ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

vijaycool · 3rd December 2011, 09:20

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Originally Posted by Gansan

I have seen barrels from both servo (at MSM) and Mobil (at ABT). Differs from time to time with different MASS. Both of them supply 20W40 as well as 5W30. Since MSM is directly owned by Maruti, this info may be significant. Now they are using MGO 20W40 for carburetted cars alone.

I am mulling the option of going MGO way from next service!

Long back, Hero-Honda standardized 10W30 for all bikes, though the recommended spec in my service manual was 20W40.

I feel 10W30 is too thin for Chennai. I have seen several honda and hero honda engines smoking to glory within 3 years. This could be owner's fault of not maintaining properly but this is not a suitable oil at all in south region. This recommendation is just to extract more mileage to keep the owners happy.

Gansan · 3rd December 2011, 17:22

^^My Splendor has crossed 95k KM on HH 4T+ (10W30)!

I posted the info to alert all Maruti owners as to what oil is being used at the MASS. Sure it is mentioned in the bill, but many people don't pay attention to the oil spec. I was informed this semi synth MGO is being used for all MPFI cars as per directive from Maruti and there will be no issues. I am thinking of Shell HX-7 for my next service, but this will solve a lot of hassles. The Zen actually runs very nicely on it!

The Alto LXi owners' manual does permit oils ranging from 10W30 to 20W50 under different conditions.

Amazing · 3rd December 2011, 18:40

yesterday i got shell HX7 can, 3.5l can for my santro. Its 15w 40. But the grade is SG+...is it not too low, considering that its a semi synthetic oil ? I remember seeing other similar semi synt oil of SM grade....experts, pls share ur views.
Will this imply a poor quality oil and have deterotd perf? For ref, castrol mag 10w30 is also sg+.

gpa · 3rd December 2011, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Amazing

yesterday i got shell HX7 can, 3.5l can for my santro. Its 15w 40.

You must have bought the HX5. What color is the can? The HX5 is yellow and the HX7 is blue.

Amazing · 3rd December 2011, 21:53

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Originally Posted by gpa

You must have bought the HX5. What color is the can? The HX5 is yellow and the HX7 is blue.

no gpa , its hx7. Blue can ..bought recent stock from shell pump in hinjewadi pune. If u want, i can post the can photos ..its hx7, 10w40. Btw, does hx5 come in 10w ? Earlier i said 15w ..that was wrong, chked the can now, its 10w40 ..

Amazing · 3rd December 2011, 22:37

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Originally Posted by Amazing

no gpa , its hx7. Blue can ..bought recent stock from shell pump in hinjewadi pune. If u want, i can post the can photos ..its hx7, 10w40. Btw, does hx5 come in 10w ? Earlier i said 15w ..that was wrong, chked the can now, its 10w40 ..

standing corrected ..its api SM grade and jaso sg+...got confused in that interpretation. No issues with the oil now ..

rock75 · 7th December 2011, 11:38

Baleno needs 3.3 litre engine oil (along with filter replacement) while most of the packs are in 3 litre capacity.

It is wastage of money to buy a 4 litre pack but some brands like castrol have 0.
5 litre easily available. Can we have some names for mineral/semi synthetic brands having 3.5 litre market pack, some brands that come to my mind are Veedol turbostar and Reliance. Total 3000 and castrol have 3 litre pack and hence are insufficient. Petronas has 3 and 4 litre packs.

ragzv · 7th December 2011, 12:33

Total 3000, Total 5000, Castrol Magnatec and few Shell oils also come in 3.5 ltr packs

Amazing · 7th December 2011, 13:54

Shell HX7 I have bought in 3.5 litre pack ...today only I have put 3.1 litres in my santro and kept the remaining 400ml for top. Its a fantastic semi synthetic oil .

SR-71 · 7th December 2011, 14:14

Friends, Help me with this. How do i find a can is genuine and not tampered with. There are lots of duplicate stuff floating around and I dont want to harm my engine.

Gansan · 7th December 2011, 14:30

^^Buy only from a known, reliable source even if the price is on the higher side. Then check if the seals are intact.

blackfire_9 · 7th December 2011, 22:15

Hey guys, does any one have any experience with the Motul 2000 MultiPower (20W50) engine oil?

