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Old 10th March 2024, 19:42   #1936
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Got the stereo upgraded in my x line.dct petrol version .the front and rear used was rainbow.germanium.series. got a jl.10.inch enclosed subwoofer powered by a separate 600 watt JL amplifier. For the rest of the speakers used a d series JL AMPLIFIER and audison bit ten dsp . The results are quite good with two layer damping
Seems a great setup. Congratulations and enjoy the audio effects.

I am somewhat of an audiophile too (my immediate last system was an 18 speaker Mark Levinson in my Lexus LX570) but nowbin India I drive my Xline very sparingly on weekends. I was in two minds on spending for an audio upgrade with my limited expisure. I had some time today and played high quality Spotify sountracks covering the entire spectrum from super tweeter frequencies (20K) to 20dB bass and was shockingly surprised at the good performance of the Bose setup. A fellow BHPian had mentioned that once the onboard amplifier (tucked into the subwoofer space) burns in, the performance would improve and Lo! it actually performed well for the paper coned Bose setup. Post damping, I assume that the system should sound even better and I think it would suffice my limited listening time.

Has anyone experienced this phenomena? I only keep hearing of Audio upgrade but mostly for the lower versions and some for the Bose too. Not sure if the Xline has better speakers installed.
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Old 10th March 2024, 22:17   #1937
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Completed 1 month of Ownership today with my Hulk, read GT-Line. ODO currently stands at 498 Kms. Minimal running so far. Have just done 1 Fuel Fill-up, measured Auto cut-off to Auto cut-off and it yielded 10 kmpl as the 1st Mileage figure with approx. 70% City and 30% Highway running. Have mostly run in Normal Mode and some Eco Mode. Not used Sport Mode yet.

Seltos feels like a huge Upgrade coming from my earlier Ritz and it Rocks in all departments... be it the Super smooth refined Engine, the seamless DCT Transmission, the Classy and Luxurious Interiors, and all the ADAS Features which work like a charm as expected. Most importantly, my left leg is thanking me everyday for not having to deal with the Clutch.

Though my right leg is still complaining a bit with slight pain around the Knee cap area, while i still try to find my optimum seating position. As i used to sit lower in the Ritz and was used to it, if i set the Seat Height on my Seltos all the way up to give the best bonnet / road view, it is causing some pain. Or I dont know if it is due to the angle / height difference between the Floor and A/B Pedals that is causing some strain. Did not anticipate this lingering issue though as a comfortable Seating Position is Critical. Anyone faced similar issues while transitioning from a smaller Hatch to a C-SUV? Hoping to overcome this issue and make peace with it soon as i am looking forward to munch a lot of miles.

Will be getting the 1st Service Check-up done in the next week. Quick question for those who purchased only the Extended Warranty and not MCP Package. I see 2 options for 5 Yrs EW at 19k for upto 120,000 Kms coverage and 24k for Unlimited Kms coverage. 1.2L Kms is a lot of Kms to cover in 5 Yrs and i feel that should suffice and it is also 5k cheaper than the Unlimited Kms one. Which one have the existing owners opted for?
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Old 11th March 2024, 06:26   #1938
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Though my right leg is still complaining a bit with slight pain around the Knee cap area, while i still try to find my optimum seating position. As i used to sit lower in the Ritz and was used to it, if i set the Seat Height on my Seltos all the way up to give the best bonnet / road view, it is causing some pain. Or I dont know if it is due to the angle / height difference between the Floor and A/B Pedals that is causing some strain. Did not anticipate this lingering issue though as a comfortable Seating Position is Critical. Anyone faced similar issues while transitioning from a smaller Hatch to a C-SUV? Hoping to overcome this issue and make peace with it soon as i am looking forward to munch a lot of miles.

Will be getting the 1st Service Check-up done in the next week. Quick question for those who purchased only the Extended Warranty and not MCP Package. I see 2 options for 5 Yrs EW at 19k for upto 120,000 Kms coverage and 24k for Unlimited Kms coverage. 1.2L Kms is a lot of Kms to cover in 5 Yrs and i feel that should suffice and it is also 5k cheaper than the Unlimited Kms one. Which one have the existing owners opted for?
Did you try adjusting the under-thigh support a little lower? Depending on how high and far you sit from the A and B pedals, your right leg will have to stretch to use them that can result in strain. I had a similar experience with our Creta and later realized the under-thigh support was set too high causing discomfort and lowering it down worked almost immediately.

