[Turbolove]

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

The two sizes are not interchangeable - the AX has 30.5" dia wheels from factory, while LX has 31.1". As the LX comes with ESP, TCS, BLD etc., may not be a good idea modifying the wheel dia without calibrating the electronics.

The right downsize to match factory spec of the LX will be 255/75 R16 or 275/70 R16.

You are right about the wheel dia changing, however its under the 2% change limit which seems to be commonly used limit when changing tyre sizes.

Would the electronics have to be recalibrated even when upsizing the tyre ? because that seems to be quite common amongst Thar owners. A few posts above user shankar.balan had posted that the correct upsize for 18inch is 265/60r18 which gives a 1.7% smaller circumference, wouldn't that also require the electronic aids to be reworked ?

[yadavsid21]

Originally Posted by aamishdhingra

7. Earlier was a Convertible top - purchased the OEM Hard top.

Nice mods. Do you mind sharing the cost of HT and installation.
Thanks

[sahil624]

Originally Posted by aamishdhingra

7. Earlier was a Convertible top - purchased the OEM Hard top.

Hi, your Thar looks stunning in black. Also, would mind sharing the reason you converted your CT to HT? And how much did it cost? Whether you are happy with the HT fitting? I assume that you got it fitted somewhere outside the Mahindra Service Centre.

Thanks

[BleueNinja]

Hello fellow forum members, I recently created a thread where in I am looking for a replacement for my Polo which is our secondary car with Harrier being the primary. So far we haven't been able to find that one car that can make us feel comfortable in letting the polo go. This car will be primarily driven by my Spouse for her city commutes and will also be used to ferry our overly pampered Golden Retriever. So the car needs to be Safe, Proper Automatic and less than 4 m in length. We weren't able to finalise any car so far until we had a surprise wildcard.

A Surprise Wildcard Okay hear me out on this one, from Polo to Thar might make it seem we are all over the place, yes I agree it seems that way but it doesn't hurt to try all options when you are on a tight budget , does it ?

Thar RWD Petrol AT :- We stumbled across the Mahindra showroom which was nearby to Kia and TATA and thought of checking out Thar again because coming from a family where we had Bolero, Armada, Gypsy King and Scorpio I have always drooled over the Thar and wife likes Thar as well. We had to let go of idea of owning Thar last year because we needed a 'family car' and Thar wasn't that. Hence we shifted towards XUV 700 and Harrier with Harrier ultimately being picked. However, we now have that family car so we can consider a lifestyle vehicle as the second car ? I mean it's less than 4 m in length, it's safe, it has a road presence and it is to be driven sedately. Add to that waiting periods are now down to 1 month

with these thoughts in mind we did take TD of Thar RWD Petrol Automatic and I , yes I was in love with it all over again. The petrol engine is tactile, quick and super responsive. Aisin Gearbox is definitely aimed towards aggressive shifts which makes the car fun to drive. The typical BOF high seating is heavenly. BOF also leads to pitch and yaw being pronounced But that's the beauty of it. This TD reminded me of our Scorpio which we had for a decade before it was sold. I think I am in Love again but , I will have to keep my emotions in check as it's my Partner for whom we are looking for a replacement and not me.

My partner has her reservation towards it. She did enjoy the TD herself and is definitely elated by the idea of owning a Thar for herself specially the Red Rage colour but isn't sure how practical it would be to replace a Hatchback like Polo with Thar. So I look to your advice, have you been using Thar for your city runs and more importantly if your partner drives the Thar how comfortable it is for them or their views regarding it.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers !

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by Turbolove

You are right about the wheel dia changing, however its under the 2% change limit which seems to be commonly used limit when changing tyre sizes.

Would the electronics have to be recalibrated even when upsizing the tyre ? because that seems to be quite common amongst Thar owners. A few posts above user shankar.balan had posted that the correct upsize for 18inch is 265/60r18 which gives a 1.7% smaller circumference, wouldn't that also require the electronic aids to be reworked ?

Honestly, I'm not the expert. But I play it safe and try and stick to the same dia as much as I can. The electronics may work perfectly with upsize most of the time, but I'd ideally want then to with perfectly all the time. M&M won't say it will (or won't) with a different dia tyre.