I saw this new oil at my bike mechanic's workshop, & he uses it for servicing Enfields.

Drive safe.

iikish · 8th December 2011, 15:17

My car (Petrol Getz) did a 60K kM in 6 yrs... at this juncture is it ok to shift to Synthetic oil? If so, can someone suggest which variant I should use.
Thanks.

amalji · 8th December 2011, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by iikish

My car (Petrol Getz) did a 60K kM in 6 yrs... at this juncture is it ok to shift to Synthetic oil? If so, can someone suggest which variant I should use.
Thanks.

I switched to synthetic on my old Esteem @ 95,000 kms. It brought in a lot of difference to the NVH levels of the engine. So, it should work fine for you as well.

iikish · 9th December 2011, 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by amalji

I switched to synthetic on my old Esteem @ 95,000 kms. It brought in a lot of difference to the NVH levels of the engine. So, it should work fine for you as well.

Ok, thanks. Which variant and brand do you use?

3rd December 2011, 17:22	#3167
Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,535 Thanked: 5,550 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil ^^My Splendor has crossed 95k KM on HH 4T+ (10W30)! I posted the info to alert all Maruti owners as to what oil is being used at the MASS. Sure it is mentioned in the bill, but many people don't pay attention to the oil spec. I was informed this semi synth MGO is being used for all MPFI cars as per directive from Maruti and there will be no issues. I am thinking of Shell HX-7 for my next service, but this will solve a lot of hassles. The Zen actually runs very nicely on it! The Alto LXi owners' manual does permit oils ranging from 10W30 to 20W50 under different conditions. Last edited by Gansan : 3rd December 2011 at 17:23.
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3rd December 2011, 18:40	#3168
Amazing BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 236 Thanked: 128 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil yesterday i got shell HX7 can, 3.5l can for my santro. Its 15w 40. But the grade is SG+...is it not too low, considering that its a semi synthetic oil ? I remember seeing other similar semi synt oil of SM grade....experts, pls share ur views. Will this imply a poor quality oil and have deterotd perf? For ref, castrol mag 10w30 is also sg+.
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7th December 2011, 11:38	#3172
rock75 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: chandigarh Posts: 370 Thanked: 53 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil Baleno needs 3.3 litre engine oil (along with filter replacement) while most of the packs are in 3 litre capacity. It is wastage of money to buy a 4 litre pack but some brands like castrol have 0. 5 litre easily available. Can we have some names for mineral/semi synthetic brands having 3.5 litre market pack, some brands that come to my mind are Veedol turbostar and Reliance. Total 3000 and castrol have 3 litre pack and hence are insufficient. Petronas has 3 and 4 litre packs. Last edited by rock75 : 7th December 2011 at 11:58.
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7th December 2011, 12:33	#3173
ragzv BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 107 Thanked: 8 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil Total 3000, Total 5000, Castrol Magnatec and few Shell oils also come in 3.5 ltr packs
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7th December 2011, 13:54	#3174
Amazing BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 236 Thanked: 128 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil Shell HX7 I have bought in 3.5 litre pack ...today only I have put 3.1 litres in my santro and kept the remaining 400ml for top. Its a fantastic semi synthetic oil .
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7th December 2011, 14:14	#3175
SR-71 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 12.97N, 77.59E Posts: 843 Thanked: 2,289 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil Friends, Help me with this. How do i find a can is genuine and not tampered with. There are lots of duplicate stuff floating around and I dont want to harm my engine.
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7th December 2011, 14:30	#3176
Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,535 Thanked: 5,550 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil ^^Buy only from a known, reliable source even if the price is on the higher side. Then check if the seals are intact.
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7th December 2011, 22:15	#3177
blackfire_9 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,075 Thanked: 191 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil Hey guys, does any one have any experience with the Motul 2000 MultiPower (20W50) engine oil? I saw this new oil at my bike mechanic's workshop, & he uses it for servicing Enfields. Drive safe.
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8th December 2011, 15:17	#3178
iikish Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15 Thanked: 3 Times	Re: ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil My car (Petrol Getz) did a 60K kM in 6 yrs... at this juncture is it ok to shift to Synthetic oil? If so, can someone suggest which variant I should use. Thanks.
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