Hi All,
This is my first thread here and I need some inputs to clear my current predicament of which driver's car to buy within 15 Lakhs. I own a 4.5 year old Ford Fusion 1.6 (2008 Model), a Honda CBR250R and am looking for a second car which should be an upgrade from the Fusion in terms of performance, handling, driving experience and better interiors. Overall I feel that the Indian consumer doesn't really have much options with my set of requirements but some of my detailed requirements are in here:
1. As I stated earlier, the car should feel like a proper upgrade.
2. A sedan because there aren't many choices among SUVs in this price bracket.
3. I have a budget of 14-15 lakhs and my monthly running doesn't need a diesel. After months of dilly-dallying I have decided to buy a car finally. Was thinking of a budget of around 10 lakhs but there is nothing in that price bracket which would have felt like an upgrade for me and hence had to increase the budget.
4. Has to be a Manual.
5. Safety is of paramount importance (the more the merrier).
6. We have ruled out Used Cars though we understand how it makes sense financially. Thanks to living in Gurgaon for over 5 years now - the land of "Soshe-baazi"!
I have shortlisted the following in order of preference:
1. Skoda Laura TSI Ambiente
2. Skoda Laura vRS.
3. Skoda Yeti 4x4 Ambiente (know it's not a Sedan but the features are astounding and drives like a car).
4. Maruti Suzuki Kizashi MT
5. Honda Civic 1.8V MT Sunroof
6. ??
Here is how the options stack against each other:
1. Skoda Laura TSI Ambiente
Advantages:
- Stonker of an engine with decent enough handling. I did feel the difference from the Fusion in terms of the Engine though I wouldn't say that the Laura handles better than the Fusion.
- Getting a wonderful deal on a 2011 Model. About 1.3 Lakhs off the On-Road price.
- Good Interiors though our 3-year old son will find the fabric seats his favorite place to leave behind handprints/footprints/etc. Skoda genuine Leatherite Seats would be a must.
- Good enough OEM ICE. A Entire HU replacement with Caska HU for Laura would be perfect.
- Service intervals of 15K or 1 year.
- Good Enough features but a TSI Elegance would have been perfect.
- Two Airbags, Good brakes, amazing european build.
Dis-advantages:
- Not much color choice. Already have a black car and have quite a few scratches done by kids to show (don't have very safe parking, live in a multi-story apartment). The two other color options are worse (White and Silver), strictly my opinion though, no offense meant.
- No Sunroof
- Skoda *** and Horror Stories. Had to mention this!!
- Some Essentials like Climate-control and Steering mounted controls missing!
Deal:
- Around 14.3 on a 2011 model with PMS thrown in. Now whats PMS is the big question. The Sales guy says its a Maintenance program for 3 years which includes everything that a regular service would require. The Customer needs to pay 10,000 and 25,000 in this case will be paid by the Dealer. I have asked the sales guy to provide me with documentation which he hasn't yet and I have my doubts whether this is something country wide or dealer specific and whether it makes any sense.
2. Skoda Laura vRS
Advantages (over the TSI):
- vRS moniker!
- Way better handler than the Ambiente
- Quite a few additions over the Ambiente
- Better choice of colors (my choice "Race Blue")
- Plus all the above advantages from the Laura Ambiente.
- Sunroof
Dis-advantages:
- Some Essentials like Climate-control and Steering mounted controls still missing
- No discounts says the sales person but I don't really believe him.
Deal:
Haven't yet discussed commercials with the sales person as he had said no discounts the first time itself. And it would be quite a budget stretch for me without any discounts.
3. Skoda Yeti 4X4 Ambiente.
Advantages:
- Diesel
- Good Handling, drives like a car.
- Amazing interiors
- Feature packed.
Dis-advantages:
- Too similar to the Fusion in terms of driving and size and costs 2.5-3X as much.
- Not a very comfortable rear seat.
Deal: Getting a 1.2Lakhs off on a 2012 model and 1.8 Lakhs on a 2011 model on the Ambiente trim. A bit more for the Elegance.
I test drove and figured out that it is not much larger than the Fusion with a similar driving position and similar size. I was immediately at home in the Yeti but figured that since we want to retain the Fusion we don't want to end up with two similar cars. Also, there would be times when we would be in the back seat with the driver driving the car, the rear seat isn't a very comfortable place to be compared to a sedan.
4. Maruti Suzuki Kizashi:
Advantages:
- Big and sporty
- 2.4L Engine
- Enough features
- Good Ground clearance and 17" wheels
- Suzuki ***
- Japanese Reliability
Disadvantages:
- Low fuel economy
I am not really concerned about brand snob value but the fuel economy is a killer plus you get almost everything in the Laura at a lesser price. I haven't yet TDed the Kizashi due to lack of time so everything is hearsay till now.
Deal: The dealer is giving a 1.4 Lakh discount but the sales person (in fact the assistant manager of sales at the dealer handles queries about the Kizashi) mentioned that he can speak to the manufacturer and see what can be done.
5. Civic MT
Advantages:
- Quite feature rich and comes with sunroof (again)!
- Getting a Touch-screen Multimedia system as a freebie.
- Sporty
- Japanese Reliability
Dis-advantages:
- Too many civics around
- A bit dated though the interiors are still quite good.
- Almost end of life and the current model is an older one internationally
- A weaker engine compared to the Laura.
Gurus and current Laura TSI/vRS owners, I am more inclined towards the Laura and I see from the recent ownership threads that *** has improved significantly though sometimes dealers attitude of ripping off customers during repairs, etc don't inspire too much confidence.
It would be great if you folks can provide your inputs and also if you have heard discounts being offered on the vRS. I would love if I was able to fit the vRS somehow in my budget!!
Thanks,
Animesh