[ECM]

Dear Roamingrao
Calling my physician...
And he is asking about weight of your brother.Today night I shall put my physician on my chair and he will reply to your query,needless to say he will become a member of forum from tonite onwards.

[Tejas@perioimpl]

Originally Posted by ECM

Oh Voveran!!This pain killer has a major side effect which ends in a renal failure,becareful brother.

Please don't cause panic. Sustained high dose daily use over a year MAY result in renal issues, not failure. i'm sure the doctor who has prescribed knows about it. If it were absolutely bad, it would have been banned the world over.

@aaggoswami: relax, you are just 22 and seem to be fine read. Exercise and eat right is more than enough. Please don't turn into a hypochrondriac (a person who is always scared that he has some disease or the other)

@roamingrao: sometimes corns take 3-4 months to heal, be patient, give the foot a rest, follow doctors advice, or take a second opinion. Please no rural meds.

@ECm: i don't mind at all, it's a pleasure to help out.

And to all: let's not turn this thread into debate between doctors and quacks.

[ECM]

Not atall Tejas but most of times patients keep taking those medicines which doctors prescribed earlier and take like in gujarati terms "eating like chana",patients are not aware of such drugs which in long run cause troubles.I have seen many people who take Voveran for joint pains without counsalting doctors and in long run it becomes a cause for renal troubles.

Please don't cause panic.

Few links for reading purpose for members.
WikiAnswers - What are the side effects of using Voveran Painkillers and what are its alternatives
What precautions should I take for chronic renal failure? - Kidney - DoctorNDTV
The Hindu : Epidemic proportions

Increased consumption of painkillers is another cause. Several medications (like Brufen and Voveran) are available without prescription. Regular use of these can cause kidney damage even in healthy individuals. In the elderly and those with mild kidney disease, even a few tablets can precipitate severe renal failure.

[ECM]

Roamingrao
I showed data of patient to my physician and what I am being told is
*Go and meet your doctor and tell him that BS is out of control,PPBS 320 is a matter of worry.
*If his BS not comming down with the current dose and inview with the corn problem your doctor MAY switch him on Insulin to bring BS down,my physician said that it is impossible for him to give any "tips"without sitting infront of a patient.He said of switching to insulin after seeing his BS and corn problem and told me with a clear cut message that tell your friend to meet a good doctor in B'lore first,show him all case history and act on his advise and not what I wrote here....
*Do carry out HBA1C for your brother and present it infront of your physician.
*All above should be done asap as your brother is already running with a high BS and having Corn problem.
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If you need any info send me a PM.Wishing a speedy recovery for your brother.

[Tejas@perioimpl]

To add to ECM's previous post. Check if his oral hygiene is bad and if he has gum disease. Patients give gum (periodontal) disease have atleast 50pts more sugar and need more insulin to control. Also people with diabetes have more chances of progression of gum disease. So its a vicious cycle and needs to be broken. A small round of periodontal prophylaxis will see an immediate drop in BS levels, providing ofcourse he had gum problems.

[rkg]

1. Diabetes is due to improper functioning of Pancreas. not due to excess sugar or carb in food.
2. excess sugar and carb in food are to be taken care only after one is diagnosed as diabetic.
3. asking kids to stop taking sweets so that they will be free of diabetes in future is wrong. it may actually work in opposite when the need actually arises , because pancreas gland is not properly used as the guy is taking restricted carb. ( disuse atrophy)

it is like not using a car for long like a year or so and suddenly trying to use it.

When blood sugar is high, message will go to brain - to- pancreas to release more of Insulin to pull out the excess glucose from blood. if Blood glucose is low or less than minimum level( around 100) less or no insulin is secreted. when pancreas cannot secrete enough insuling consistently it is called diabetes.

Heridity plays a major role in the incidence of diabetes. person with no history of the disease in the family has lesser chance than the person with such history .

[ECM]

1.True but read as higher BS due to excess card and sugar,here we talk diabetes.
2.No,I don't agree,why to consume more or excess carb or sugar into our tummy?Depending on person's height/weight all should take fix amount of calorie carb intake,what ever we take xtra is harmful and result is visible on tummy!
3.Start creating an awareness,our kids love junk foods everything is good if taken under limits but not beyond it.Pencreas gland has nothing do with less or more carb or sugar,it either function or not function in case of Kids,for adult or T2 patients diabetes occurs due to non efficiency of Insulin due to various reasons and overweight factor(fat) is one of them.
Tejas am I right?

1. Diabetes is due to improper functioning of Pancreas. not due to excess sugar or carb in food.
2. excess sugar and carb in food are to be taken care only after one is diagnosed as diabetic.
3. asking kids to stop taking sweets so that they will be free of diabetes in future is wrong. it may actually work in opposite when the need actually arises , because pancreas gland is not properly used as the guy is taking restricted carb. ( disuse atrophy)

[condor]

@rkg, I would say disuse / atrophy of the pancreas is going too far. Anything that you eat will contribute to blood sugar (levels). Some foods do contribute more, so need to keep a watch on these foods.

