[Vik0728]

Originally Posted by Sportztourer

The LED headlight looks beautiful & here is the video of it's performance

Thank you Sportztourer for sharing this video here.

I am not sure if it was the camera, but I feel the RTR's headlight has a lot more "Useable Lighting", compared to the D400 !!

Does anybody else feel this or have I got my lines crossed??

[Sportztourer]

Originally Posted by Vik0728

Thank you Sportztourer for sharing this video here.

I am not sure if it was the camera, but I feel the RTR's headlight has a lot more "Useable Lighting", compared to the D400 !!

Does anybody else feel this or have I got my lines crossed??

Yes you are right, if you observe the lower beam in the video

https://youtu.be/fRrpGX-SH4o

You will find that Apache 200 has better spread at main beam however the Dominar has better intensity due to the LED lights.
One thing to note about Dominar 400's light is that light beam remains ON in high beam in headlight off mode (again showed in the video).

[Sid13]

I did try to get a test ride but it seems like dealers here in Kochi doesn't have a dedicated test bike yet (not 100% sure about it). Two of my colleagues managed to get a test ride both said they felt lack of torque in the lower revline and thus it might be a not-so-good urban bike.

Waiting for an opportunity to test.

[ringoism]

Originally Posted by Sportztourer

the Dominar has better intensity due to the LED lights. One thing to note about Dominar 400's light is that light beam remains ON in high beam in headlight off mode (again showed in the video).

Well, it's not so bad to have a high-beam on in the daytime... doesn't really blind anyone, and helps prevent accidents statistically speaking. I usually run mine in the day; Thus happy that the more bikes come with this feature, the less continuously I'll have people shouting "Light ON!!!" at me from all quarters.

Originally Posted by ashis89

A white Dominar was following me 25-30 ft away for a short distance. I tried to see the bike in my IRVM and was dazzled by its headlights...it was quite painful for me to look at them. I am not sure how difficult the glare will be at night.

First of all, the Dominar looks great and if its on-road feel is as good as the specs suggest and it really can get 35kmpl on the highway, well, what a complete gamechanger!!!! Ten years ago something like this would've been a complete fantasy (the few that tried failed utterly in this market).

On the LIGHTS: I just ordered a good quality, highly rated, 3000LM LED replacement headlamp for my bike, and I can say this: There wouldn't be any problems AT ALL with LED headlamps, HID's, or much of anything else IF the general population would FIRST get their headlights aimed correctly, SECONDLY, finally accept that it makes good sense and is beneficial for ALL involved (not least of all oneself) when lights are:

-DIPPED (always, always, ALWAYS) TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC;

and also:

-DIPPED WHEN RUNNING AT CLOSE RANGE BEHIND OTHER VEHICLES.

and (what the heck) also:

-DIPPED when stopping alongside the road to talk with ones' cousin-brother or answer nature's call or whatever else.

Finally, having accepted universal realities, it remains for each to take personal responsibility and to do the needful. I've heard many useless excuses over the years concerning this behavior, from people who should know better.

But so much unnecessary death and carnage (not to mention feelings of helplessness / extreme annoyance) could be avoided if everyone would stop ignoring what has been clear to those engineering these machines and their lighting, along with road safety experts, enlightened lawmakers, etc, etc, for probably at least 75 years now...!!! It is rather ridiculous that in 2017 so many are still clueless / careless / ill-mannered.

We're going to comment about a vehicle's lights being potentially too dazzling/bright while it's entirely a case of refusing to use them as intended that causes problems!

Most of the rest of the world (including the impoverished, uneducated "banana republics" of the world - and believe me, I've been there) have figured all this out by now. It's getting about time, no?

Final word in this context: If you own a Dominar / plan to own a Dominar, please for your own sake and everyone else's, make it a habit to dip the lights under the aforementioned three conditions. And tell your Dominar-owning / LED-running riends, too. It was bad enough with halogens...

-Eric

[rohitoasis]

Another update from this friend of mine.

The bike refuses to start today morning. Would non usage of 1 day cause such issues?

He can hear the fuel pump activating as he thumbs the starter. But nothing after that.

Service personnel are coming today evening to take away the bike.

Can other owners notice similar issues or is this an isolated case?

[Rehaan]

Mak tweeted this to us. I haven't seen any other similar cases yet...

Pathetic quality of alloys. bent on a very small pothole. worst customer service.. Dropped mail but no reply.

[KK_HakunaMatata]

Originally Posted by rohitoasis

Another update from this friend of mine.

The bike refuses to start today morning. Would non usage of 1 day cause such issues?

He can hear the fuel pump activating as he thumbs the starter. But nothing after that.

Service personnel are coming today evening to take away the bike.

Can other owners notice similar issues or is this an isolated case?

I have read about bike not starting or going off while riding in xbhp. Owner initially thought it was an issue with the fuse, but ultimately it turned out that the wires were not fastened properly to the battery terminal, a case of loose connection and service personnel rectified it.

KK

[Vik0728]

Originally Posted by Rehaan

Mak tweeted this[/url] to us.

Pathetic quality of alloys. bent on a very small pothole. worst customer service.. Dropped mail but no reply.

I have been on the hunt for a 2 wheeler and whichever way I looked at it, D400 made lot of sense. I visited the Shivraj Bajaj on Kasturba Road yesterday for a TD and if things fell in place, book one.

