OHC Vtec vs Baleno (both stock) - which one is faster to the ton and beyond?

IronWolf · 3rd December 2007, 13:02

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Originally Posted by rocksterraghu

I second that, without thinking twice. It should be true IMO.

I've been following this thread for quite sometime now. If the above is what we've reached, what are we trying to discuss now?

IMO we are discussing OHC 1.5 (Non-Vtec with the Bhp advantage) Vs Baleno (engine cc advantage)

I still dont have an answer to my question.

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Originally Posted by razor4077

Time to rename the thread maybe?

Agree

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Originally Posted by kaushik_s

Or probably time to close this thread

Disagree

supremeBaleno · 3rd December 2007, 13:33

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Originally Posted by chetanhanda

Whats fair in comparing a 1.5 with a 1.6 capacity engine ?

I do see your point. The Baleno surely has a 100cc advantage. But the OHC-Vtec and the OHC also have a BHP advantage over the Baleno. I am not saying these just cancel off, but given the cars available here, these kind of comparisons are inevitable.

A thread on the Ikon1.6 / Palio1.6 / Baleno1.6 would be great, but do we have enough data on their performance (tests conducted by auto-mags etc) ? Without which it would be meaningless to do a comparo.

1100D · 4th December 2007, 20:32

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

A thread on the Ikon1.6 / Palio1.6 / Baleno1.6 would be great, but do we have enough data on their performance (tests conducted by auto-mags etc) ? Without which it would be meaningless to do a comparo.

Ikon 1.6, Baleno 1.6 and the Palio 1.6 acceleration times can be found at some old issues of Autocar. Ikon's was 11.96 and more or less is in the ball park of what the company claimed. Dont know if there was a difference in the times of the pre and post NXT's. However wise handling wise the NXT's were a bit mellowed down to suit indian tastes of Ride. Its a bit slower than the Euro III Baleno, but not by much.

Whereas I still maintain, straight line acceleration is one thing, agility while maintaining a sppedy pace is another.

Moreover, we all know how much to trust the vintage overdrive. On top of that the Baleno used in the 17 car test wasn't stock (it had upsized tyres and what not, who knows).

ssjr0498 · 4th December 2007, 22:02

He he.. I am sure.. so what shall I consider this! an invitation for a drag! ;-)

[quote=BlackPearl;644374]that depends on who is driving the stock baleno... but definitely not me

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BlackPearl · 4th December 2007, 23:37

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Originally Posted by ssjr0498

He he.. I am sure.. so what shall I consider this! an invitation for a drag! ;-)

actually here is a guy in Kolkata who burns the Kolkata roads at night in a black baleno. he is a national racing champion and this year's INRC 1400cc champ. I am ready to place a bet on him

ssjr0498 · 4th December 2007, 23:43

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Originally Posted by BlackPearl

actually here is a guy in Kolkata who burns the Kolkata roads at night in a black baleno. he is a national racing champion and this year's INRC 1400cc champ. I am ready to place a bet on him

Hmm,

tiger in a sheep skin!! "ki dada amar to phetey jeto"

but honestly dada, even if the gentleman is a INRC champ there is nothing much he can do in a drag with a relatively lower performing car.

Just for the sake of it!! How much will u get out of a launch, his being perfect and mine being somewhat ok!! the Honda will compensate for that.

I have a video in which a friend of mine dragging his OHC Vtec against a Baleno was struggling to gain traction while the Baleno gained traction and was almost a car's length ahead, at the end of the 1/4th mile, the vtec still beat the baleno..

Anyway, next time I am in Kol!! how bout we meet up?

Cheers,
Shrey

vittalnrv · 4th December 2007, 23:51

Baleno and 1.5 City both are good vehicles. But production is stopped now so why still fightin over these toys. Find new toys boys, there are civics,corolla,accord,etc. I think its time to move on , these cars have reached their saturation point.

BlackPearl · 4th December 2007, 23:57

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Originally Posted by ssjr0498

Hmm,

tiger in a sheep skin!! "ki dada amar to phetey jeto"

but honestly dada, even if the gentleman is a INRC champ there is nothing much he can do in a drag with a relatively lower performing car.

Just for the sake of it!! How much will u get out of a launch, his being perfect and mine being somewhat ok!! the Honda will compensate for that..
Cheers,
Shrey

what you have said is quite true. no point in just a head to head drag, but being baleno fans we would have set up course where his driving skills would do the talking

. moreover, if its a non vtec then only a slight difference in shifts could change the results

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Anyway, next time I am in Kol!! how bout we meet up?

surely Sir, anytime PM me or any of the Kolkata tbhpians as soon as you land....

ssjr0498 · 5th December 2007, 01:03

Dada in this case I would have called upon one of the distinguished bhpian's to come to the vtec's rescue.. This guy own the vtec from the days it was launched has lived his life on the ghats. He can take corners with his eyes closed

The last time he came to the track day in Chennai,driving a frenz vtec with worn out 195's he was a full 1 second quicker than another bhpian's Baleno with 205's.

IMO and from what I have seen, be it track or the drag the vtec's have and will still outperfom the baleno.

Cheers,
Shrey

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Originally Posted by BlackPearl

but being baleno fans we would have set up course where his driving skills would do the talking

. moreover, if its a non vtec then only a slight difference in shifts could change the results

BlackPearl · 5th December 2007, 01:12

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Originally Posted by ssjr0498

Dada in this case I would have called upon one of the distinguished bhpian's to come to the vtec's rescue.. This guy own the vtec from the days it was launched has lived his life on the ghats. He can take corners with his eyes closed

The last time he came to the track day in Chennai,driving a frenz vtec with worn out 195's he was a full 1 second quicker than another bhpian's Baleno with 205's.

IMO and from what I have seen, be it track or the drag the vtec's have and will still outperfom the baleno.

Cheers,
Shrey

ok ok, no more discussions on this . we are going OT

mobike008 · 5th December 2007, 01:33

Just to add some masala to the already spiced up thread

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How would Viva CRDI Vs Baleno Vs Honda City ( non-vtec) fare? Trust me, viva crdi is no sloucher

1100D · 5th December 2007, 01:37

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Originally Posted by mobike008

How would Viva CRDI Vs Baleno Vs Honda City ( non-vtec) fare? Trust me, viva crdi is no sloucher

Oh you are so right, its a true sleeper car of sorts. Loved the grunt when I test-drove one at the time of purchasing my car. However, I happened to bust two right tyres on the test-drive as the car went into a pothole. Moreover the steering was not that precise.

However the true colors of the CRDI comes out post 130. The car accelerates from there all the way upto 180, singing merrily all the time, brilliant engine.

rocksterraghu · 5th December 2007, 01:41

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Originally Posted by mobike008

How would Viva CRDI Vs Baleno Vs Honda City ( non-vtec) fare? Trust me, viva crdi is no sloucher

Eh?

Compared to the other two, I would say it is. Sorry, but no offence meant.

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Originally Posted by IronWolf

IMO we are discussing OHC 1.5 (Non-Vtec with the Bhp advantage) Vs Baleno (engine cc advantage)