Which is a pain with this vehicle, as there are no "right" upsize or downsize if you want to stick to 255mm tyre width (or even 265) and the dia.

A lot of Thars have upsized to 265/60 R18 or even 285/60 R18. But in my Thar, it was easy for the wheel alignment to get messed up enough for the tyres to rub against the lower arm. At factory settings/ perfect alignment, there's hardly an inch gap at full lock - which means I'll have to go with a negative offset rim to safely upsize the width. And that's another can I don't want to open - and at 50k KM on stock CEATs, I'm looking for a tyre change.

[highwaypatrol]

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

Honestly, I'm not the expert. But I play it safe and try and stick to the same dia as much as I can. The electronics may work perfectly with upsize most of the time, but I'd ideally want then to with perfectly all the time. M&M won't say it will (or won't) with a different dia tyre.

Which is a pain with this vehicle, as there are no "right" upsize or downsize if you want to stick to 255mm tyre width (or even 265) and the dia.

A lot of Thars have upsized to 265/60 R18 or even 285/60 R18. But in my Thar, it was easy for the wheel alignment to get messed up enough for the tyres to rub against the lower arm. At factory settings/ perfect alignment, there's hardly an inch gap at full lock - which means I'll have to go with a negative offset rim to safely upsize the width. And that's another can I don't want to open - and at 50k KM on stock CEATs, I'm looking for a tyre change.

Hi Phonenix, I guess we both are on the same boat. I just finished 45K kms and my Thar is craving for a shoe change.

Iam very much interested in BFG KO2 or Maxxis Bravo AT 980 in 265 60 R18, however exorbitant prices quoted for BFG (Upwards of 22K by multiple dealers) and unavailability of Maxxis tyres in India is delaying my plans.

Most of the distributors are not getting stock of Maxxis Bravos for the past few months at least here in Bangalore. Anyone in Bangalore can connect me with the correct Maxxis dealer who has stocks? I would be grateful.

Please do keep us updated about your tyre plans!

Regards
Highwaypatrol

[Turbolove]

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

Honestly, I'm not the expert. But I play it safe and try and stick to the same dia as much as I can. The electronics may work perfectly with upsize most of the time, but I'd ideally want then to with perfectly all the time. M&M won't say it will (or won't) with a different dia tyre.

Which is a pain with this vehicle, as there are no "right" upsize or downsize if you want to stick to 255mm tyre width (or even 265) and the dia.

A lot of Thars have upsized to 265/60 R18 or even 285/60 R18. But in my Thar, it was easy for the wheel alignment to get messed up enough for the tyres to rub against the lower arm. At factory settings/ perfect alignment, there's hardly an inch gap at full lock - which means I'll have to go with a negative offset rim to safely upsize the width. And that's another can I don't want to open - and at 50k KM on stock CEATs, I'm looking for a tyre change.

You're right about there being no correct upsize or downsize options while maintaining the wheel dia. However besides the wheel dia we would also have to consider if the tyre section is increased, wouldn't that result in more stress on the tie rod ends and ball joints ?

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by Turbolove

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However besides the wheel dia we would also have to consider if the tyre section is increased, wouldn't that result in more stress on the tie rod ends and ball joints ?

Depends - if the alloys are not changed, and are wide enough to take the new size, the impact is relatively less because the overall CG of the wheel with respect to the vehicle wouldn't change.

But if one were to go with a negative offset (tyre jutting out of the wheel arch while at the same vertical plane of reference vs stock), will load the joints and ends more.

And not going with a negative offset when going for a wider tyre width will make the tyre touch the lower arm as there's barely an inch gap there at stock.

[DCEite]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

For Tall persons with long legs, a dead pedal in the new Thar is a hindrance and not a help. The already cramped footwell gets further cramped on the left side.
As a tall person I am happier that this dead pedal can be added on as an after market accessory for those who require it. There are plenty of options available for this.

I drove a friend's Thar's Diesel AT today for about 10 kms. What immediately took me by surprise as soon as I got on to the driver's seat was how cramped the footwell is !

