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Old 12th March 2024, 13:21   #1951
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- Silly question maybe but what's the method to open the Boot / Tailgate when inside the Car, as i think there is no Boot Release Lever inside the Car? Asking in scenarios when Security needs to open the Boot for checking in Malls.
Just click the door open button. All doors open as also the boot. There is no separate button/ lever for boot opening.
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Old 12th March 2024, 13:30   #1952
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- Had an observation related to Auto-Hold and ISG function. When i stop at a signal and depress the Brake, Auto Hold gets activated and ISG turns off the Engine. This is when in D Mode. Now, if i move the Stick to N if the signal wait time is too long, the Engine turns back On. Which kind of defeats the purpose. Is this standard behavior?

- Silly question maybe but what's the method to open the Boot / Tailgate when inside the Car, as i think there is no Boot Release Lever inside the Car? Asking in scenarios when Security needs to open the Boot for checking in Malls.
Not sure about the ISG as don't have much experience with it, but it does sound strange if shifting to N fires up the engine. Although I'm certain that it has nothing to do with auto hold.

Yes, there is no boot release button inside the car. You will have to unlock the car and let security open the boot from outside (using the request button on the boot).
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Old 12th March 2024, 13:37   #1953
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- Had an observation related to Auto-Hold and ISG function. When i stop at a signal and depress the Brake, Auto Hold gets activated and ISG turns off the Engine. This is when in D Mode. Now, if i move the Stick to N if the signal wait time is too long, the Engine turns back On. Which kind of defeats the purpose. Is this standard behavior?
You need not shift to N though if ISG has kicked in. Since the car is off, there is no load on the gearbox. Once the car turns ON again (if you have AC turned on and it's hot outside, car turns on again ) at that moment you can shift to N. This is what I follow.
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Old 12th March 2024, 16:05   #1954
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- Had an observation related to Auto-Hold and ISG function. When i stop at a signal and depress the Brake, Auto Hold gets activated and ISG turns off the Engine. This is when in D Mode. Now, if i move the Stick to N if the signal wait time is too long, the Engine turns back On. Which kind of defeats the purpose. Is this standard behavior?

- Silly question maybe but what's the method to open the Boot / Tailgate when inside the Car, as i think there is no Boot Release Lever inside the Car? Asking in scenarios when Security needs to open the Boot for checking in Malls.

The first time I was asked to open the boot by a guard, I too was searching for a lever, but eventually used the key to open the boot by pressing unlock button.

As for ISG, I think its a standard behavior(happens to me too), don't know the reason.
Do you depress the break pedal again when shifting from "D" to "N" OR directly shifts it?

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Our beloved Seltos' sales have dipped due to the new Creta:

https://www.rushlane.com/compact-suv...-12490184.html

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IMHO, Seltos has a different fanbase, feels more premium too and obviously the better exterior and interior aesthetics !!

Would you have chosen the Creta FL over Seltos FL?
Another contributing factor is Kia's decision to exclusively offer the X line in matte paint. Throw in a selective range of colors that align with the X line's ethos, and the sales figures will increase. Just like Hyundai's approach with its N line. Can't imagine how many potential buyers opt against the X line due to the limited color choices.

Even better - introduce light color interiors on the GT line! Or at least introduce another GT line variant with light interior, and parallelly cater to the audience who likes all black interiors. A win-win for everyone.
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Do you depress the break pedal again when shifting from "D" to "N" OR directly shifts it?
Initially, i used to depress the Brake before shifting, but after i realized we can shift from D to N and vice versa without depressing the Brake, i no longer do it.
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Even better - introduce light color interiors on the GT line! Or at least introduce another GT line variant with light interior, and parallelly cater to the audience who likes all black interiors. A win-win for everyone.
Agree to this. A Pewter Olive Seltos with Sage Green Interiors would have been a perfect match and would have had a lot of takers.
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Initially, i used to depress the Brake before shifting, but after i realized we can shift from D to N and vice versa without depressing the Brake, i no longer do it.