[Tejas@perioimpl]

Diabetes is caused in too very simple ways: either less insulin is being produced by the body or the insulin that is produced sufficiently, is not acting on the sugar for a variety of reasons.

Do not get into causes of diabetes and treatment modalities please. I have 5 textbooks only dealing with diabetes and they too aren't conclusive.

Just keep it simple: healthy balanced diets are good for diabetics and non diabetics alike.

[condor]

Tejas : Just keep it simple: healthy balanced diets are good for diabetics and non diabetics alike.

That's the one common point that every one can follow. Like Tejas said, the causes will be different. The treatment for one person does not have to and will not work for another person.

The various medicines that are around work in different ways, and your physician is the one who can help you settle on a combination that will work for you.

[ECM]

Rightly said Condor and that is why we discuss this system disorder here and try to create awareness,Diabetes is complex type in nature for different patients as far as treatment goes(specially in T1 patients in which many patients have different isulin dose)inspite of becoming a "shikar of diabetes" nothing is visible on the face of a person (or visible to others) having diabetes,that is why it is also known as silent killer.

[ECM]

Some latest trials on Diabetes
http://www.faustmanlab.org/News/Faus...08_updates.pdf

Possible cure for Diabetes,interview video
Dr. Faustman on Diabetes Cure Trial - David & Elizabeth Edelman

[condor]

OT: but related.

Have a Johnson & Johnson OneTouch Horizon meter at home. This model does not have a replaceable battery, so need to send it back to J&J when the battery runs out. The unit has a lifetime warranty, so not really a problem. Replacement is FOC.

After a recent hospitalization, my dad was asked to check his sugar 3 times a day. Found that the unit was dead, and called J&J's helpline. When I told them about the requirement, they sent out a replacement unit by over-night delivery, without even waiting for me to send the faulty unit to them. No charges, no questions.

Definitely appreciated J&J's customer service.

Only suggestion to all - incl J&J : pls get models with replaceable batteries. It's more convinient.

[ECM]

Condor
I use Optium and other brand whose name I forgot,it is always worth to buy a gluco meter and keep testing sugar atleast once in a month,better to check after 2 hrs after lunch or dinner.I have seen many people eat less or skip some items in meal when they are suppose to check their BS hence random check can be done and this too give us fair idea of our BS.Most of testing meter generally cost Rs.1200-1500 with 10 or 20 stips free.Do get one and use it often,very nice advise from Condor,thanks.

[ECM]

Never give up coz you are not alone.Here is a list of famous personalities who are/were diabetic.Why I am posting these names coz recent economic situation bringing lot of stress a major cause n catalyst for T2 diabetes.
Actors/Directors

• Jack Benny, '50s television host
• Halle Berry
• Wilford Brimley, of television and films, "Cocoon" and "The Firm"
• Delta Burke, of television's "Designing Women"
• James Cagney, producer, director and actor
• Nell Carter, of the television show "Gimme a Break"
• Dale Evans, actress, singer and wife of Roy Rogers
• Stephen Furst, actor on the television shows "St. Elsewhere" and "Babylon 5"
• Jackie Gleason, funny star of "The Honeymooners"
• Gordon Jump, actor on "WKRP in Cincinnati"
• Mabel King, actress who played Mama on "What's Happening"
• Marcello Mastroianni, actor who appeared in 142 films
• Jerry Mathers, actor of "Leave It To Beaver" fame
• Mary Tyler Moore, actress and star of "The Mary Tyler Moore Show". Read her Larry King interview where she discusses her experience with diabetes.
• Richard Mulligan, actor on the television show "Empty Nest"
• Minnie Pearl, entertainer, actress on the variety show "Hee Haw"
• Aida Turturro, plays Tony's sister on the Sopranos
• Ehster Rolle, actress on the TV Show "Good Times"
• George C. Scott, Academy Award-winning actor
• Jean Smart, actress on "Designing Women"
• Kate Smith, singer, actress who sang "God Bless America"
• Spencer Tracy, famous leading man of Hollywood movies
• Mae West, actress
• Jane Wyman, actress on "Falcon Crest"

Political Leaders

• Rania Al-Abdullah, Queen of Jordan
• Yuri Andropov, former premier of Soviet Union
• Menachem Begin, Israeli prime minister
• Lucille B. Chapman, a five-time Menominee Indian tribal chairwoman
• James Farmer, civil rights pioneer
• Mikhail Gorbachev, former Soviet premier
• Janet Jagan, president of Guyana
• Fiorello LaGuardia, New York mayor and the airport's namesake
• Winnie Mandela, South African anti-apartheid leader
• Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the infamous Chilean dictator
• Anwar Sadat, Egyptian leader
• Mike Huckabee, Republican Presidential Hopeful