WRT the EW, unless your running is a lot, 1.2 lakh kms for 5 years should suffice.

Wish you many more happy miles with your new car.
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Old 11th March 2024, 12:49   #1939
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Though my right leg is still complaining a bit with slight pain around the Knee cap area, while i still try to find my optimum seating position.

I see 2 options for 5 Yrs EW at 19k for upto 120,000 Kms coverage and 24k for Unlimited Kms coverage. 1.2L Kms is a lot of Kms to cover in 5 Yrs and i feel that should suffice and it is also 5k cheaper than the Unlimited Kms one. Which one have the existing owners opted for?
Your right leg is doing the same work as in Ritz. Just move the seat forward and lower the front cushion and you should be ok. If not check with an orthopaedic, it may have nothing to do with your driving.

1.2 lakh kms in 5 years means 24 thousand kms in an year. This is a lot for an average person. Go in for this.
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Old 11th March 2024, 13:23   #1940
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Our beloved Seltos' sales have dipped due to the new Creta:

https://www.rushlane.com/compact-suv...-12490184.html

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IMHO, Seltos has a different fanbase, feels more premium too and obviously the better exterior and interior aesthetics !!

Would you have chosen the Creta FL over Seltos FL?

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Old 11th March 2024, 14:07   #1941
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Our beloved Seltos' sales have dipped due to the new Creta:

https://www.rushlane.com/compact-suv...-12490184.html

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IMHO, Seltos has a different fanbase, feels more premium too and obviously the better exterior and interior aesthetics !!

Would you have chosen the Creta FL over Seltos FL?
I feel the edge Creta has over the Seltos is Creta is offering 1.5 NA Petrol with both MT and AT transmissions even in the top model, whereas Seltos offers only Turbo Petrol with DCT. There are a lot of first time buyers and people who are upgrading a segment above who don't feel the need of turbo petrol and still want all the features.
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Old 11th March 2024, 14:32   #1942
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I feel the edge Creta has over the Seltos is Creta is offering 1.5 NA Petrol with both MT and AT transmissions even in the top model, whereas Seltos offers only Turbo Petrol with DCT.
Another disadvantage for Seltos could be black interiors with roofline also being blacked out too. Many people don't like black interiors.
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Old 11th March 2024, 15:42   #1943
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Completed 1 month of Ownership today with my
Will be getting the 1st Service Check-up done in the next week. Quick question for those who purchased only the Extended Warranty and not MCP Package. I see 2 options for 5 Yrs EW at 19k for upto 120,000 Kms coverage and 24k for Unlimited Kms coverage. 1.2L Kms is a lot of Kms to cover in 5 Yrs and i feel that should suffice and it is also 5k cheaper than the Unlimited Kms one. Which one have the existing owners opted for?
It depends on your usage. I run almost 80Kms daily and it made sense for me to take the unlimited Kms. Also there are many exclusions to the warranty, the most notable being the Audio unit which is covered only for 2 years (Even the catalytic converter is excluded).
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I feel the edge Creta has over the Seltos is Creta is offering 1.5 NA Petrol with both MT and AT transmissions even in the top model, whereas Seltos offers only Turbo Petrol with DCT. There are a lot of first time buyers and people who are upgrading a segment above who don't feel the need of turbo petrol and still want all the features.
Thats convinience and flexibility of offerings to the consumers. I believe, KIA will eventually offer similar flexibility in future.
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Old 11th March 2024, 16:07   #1945
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Another disadvantage for Seltos could be black interiors with roofline also being blacked out too. Many people don't like black interiors.
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100% concur with the all - black interiors and that unnecessary black roof liner

Some more - The overall space management in the Creta is relatively better than the Seltos. I have personally experienced this even in the pre-FL models.

The rear seating is slightly comfier in the Creta.

Creta has relatively better window area which also helps to bring in more light , adding to the airer feel.

Creta rides better too. Thanks to the softer suspension + 17" wheels.
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Has anyone experienced this phenomena? I only keep hearing of Audio upgrade but mostly for the lower versions and some for the Bose too. Not sure if the Xline has better speakers installed.
The Bose setup in the seltos is good in mids and highs. The Bass when adjusted in the settings does sound good with certain tracks, esply when you use streaming or digital music.

