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| ![]() Given volumes AWD sold I don't think it's going to get new model soon. And @Samurai summed it up nicely. |
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If your parking situation is good consider the V-cross but its length is daunting atleast to me. PS: Why the AWD over the Thar et al? .Anshuman is your man - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post3194098 PPS: For God's sake you are in/around Gurgaon. Drop by to our meets one of these days, or catch hold of .A /Ace on their Sunday morning offroading jaunts esp in these rains to get a true understanding. Last edited by phamilyman : 19th July 2016 at 11:10. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() As a happy owner of pre-worshipped Fortuner, I would gladly recommend you one! ![]() However, if I remain unbiased to my own decision, you being from Delhi, I would suggest please don't go for Fortuner if you can do nicely with an AWD Duster. Fortuner is too bulky for local commutes in chaotic Delhi traffic, lesser fuel efficient too! 10-12L will get you 2009 vintage cars which usually are abused and looking at current mood of NGT enforcements, will become obsolate for you within next 3-4 years. V-Cross and Scorpio 4WD too are well rounded options in that budget, however their sizes are XXL considering local commute (especially V-Cross, which is behemoth of a vehicle). Duster AWD is amazingly capable & underestimated by many, has relatively smaller foot print on road and is easy on sipping fuel. If you have a budget of 15L, Duster AWD would possibly be your best bet. I would have suggested you a W8 AWD XUV5OO as well, however it will shoot your budget up by another 2L, so no point getting there. Good luck with your purchase and keep us posted with your decision. ![]() PS: My Fortuner story posted here & here Last edited by Ace F355 : 19th July 2016 at 11:04. Reason: Typo! |
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![]() Thar was considered long back simply because every guy here does dream about owning a Thar but very few have the courage of making Thar their only Jeep (read Car) in the garage. I don't have the time to make such commitment right now. On the XUV, I did go through a couple of ownership threads, Anshuman's being one, but not sure what extra I'd be getting if I decide to stretch my budget by another 2 lacs, besides better road presence. Quote:
Let me ask another question now that we're all more inclined towards me buying a Duster. What's really the downside of buying a Duster? Especially, what do I stand to lose out if I don't consider the Scorpio & XUV? | ||||||
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Advantage Scorpio, a tough-as-nails ladder on frame SUV! If you venture into proper off-roading, this will have its own set of advantages. Advantage XUV, Fully loaded gadgetry, that torquey engine and (earlier mentioned) cabin space! The 2.2 mill, particularly in the XUV tune, is a gem, excellent power delivery and decent FE too. I haven't driven 1999 cc engine of XUV, so can't comment on that. Also, Once you will sit inside a XUV, it will be hard to justify space in Duster. And Duster feels spartan compared to XUV when it comes to electronic gadgets, XUV actually makes SUVs twice its cost ashamed in this department. And the gadgets are useful too! | |
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I am basically talking about 5 seater SUVs with 4WD ability, great handling and great ride comfort. If Maruti had bothered to bring Vitara S to India, it would have been fantastic, but it doesn't appear they have such plans. | |
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Thanks for this. Well, I wouldn't really venture into proper off-roading ever. Max I'd catch up with NCR folks on their Sunday off-roading adventures. I have very briefly driven the XUV (2014 model) and I agree that when it comes to space, it'd beat Duster anyday, XUV's rear seat was like a playground for me. In fact it was too much space for me. I'm 5'8" and never felt cramped even in the Swift so Duster should be enough for me. For my road trips it'd have enough space to swallow any kind of luggage I'd throw in it so the space advantage isn't really that big an advantage for me. About the electronics, I'm driving a Skoda Laura in the interim and while electronics are welcome, they become an irritant on unreliable cars, not sure how unreliable XUV electronics become after 8-10 years. I'd want to keep the Duster for 10+ years unless somebody steals this too. May be I'm old school but lesser the electronics lesser the headache for a vehicle, at least that's what I've read. I still remember my boss's XUV that I was driving had the auto-stop (or whatever its called) function On and it'd turn itself off whenever I'd stop at a signal. Never had the courage to ask him what the hell was wrong with his car but realized that it was a "feature" when I drove a BMW during one of my self-drive vacation in Europe. The only useful stuff I found in the XUV W8 was Tyre-tronics & Side & Curtain airbags (if they deploy ![]() What I've gathered from all you guys' inputs and considering my requirements I think safe to say the following - XUV W8 + Better road presence, more electronics to indulge, playground inside - 3 more lakhs, less fuel efficient Duster + Handling (biggest plus), compact yet adequate for me, better than XUV when it comes to going off-road (especially snow/mud/slush/dunes) - Poor interiors (you spend 15 lakhs for a barebone with red trims ![]() One very important question to all, which one is safer? I read that Duster got 4 in NCAP but not sure whether Indian market gets the same Duster. Quote:
For the record, I've driven a Safari (both prev & current gen), Scorpio (prev gen), Fortuner (2010/11 and it had rattles, not kidding) and XUV (2014). The 85 Duster I drove was a 2014 model with a really really hard clutch but I've read that its been taken care of for good. This video of Duster is a great demo of its handling, no words. Check out 4:50 to 6:40 | |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() @Fine69 since you are more inclined towards the Duster I thought of sharing a few of my off-roading experiences with the Duster AWD. Here are links to a few videos and threads - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...ml#post3674955 http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/travel...ndra-thar.html |
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| ![]() An update on the final price that I'm getting for Duster AWD. 14.6 lakhs on-road for a UP registered vehicle, what do you say guys, good deal? For Delhi registration I'd have to pay 35k extra |
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Well I wasn't very serious about the airbags not deploying part. ![]() Yeah, I landed on the same NCAP/testing thread that gave the XUV 4 stars. There's one more very important point that I can't seem to ignore. I basically know a Renault dealer through my brother-in-law, he has two dealerships in Ghaziabad. He's offering a very good discount on the Duster, 14.6 on-road price. There'd be absolutely no waiting period as I'd be a priority customer. Here's the breakup - Exshowroom - 135.7k UP registration - 138k Insurance - 27k (I'd be getting my own insurance though) Handling - 8.5k Basic Kit - 4.5k Total - 153.5k Discounted Price - 146k Now 146k of Duster vs 180k upwards of XUV W8, what do you guys think? Will be taking my wife along this weekend for an XUV and Duster test drive and lets see if 350k extra start to make sense to our requirements. You guys have been great help ![]() |
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But what the heck if your family feel connected to XUV, then why not! We only live once! ![]() Either way, you can't go wrong. You are welcome and looking forward to that! | |
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| ![]() As mentioned on the above posts, new model of Duster AWD looks unlikely. As per your requirement, Duster AWD fits the bill perfectly. It is comfortable for long highway runs & overcomes most obstacles. It does not have a low ratio gearbox though. That I think is the only major problem with Duster. But with a good driver, this can be handled to some extent. Having spent so much time & miles on Duster AWD, I never regret buying one. If you have any questions regarding the same. Do let me know. Regards, Pawan |
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| ![]() PapaBravo, While I too agree on the capabilities of the Duster AWD, but isn't the Scorpio S4 with 4x4 better, less priced, proper 4x4 option, 2 additional seats, more spacious, ladder on frame, etc..? Don't want to confuse anyone, but just my thoughts... Cheers ! |
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