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Cerulean blue is discontinued, was available in pre facelift models. Regards, Shashi | |
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| ![]() Does the AT come with triptronic or paddle shift? Last edited by Gannu_1 : 1st May 2020 at 03:03. Reason: Grammar. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() No, it doesnt. Regards, Shashi Last edited by Gannu_1 : 1st May 2020 at 03:04. Reason: Quoted post edited. Thanks. |
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Here's whats wrong with the DCT https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...eltos-dct.html (Serious gearbox issue in my Kia Seltos DCT) Second, what is mode in Seltos DCT Transmission? Or any DCT transmission? Pretty sure it doesnt come with a "Traffic mode" that people forget to shift into. And as for the DCT not working in heavy traffic, then whats the point? Everyone prefers the Manual on the highway, and weren't Automatics made to make traffic more bearable? | |
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| ![]() Great Review of the Brezza Petrol. Begining of 2020, we were on the lookout for a replacement for our 2015 Baleno (now done 75k) We have a Astar AT(2013 done 70k) also which does duty as our city car. Plan was to sell both and buy a compact SUV with an auto transmission. Brezza Petrol AT was our most awaited car, being a Maruti loyalist. But after seeing it in flesh and taking a TD of the car, wasn't able to convince myself for the same. The car had left me and my family truly disappointed. It feels at least a generation older than the competition. The K15 engine did not feel as rev happy or responsive in comarison to the k12 in my Baleno. Interiors are not at all improved and remains a major sore point. The 'premium' pricing is not at all sensible either. ![]() So dropped my plan immediately. Which was one of the best decisions I have made lately. Have to thank Maruti for making my decision easy. With the current economic scenario having some reserve cash and being EMI free is more important than having a new car. Once things get better I am sure there would be a lot more choices for the customer. May be a nexon with 500+ kms real life range. |
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DCT, as you know, is a complex fast-shifting gearbox. In traffic, the shift rpm hover in zones where it upshifts/downshifts continuously. Hence, I use the manual mode during this period to keep the gearbox from overworking/shifting needlessly (or the sports mode, which enables a higher shift rpm. Every shift requires an oil pressure buildup and valve actuation to enable a shift. If this happens every second, the oil, due the rapid compressions overheats and can damage the systems around it. Manual mode does not require me to hold clutches and thus making driving in traffic a breeze. And it downshifts automatically thereby I only have to worry about the upshifts which come with a tap of the gear lever. Hope this helps. | |
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As a fellow VWAG owner, I am very familiar with the phrase "when things dont go wrong, nothing beats these cars, but when they do, they go catastrophically wrong" My dad's 1.2 Polo manual is closing in on 90K KMs. Thanks for explaining the working of a VW DCT, but that has little to do here, as , from what I understand, the DCT used in both he Venue as well as the Seltos is a dry unit, so there's no oil buildup. And the oil works as both a lubricant as well as a coolant, which leaves them particularly prone to over-heating in traffic. Poor design, really. | |
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Hey Crazy_Driver. Brilliant review. I just had a doubt about this statement of yours. Because according to this image posted in another thread by "MunnabhaiMBBS", the gear ration for the 4th in Automatic is substantially taller than even the 5th in Manual. So would you not say that the taller gear is what gets the extra kmpl, and thus the Automatic would be more comfortable on the highway as well? ![]() Quote:
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Both the reviews mention good driveability. How about the mid end and top end of both engines? Is brezza a superior choice because of lighter weight and 4 cylinders? | |
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GTO has, at various places in this forum said that the 1.5 DragonFire was/is superior to even the EcoBoost, and is the best NA compact SUV petrol. Maruti's 1.5 Petrol is decent, not exceptional (unlike their k12 engine). Their 1.5 Diesel though was really good. (check 1.5 diesel review) In one is looking for a petrol manual SUV, and engine is the most important criteria, one has only two options, 1.5 Dragon or the 1.2 Turbo Petrol in the XUV300. I'm sorry, but I don't really rate Venue's 1.0 Turbo Petrol very highly due to horrible low end torque, but try for yourself. | |
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And if dragon engine is better than brezza's, then I would like to know in what aspects is it better? | |
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| ![]() Official T-BHP review of the Brezza 1.5 Petrol Quote:
What GTO had to say in a thread between the Brezza 1.5 and S-cross 1.5 Quote:
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ARAI FE is not calculated based on highway speeds, but based on the emissions during based on a set driving course. Here is an old thread on the same - https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ncy-tests.html (Article on how ARAI conducts its fuel-efficiency tests) Secondly, the automatic certainly has a tall fourth gear - but is not comfortable because it can't hold on to that ratio! The moment you want to overtake, even if the speeds are above 100kmph, it shifts down to 3rd and screams to glory. The gearbox would have been manageable on the highway if they had provided an option to manually select the gears IMHO. Quote:
Personally speaking - I would prefer the Ecosport. It has good driveability for the city and is revv-happy on the highways, whereas the Brezza is not fun towards the top end. K15 doesn't impress in refinement as much as a K12 does and the difference with the 3 cylinder Dragon petrol is not clear as night and day! Comparing the AT, it certainly becomes a no brainer with the 6-speed torque converter and the paddle shifters. And - Ecosport offers more for the price as well. Last edited by CrAzY dRiVeR : 1st May 2020 at 09:50. | ||
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