Havent tried a FLAC on a usb stick, but the difference between radio and any streaming app is evident. The Tuners output and/or the amps ability to upscale seems to be bad. This is not typical bose which is usually excellent in signal processing. "Mild noise reduction" for radio is set by default, you could probably switch to orginal sound (Radio noise control setting) and see if its better for you.
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Old 11th March 2024, 18:21   #1947
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Past 3.5 Kms have been an excellent experience on my Seltos GT Line DCT. NVH, space, acceleration, equipment, ADAS all has been spectacular experience so far.

My only grouse was with headlights of the car. For a car costing this much, headlight intensity surely had a huge scope of improvement. I also have a Sonet HTX iMT Turbo P, and I am satisfied with it's lights. I expected Seltos to be atleast similar to Sonet in terms of effectiveness, if not better.

Sonet light pic for reference.
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Trouble no more-
I came across Bhpian @Behemoth's post wherein he mentioned projector lamps with brackets are now available for Seltos. I spoke with contact provided by Behemoth, and he quoted me an outrageous 27K for 2 inch bi led projector fog lamps (Genome). I kept looking for alternatives and came across Xenon planet BI LED laser 2 inch fog lamps on my Seltos Whatsapp group. The seller was in Delhi, and agreed to ship the bracket, projectors and relay wiring. He mentioned that he would guide with fitment of the same on call and it's easy process. It was NOT!!

None of the garages (even big one's) in Pune were open to installing these. Meanwhile, I was in contact with Genome's distributor and explained him my situation. Just like other shops initially even he declined me saying they cannot install other lamps, either purchase the same from them and then install or install it from somewhere else.

Fortunately I was able to convince him and he shared me Genome's technician's number. He came and toiled for around 4-5 hours. Turns out it was an extremely tedious process. I was worried if all the ADAS/front parking sensors/Camera etc would work as intended, but the technician reassured me about it. Must say he was extremely skilled person, as he took enough precautions at each step, and did a fantastic job. Here are the results-

The projectors
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Low beam of only fog lamps-
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Low beam of headlamps + Fog lamps-
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Low beam and high beam of all lamps-
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Total Cost=
Lamps+Brackets+Relay+Delivery = 14500
Technician's installation fee = 4000 ( I paid him 500 extra considering his efforts)

Note- Goes without saying, the high beam can be a huge nuisance for oncoming traffic, and I plan to use it only when necessary.
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@07CR - Thanks for the heads up. Surely a boost for night driving. I am not keen on the frequent use of high beam (which seems to be the norm in Kolkata even for city driving) but prefer a powerful low beam. Just wondering if this modification can affect the warranty in any way?
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. I am not keen on the frequent use of high beam (which seems to be the norm in Kolkata even for city driving) but prefer a powerful low beam. Just wondering if this modification can affect the warranty in any way?
The technician mentioned that he has used a coupler and therefore there should not be any issues with warranty. I am not sure about it though. Anyways, I was not concerned with electrical warranty hence gave the go ahead.

If you only want power low beam, you can connect these with just the fog lamps and not tap the high low beam. This way the lasers and the high beam won't work for you but the low beam will. This is more safe from warranty standpoint.
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- Had an observation related to Auto-Hold and ISG function. When i stop at a signal and depress the Brake, Auto Hold gets activated and ISG turns off the Engine. This is when in D Mode. Now, if i move the Stick to N if the signal wait time is too long, the Engine turns back On. Which kind of defeats the purpose. Is this standard behavior?

- Silly question maybe but what's the method to open the Boot / Tailgate when inside the Car, as i think there is no Boot Release Lever inside the Car? Asking in scenarios when Security needs to open the Boot for checking in Malls.

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Your right leg is doing the same work as in Ritz. Just move the seat forward and lower the front cushion and you should be ok. If not check with an orthopaedic, it may have nothing to do with your driving.
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Did you try adjusting the under-thigh support a little lower? Depending on how high and far you sit from the A and B pedals, your right leg will have to stretch to use them that can result in strain.
Thank you both. Am trying now with moving the seat a bit ahead and set the under-thigh support near the lowest setting. Also, a good reason and reminder to get the Health Check-up done to check all Vitamins and Uric Acid Levels.
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