which is a helluva lot cheaper.

Mpower · 28th February 2009, 20:03

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Koni also makes coilovers, AFAIK. And Eibach also makes dampers.

of late they have been offering complete shock and spring kits, but they probably buy from each other.

I was just wondering what the street lingo is

28th February 2009, 20:24

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

HKS -- 1 set used is selling for 90k. There is also the option of D2, which is a helluva lot cheaper.

I heard about the used HKS set. for some one like me who thinks konis are expensive... the 90k for a used set of HKS sunds like a cruel joke.
I have not heard good things about D2 racing.

MODS-Should we get these posts spilt off into a separate thread? We shouldnt be cluttering crazydiablo's thread.

IronWolf · 28th February 2009, 20:34

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Originally Posted by crazydiablo

Thanks guys. Car has gone through a makeover from what it was earlier. I have not compromised on any aspect of the build. She has got the best that I can afford. There is more to come, but all in good time.

Thanks guys. The car has gone through quite a make over to make it a fun car to drive. The build is never complete, its a continuing journey, although I have to make sure each thing I do is carefully selected to cater to the future also.

Hey Mohit, this sums it up very well. Sensible mods. Thanks for sharing, has given me good idea for Clutch and Brake replacements.

BTW, How much did the Advans cost? (Another extremely wise choice)

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Forget the supply. There simply is no demand for good handling. Everyone just wants BHP.

Nicely put.

26th February 2009, 11:43	#136
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	Thanks guys. Car has gone through a makeover from what it was earlier. I have not compromised on any aspect of the build. She has got the best that I can afford. There is more to come, but all in good time. Thanks guys. The car has gone through quite a make over to make it a fun car to drive. The build is never complete, its a continuing journey, although I have to make sure each thing I do is carefully selected to cater to the future also. Last edited by theMAG : 26th February 2009 at 13:48.
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27th February 2009, 11:45	#138
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	I am doing my bit of research on the suspension bit. I need a totally street setup as this is my daily drive and frequest out stations trips. I am not sure if the coilovers/sport package will do me any good. I am looking at a little stiffer than normal suspension, where the car should not get unsettled if I hit a pothole at high speed.
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28th February 2009, 01:10	#139
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	No then the coilover bit is overkill. They're only good if you're tracking the car often. Go with Konis or the Eibachs.
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28th February 2009, 01:14	#140
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Don't even dream about coilovers for street/highway use. They're bloody stiff. Infact, come watch the races and you can find these cars jumping over the tiny undulations on the race track.
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28th February 2009, 03:26	#141
ananthkamath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mangalore Posts: 1,209 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	nitrous and others, just curious about what the suspension aftermarket in india looks like. i'm having some ideas because its my domain now. crazydiablo: dont mean to hijack your thread, the replies might be useful to you as well.
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28th February 2009, 11:49	#143
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	yeah nitrous i too dont agree completely. It is all about the right setup or combination. I have new suspension and it is a beauty, handles good on track and perfect on the street.
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