I don't remember exactly but I read somewhere in their Pdf manual that when ISG switch off the engine, then if you depress the break pedal again and shift to "N", then it might not start the engine, as depressing the break pedal will keep ISG activated.
I have not tried testing if this works. I just do like everyone conveyed here, that is, keep in "D" and if car switches on due to AC, then shift to "N".
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Not sure about the ISG as don't have much experience with it, but it does sound strange if shifting to N fires up the engine. Although I'm certain that it has nothing to do with auto hold.
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You need not shift to N though if ISG has kicked in. Since the car is off, there is no load on the gearbox. Once the car turns ON again (if you have AC turned on and it's hot outside, car turns on again ) at that moment you can shift to N. This is what I follow.
As 07CR has rightly mentioned, once the ISG turns off the car, there is no need to shift to N. And I guess the design is such that the moment you take any action, like moving from D to N, the ECU I guess reads your intention and turns on the car, so that you can take your desired action.

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Yes, there is no boot release button inside the car. You will have to unlock the car and let security open the boot from outside (using the request button on the boot).
Happened to me as well during my first drive to a mall. I was desperately looking for the lever for over 3-4 mins and the other cars behind me were loosing their cool. .. finally the guard came to my rescue and asked me to unlock the car. And it worked.

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The first time I was asked to open the boot by a guard, I too was searching for a lever, but eventually used the key to open the boot by pressing unlock button.

Another, and probably easier, way would be to unlock the car from the lock/unlock button on the door. Easier because sometimes the key would be in our pocket and it may be a hassle to unbelt, reach for it while sitting etc.
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As 07CR has rightly mentioned, once the ISG turns off the car, there is no need to shift to N. And I guess the design is such that the moment you take any action, like moving from D to N, the ECU I guess reads your intention and turns on the car, so that you can take your desired action.
Thank you. Possibly a noob question - does ISG switch off the AC also (I'm assuming yes it as it turns off the engine and running the AC without the engine will be bad)?

If yes, it's a no go for us as you need AC running full time during scorching Delhi's summers . In that case, I think I would prefer to move to N with auto hold with ISG being switched off. But in case the ISG keeps the AC on (perhaps for a few minutes?), then it's incredibly convenient since you won't need to switch to N every time, all while being concerned about the transmission.
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Thank you. Possibly a noob question - does ISG switch off the AC also (I'm assuming yes it as it turns off the engine and running the AC without the engine will be bad)?
ISG does not switch off anything, your AC, your infotainment system etc. continue to work as before. If the system detects that battery level is going down, it switches on the engine on its own. It is smart.
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If the system detects that battery level is going down, it switches on the engine on its own. It is smart.
Here is the list of scenarios/conditions when the ISG will operate and when it will deactivate.


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Hope this answers your question @ Col Mehta.
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Atleast in Sonet, I see that AC gets shutoff sometimes and sometimes cooling is very less during ISG, but it also turns the engine back on again and AC comes back again, this is my observation.
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ISG does not switch off anything, your AC, your infotainment system etc. continue to work as before. If the system detects that battery level is going down, it switches on the engine on its own. It is smart.
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Here is the list of scenarios/conditions when the ISG will operate and when it will deactivate.


Hope this answers your question @ Col Mehta.
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Atleast in Sonet, I see that AC gets shutoff sometimes and sometimes cooling is very less during ISG, but it also turns the engine back on again and AC comes back again, this is my observation.
Thank you all - very helpful.
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For all those struggling with speaker grill reflection on the windshield - I have accidentally discovered a workaround - use polarized sunglasses.
Congrats on your new ride and wishing you many happy miles with it. I got the GT line recently as well and the speaker grill reflection was bothering me a bit. I was wondering how to tackle this and Wow!! the polarized sunglass idea works great. No more distracting reflection on the windshield. Thanks for pointing it out and I am sure it will be useful for many of us .
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