The following was the series of events:

- I was asked to register myself for the TD by scanning a BR Code, which I did with all the necessary details.

- I had to wait for the so called 'Sales Specialist' to come down and meet me, which took over 20 minutes.

- Then they asked me to fill in another challan, which apparently was the Gate Pass. So the customer has to fill in the Gate pass at Bajaj

- I wanted my wife to sit pillion and requested for the same. I was asked to give my bike to the Sales Specialist who would accompany us for the TD!!

- Just when I assumed the ordeal was over and got into my riding gear, I was given another dumb form to fill in.

I had reached the end of my patience and asked them to take the TD docs and the D400, and ride into hills.

When I was about to leave, a D400 customer who had bought the bike in Jan had come down demanding for a replacement of the bike as there were loads of fuel & oil leakages since the 2nd week. He was promptly directed to get in touch with Bajaj!!


No more HAMARA BAJAJ products for me.


On the flip-side, I visited the Benelli Showroom, got a TD of the TNT250 & TNT300 with my wife as pillion, and was out with the necessary documents in under 30 minutes!!
Waiting for the FZ25 Launch & TD, before I make the decision this weekend.

[AtheK]

I think it's kind of becoming a norm, when ever a product with good features and a good price tag to boot is announced. SA already know that they will achieve the sale numbers and hence become very relaxed and start taking things for granted.

Sorry to hear about your experience, and i second your decision. The second part of ordeal where you are informing about a customer having issues with the bike seems horrifying. Hoping it's a one off case.

Even the alloys going bent so soon is pretty bad, specially coming from bajaj who have quite a bit of experience with indian road conditions.

[KK_HakunaMatata]

Originally Posted by Vik0728

I have been on the hunt for a 2 wheeler and whichever way I looked at it, D400 made lot of sense. I visited the Shivraj Bajaj on Kasturba Road yesterday for a TD and if things fell in place, book one.

The following was the series of events:

- I was asked to register myself for the TD by scanning a BR Code, which I did with all the necessary details.

- I had to wait for the so called 'Sales Specialist' to come down and meet me, which took over 20 minutes.

- Then they asked me to fill in another challan, which apparently was the Gate Pass. So the customer has to fill in the Gate pass at Bajaj

- I wanted my wife to sit pillion and requested for the same. I was asked to give my bike to the Sales Specialist who would accompany us for the TD!!

- Just when I assumed the ordeal was over and got into my riding gear, I was given another dumb form to fill in.

I had reached the end of my patience and asked them to take the TD docs and the D400, and ride into hills.

I have a completely contrasting experience with Popular Bajaj. I took TD two times and both the times it was hassle free and absolutely no forms filled and no gate pass and no scanning codes either. Too tedious to take a TD

Also, after discussing with the manager, they were ready to give a TD with my wife as pillion, but wife could not join me to the showroom for some reasons (though during the 1st TD they allowed a short ride with pillion inside their premise).

I have booked one and tomorrow I am going to select the bike from the lot (which they agreed after my request) and do PDI.

Suggest you to try another showroom like Kalyani or Popular.

Originally Posted by Vik0728

When I was about to leave, a D400 customer who had bought the bike in Jan had come down demanding for a replacement of the bike as there were loads of fuel & oil leakages since the 2nd week. He was promptly directed to get in touch with Bajaj!!

I have read about this in xbhp and understand that it happens when the fuel is filled upto the brim, though not sure as I am not a biker as such.

Edit: Did you consider the 2017 KTMs, 250 and 390?

KK

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by Vik0728

No more HAMARA BAJAJ products for me.

I have owned 4 Bajaj bikes (including 2 Pulsars) and will agree with what you experienced. I have had similar experience with Popular Bajaj Banerghatta road, Bengaluru. But I must say that I had worse experience at a Hero dealer. The experience was much better in TVS and Honda showroom. In the end, it the Pulsar I liked the most and went with it. I never regretted my decision ever. I made sure that after the free services were over, I never walked into the dealerships. Bikes are simple and a good FNG is what you need to take care of it. It has always been the way for me.
So, if you really like the Dominar and can bear the Bajaj dealer during 4-5 visits (2 for booking and delivery and 3 for free services), you can ahead and buy it.

I am thinking about my 3rd Pulsar or 6th Bajaj bike.

[payeng]

Originally Posted by Rehaan

Mak tweeted this to us. I haven't seen any other similar cases yet...

Need more reports before we spot a trend and product quality can be suspected.

[roamer]

Originally Posted by payeng

Need more reports before we spot a trend and product quality can be suspected.

True. Hope it's not haunted with rim issues as the Duke went through.

[farhadtarapore]

Originally Posted by roamer

True. Hope it's not haunted with rim issues as the Duke went through.

Regarding the customer service it's true. After calling the customer care number thrice they forwarded the email i had sent to the "concerned" department. Again, no reply or call from anyone. Luckily it was for cancellation of the booking.

[payeng]

Wished Bajaj had set up an Exclusive Probiking (its earstwhile concept) type setup for the Dominar

If it wants to provide a premium experience for the customer in order to stand apart from the Royal Enfields.. then expecting the same set up which Sells/Services it's CT100/Platina/Discover etc. to do so would be unrealistic.

The irony is that the Bajaj Probiking concept was implemented (and subsequently converted now into KTM showrooms) before RE started its current Boutique type showrooms.. and see where RE has reached now (biking accessories, merchandise and clothing to boot)