Business Leaders

• James Conkling, founder of The National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences
• Bill and John Davidson, heads of Harley Davidson motorcycles
• Tom Foster, former head of Foster Poultry Farms
• W.L. Gherra, of Payless Drugs
• Howard Hughes, industrialist
• Ray Kroc, founder of McDonald's fast food restaurants

Musicians

• Nat Adderley, jazz trumpeter
• Ray Anderson, jazz trombonist
• Hoyt Axton, folksy baritone, songwriter and actor
• Syd Barrett, of the rock group Pink Floyd
• Johnny Cash, legendary country singer, known as "the man in black"
• Carol Channing, Tony Award-winning singer/actress in "Hello Dolly"
• Mark Collie, contemporary country star
• David Crosby, member of The Byrds and Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
• Miles Davis, legendary jazz great
• Freddy Fender, actor and country singer
• Ella Fitzgerald, jazz vocalist
• Mick Fleetwood, singer in rock band Fleetwood Mac
• Jerry Garcia, lead singer of The Grateful Dead
• Dizzy Gillespie, jazz trumpeter
• Mahalia Jackson, singer
• Waylon Jennings, country singer
• B.B. King, rhythm and blues star
• Patti LaBelle, pop singer
• Peggy Lee, '50s songster
• Tommy Lee, of heavy metal band Motley Crue
• Andrew Lloyd Webber, Broadway composer
• Meat Loaf, singer
• Bret Michaels, lead singer of the rock group Poison
• The Pump Girls
• Elvis Presley
• Brad Wilk, member of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave

Scientists

• Morris Braunstein, scientist
• Thomas Edison, inventor
• Albert Ellis, psychologist, rational emotive therapy
• Cynthia Ice, developer of Lotus software
• George Minot, first person with diabetes to receive Nobel Prize in medicine
• Lois Jovanovic-Peterson, scientist, endocrinologist, author of "Diabetic Women"

Sports

• Wasim Akram, Pakistani cricket star played from 1984-2002
• Arthur Ashe, tennis legend
• Walter Barnes, former Philadelphia Eagle turned actor
• Ayden Byle, runner
• Bobby Clarke, hockey player for the Philadelphia Flyers
• Ty Cobb, baseball player for the Detroit Tigers
• Scott Coleman, first man with diabetes to swim the English Channel
• Buster Douglas, boxer
• Kenny Duckett, football player for the New Orleans Saints
• Chris Dudley, New York Knicks basketball player
• Del Ennis, baseball player
• Curt Frasier, hockey player for the Chicago Black Hawks
• Bill Gullickson, pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds
• Gary Hall, Olympic gold medalist in swimming
• Jonathon Hayes, tight end for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Kansas City Chiefs
• Catfish Hunter, pitcher for the Oakland A's and the New York Yankees
• Jason Johnson, pitcher for the Baltimore Orioles
• Billie Jean King, tennis player
• Ed Kranepool, baseball player with the New York Mets
• Kelli Kuehne, LPGA golfer who wears a pump on the golf course
• Jay Leeuwenburg, offensive tackle for the Cincinnati Bengals
• Calvin Muhammed, football player for the Washington Redskins
• Steve Redgrave, 5-time Olympic gold medalist and type 1 diabetic
• Jackie Robinson, baseball star who broke the color barrier in the Major Leagues
• Sugar Ray Robinson, boxer
• Ron Santo, third basemen for the Chicago Cubs
• Art Shell, NFL player and coach
• Michael Sinclair, defensive end for the Seattle Seahawks
• Bill Talbert, hall of fame tennis player
• Scott Verplank, a golfer on the PGA tour and a member of the recent Ryder Cup team for America, is a type 1 diabetic.
• Jersey Joe Walcott, boxer
• Wade Wilson, NFL quarterback
• Bob Woolmer, cricket player and coach has type 2 diabetes

Writers/Reporters

• Richard Bartlett, film
• June Bierman, author of books on diabetes
• Fran Carpentier, editor of Parade magazine
• Sylvia Chase, ABC News Reporter
• Ernest Hemingway - 20th Century Novelist. Born on July 21, 1899, Ernest Hemingway grew up to become one of the greatest novelist of the 20th century. He wrote such works as The Sun Also Rise, 1926; A Farewell to Arms, 1929; and For Whom the Bell Tolls, 1940 just to name a few. He also received the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1954.
• Walt Kelly, animator and Disney founder
• Bruce Andrew Peters, internationally published, award-winning photojournalist
• Mario Puzo, author of "The Godfather"
• Anne Rice, "Interview With a Vampire" author
• H.G. Wells, writer, "The Invisible Man"

Last but not the least,I am one of above list of people!