Mind you I am 5'11 and have slightly longer legs than an average joe (I get issue of my knees touching left lower dashboard on many cars including Harrier/Safari, Nexon, Punch), BUT, Thar is on another level. I had to bend my knees in an uncomfortable way and still could not figure out how to manage the cramped feeling for the left leg.

I am surprised this issue has neven been highlighted (except rarely like in the above quoted post), but it is a deal breaker for me if I ever plan to buy the Thar.

@owners, how do you manage ?

[rajeevsulu]

Originally Posted by DCEite

I drove a friend's Thar's Diesel AT today for about 10 kms. What immediately took me by surprise as soon as I got on to the driver's seat was how cramped the footwell is !

Mind you I am 5'11 and have slightly longer legs than an average joe (I get issue of my knees touching left lower dashboard on many cars including Harrier/Safari, Nexon, Punch), BUT, Thar is on another level. I had to bend my knees in an uncomfortable way and still could not figure out how to manage the cramped feeling for the left leg.

I am surprised this issue has neven been highlighted (except rarely like in the above quoted post), but it is a deal breaker for me if I ever plan to buy the Thar.

@owners, how do you manage ?

I am 6'4.I just push the seat as far as it will go behind. Bring it forward one notch and that is my perfect position to drive. I am very comfortable and have no issues at all
Cheers

[highwaypatrol]

Finally decided to go ahead with BFG KO2 , 265/60/R18 after 45K kms with Ceat Czars!

Steering has become surprisingly lighter, handling has improved many folds and a little bit of extra road noise as compared the stock ones.

Over all very happy with the new tyres, total damage is 21.5K per tyre with balancing and alignment paid extra.

The over all stance has completely changed and looks great for me.

Thanks for all the suggestion guys!

[DCEite]

Originally Posted by DCEite

I drove a friend's Thar's Diesel AT today for about 10 kms. What immediately took me by surprise as soon as I got on to the driver's seat was how cramped the footwell is !

Mind you I am 5'11 and have slightly longer legs than an average joe (I get issue of my knees touching left lower dashboard on many cars including Harrier/Safari, Nexon, Punch), BUT, Thar is on another level. I had to bend my knees in an uncomfortable way and still could not figure out how to manage the cramped feeling for the left leg.

I am surprised this issue has neven been highlighted (except rarely like in the above quoted post), but it is a deal breaker for me if I ever plan to buy the Thar.

@owners, how do you manage ?

Originally Posted by rajeevsulu

I am 6'4.I just push the seat as far as it will go behind. Bring it forward one notch and that is my perfect position to drive. I am very comfortable and have no issues at all
Cheers

I took some photos to show the issue. There are two issues basically:

1. Left part of knee touching the lower part of dashboard.

2. V shaped footwear that gets cramped and I have to rest my left leg at an angle to the floor:

[navino87]

Took delivery of Thar LX AT 4WD HT in Everest white colour yesterday. Planning for following modifications

1. Wrangler style seven slot ABS Grill.
2. KING Kong 7 inch LED Headlight
3. LED fog light
4. Dead pedal
5. Grab handle

Please suggest if I should avoid something or add anything..

[rajeevsulu]

Originally Posted by navino87

Took delivery of Thar LX AT 4WD HT in Everest white colour yesterday. Planning for following modifications

1. Wrangler style seven slot ABS Grill.
2. KING Kong 7 inch LED Headlight
3. LED fog light
4. Dead pedal
5. Grab handle

Please suggest if I should avoid something or add anything..

Congratulations. Please drive a few hundred kilometers and then decide on the dead pedal. That is if you really need one.
Cheers

[sandeeprawat]

Originally Posted by comfortablynumb

You can check and validate the rates here:

https://www.withyouhamesha.com/shield.aspx

Could someone share latest prices for 4th and 5th year extended warranty please. Unable to check as I'm not registered.

Originally Posted by navino87

Took delivery of Thar LX AT 4WD HT in Everest white colour yesterday. Planning for following modifications

Could you share if you bought insurance from Mahindra or outside and how much it costed you? Can email at thar - AT - sandeeprawat d0t com


Dealer is quoting me 110806 for insurance (1 yr comp. + 3 yr third party). Wondering how can I get a better deal.

Any discounts etc. I can get on P-AT/CT/4WD in NCR?

This is the quotation I received from dealer