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It doesn't make any sense at all that the Indian Venue and Sonet are built on the K1 platform. Some silly, unknown websites claiming the Indian Venue is built on the K1 platform doesn't make it true. Just try fitting the large 1.5 U2 CRDi engine, let alone the 1.5 U2 CRDi + 6-speed torque converter on the K1 platform. It simply cannot be done. Nor can the large wheels and tyres on the Venue & Sonet. The GB platform is the one the Elite i20 & i20 Active are built on, and it is also the platform for the Venue and Sonet. The first gen. i20 is built on the PB platform. The current Verna is built on the Elantra's K2 platform. All sub-4m cars from Hyundai may be built on the K1 platform. But what are those sub-4m cars? The Grand i10 Nios and Aura, apart from the Santro. The Venue is not a sub-4m car. It measures 4040 mm in length. It was specifically modified for India to become a sub-4m car. Even the current i20 & upcoming i20 are not sub-4m cars. They measure over 4m, but are specifically modified for India to duck under the sub-4m mark. Last edited by RSR : 20th September 2020 at 12:24. | |
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![]() And I hope this reference does not mean the same as whatever you said about the other website... Here is an extract from Team-BHP Official Review: Quote:
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Why should they go to great uncrossable lengths to specifically build the Indian Venue on the K1 platform (which cannot even accommodate the 1.5 U2 CRDi engine), when they already have the i20's GB platform localised in India for the Elite i20/i20 Active? When they have been churning out the GB platform of the i20 (which easily accomodates the 1.5 U2 CRDi) by the thousands every month in India, they will build the Venue and Sonet on the same. Last edited by RSR : 20th September 2020 at 12:57. | |||
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Reference: Hyundai Confirms, No Delay In Launch Of New-Gen Hyundai Elite i20 - Link Quote:
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| ![]() ![]() Whatever be the platform, this thread should be an eye opener for whomsoever is advocating build quality https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/road-...an-market.html (Made-in-India Hyundai i20 scores 3 stars in NCAP test (South African market)) Most of the Hyundai's and Kia's made in India are exported only to emerging markets like South Africa, Latin America and middle east. Whereas the same cars sold in Australian and American(made in Korea) markets are different in dimensions & weights when compared to Indian or Indian exported ones. Which should prove that only 1 platform is used to both Indian market and export to emerging markets. I would be more than glad to be corrected, so please enlighten me if anyone finds a reference of these cars being exported to America or Australia to which the 4-star crash rating applies. Last edited by jetsetgo08 : 20th September 2020 at 13:18. |
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| ![]() For a better reference you need to wait for the Team-BHP Official Review of new i20 when it launches. Sorry but I am not an auto journalist with a mic who goes to Hyundai and asks them what it is based on and neither do I have any informers within Hyundai-Kia and neither have I ever visited the Hyundai or Kia factory. I have to rely on sources such as these and I am transparent about the basis of my claims. Cannot help beyond this. In the meanwhile, if you have genuine proof points kindly share it with the Team-BHP Mods/Admins and they will be open to correct the Venue Official Review if it is having incorrect information which is what you are claiming now. Meanwhile, I don't find it surprising at all that Hyundai-Kia have resorted to using K1 platform for a whole range of cars since Maruti is already doing it. Most of the Maruti cars Ignis, Swift, Baleno and Ertiga all are based on the same platform - the Heartect Platform and this constitutes a mix of Sub-4M and >4M cars since the new Ertiga is 4395mm Last edited by GTO : 21st September 2020 at 07:31. Reason: Quoted post has been deleted |
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https://auto.economictimes.indiatime...erica/55507719 I think it scored decently in the Euro NCAP. As for Hyundai- https://www.financialexpress.com/aut...-2020/1976677/ Includes one country from Europe and some from Asia Pacific. Last edited by wilful : 20th September 2020 at 13:34. | |
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Remember the 1st generation Hyundai Creta? How some folks on Team-BHP were so eager to claim that it was allegedly built "on the i20 platform" or that the Creta was "an i20 on stilts", and how wrong those folks were??? The 1st generation Creta for India and the world was built on the Elantra (MD) platform and had absolutely nothing to do with the i20! Last edited by RSR : 20th September 2020 at 13:33. | |
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![]() If you say you have verified the part about 1st Gen Creta, please do share how you verified it - since there is still lot of confusion about the 1st gen Creta platform and no conclusive evidence. Why should anyone take what you are saying on face value as a fact? If understood your logic, the gap you are seeing is that the engine is too large for the platform. Most of the articles refer to these platforms as "Modified K1", "Modified K2", "more Advanced version of K1" - but there is no information on what these modifications were. So is it possible that these "modifications" are enabling Hyundai-Kia to fit the larges engines on these smaller platforms? Last edited by vsrivatsa : 20th September 2020 at 13:39. | |
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| ![]() I strongly feel that Kia should prove the safety of Sonet platform by testing it in GNCAP. Nexon and XUV300 in the same segment taken the lead in safety. Not able to understand what is preventing them to do crash test? Till now it will be a guessing game of the platform and "expect similar safety" |
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| ![]() I donot know exactly how,where & who started the discussion around the K1 platform and the models built on it. Just want to share a piece of authenticated information to end the speculations running across multiple threads. Platform A : Santro, Nios, Aura Platform B : i20, Venue/Sonet, Creta/Seltos [Keeping the nomenclature of the platforms aside to avoid already existing confusion] Even though 2 models share same platform; minor modifications are made depending on the bodytype, dimensions, interior packaging etc. In a very holistic POV, Engine room in the platform is usually fixed unless it is a modular platform. So engine options provided can be one of an easy indicator to know if two models are sharing a platform or not. |
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| ![]() I donot know how, where and who started the discussions on the K1 platforms and the models built on it. Just giving you some authenticated piece of information which can end all the speculations and discussions running on multiple threads. Platform A : Santro, Nios, Aura Platform B : i20, Venue/Sonet, Creta/Seltos Even though 2 models are built on the same platform, there will be minor differences based on the bodytype, dimensions, interior packaging etc. In a more holistic POV, engine room in a platform is fixed unless it is an modular platform like VW's MQB. The engine options provided usually give an easy indication for us to know whether 2 models are sharing the same platform or not. Last edited by abhkop : 20th September 2020 at 16:36. |
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Which one do you want to be technically proven first? That the Indian Venue (QXi) and the international Venue (QX) are built on the same i20 (GB) platform? Since you yourself mentioned that the global Venue is built on the i20 (GB) platform? Or, do you want technical proof that the 1st generation Creta is built on the Elantra (MD) platform? I have now got access to technical details, but it will take a bit of time to get the exact ones for these two cars. So do give me some time, please. In the meanwhile, here is a little teaser for you: ![]() ![]() Last edited by GTO : 21st September 2020 at 07:32. Reason: Do NOT personally attack BHPians | |
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