OHC Vtec vs Baleno (both stock) - which one is faster to the ton and beyond?

Shan2nu · 26th November 2007, 11:30

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Also, weight-wise, isn't the VTEC lighter?

Baleno - 975kgs
VTEC - 985kgs

Shan2nu

dhiman · 26th November 2007, 13:29

What is the 0-100 and 0-100-0 timing for a stock Non VTEC OHC 1.5?

supremeBaleno · 27th November 2007, 17:31

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Originally Posted by dhiman

What is the 0-100 and 0-100-0 timing for a stock Non VTEC OHC 1.5?

Yes, that would be good to know, given the hype around the 'vtec' - I am sure narayan would agree.

And if the figures are available, for the OHC1.3 also. BTW, what is the max power for the 1.3 and 1.5 versions of the OHC ?

BlackPearl · 27th November 2007, 17:56

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

Yes, that would be good to know, given the hype around the 'vtec' - I am sure narayan would agree.

And if the figures are available, for the OHC1.3 also. BTW, what is the max power for the 1.3 and 1.5 versions of the OHC ?

AFAIK 1.3 is 93 Bhp and 1.5 non vtec is 100 bhp. by the way, is the Baleno faster to 100 than the 1.5 non vtec?

kpzen · 27th November 2007, 17:59

I think OHC 1.3 is 90bhp.

BlackPearl · 27th November 2007, 18:09

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Originally Posted by kpzen

I think OHC 1.3 is 90bhp.

maybe, owners please confirm....

Akshay1234 · 27th November 2007, 18:43

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Originally Posted by kpzen

I think OHC 1.3 is 90bhp.

ohc 1.3 was definitely 92 or 93 bhp. the 1.5 was over a hundred i think.

aZa · 27th November 2007, 18:50

1.3L - 90Bhp
1.5L - 100Bhp
1.5L Vtec - 106Bhp

supremeBaleno · 27th November 2007, 19:01

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Originally Posted by BlackPearl

Is the Baleno faster to 100 than the 1.5 non vtec?

Nice question. Infact, even if the Baleno is not faster to the ton than the Vtec (which has 14horses more), it still would be something if it is faster than the OHC1.5 (which with the same weight has 6 more horses). So, who has the numbers for the OHC 1.5 ?

Shan2nu · 27th November 2007, 21:46

The OHC 1.5 was always overshadowed by the Vtec so not much importance has been given by auto mags to it's performance. It would be very diff to get the performance figs for this car.

I rem reading something in the region of 10.8 to 11.3 but i'm really not sure.

The top speed however is around 170kmph.

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(which with the same weight has 6 more horses)

The 1.5 and the Vtec weight the same (985kgs). So it's 10kgs heavier than the Baleno.

Shan2nu

v1p3r · 27th November 2007, 22:44

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

Nice question. Infact, even if the Baleno is not faster to the ton than the Vtec (which has 14horses more), it still would be something if it is faster than the OHC1.5 (which with the same weight has 6 more horses). So, who has the numbers for the OHC 1.5 ?

Baleno is faster than OHC 1.5 to 100, a fact confirmed by various magazines. The numbers however are, as usual, a little sketchy.

shuvc · 27th November 2007, 22:59

IIRC, the Baleno LXi weighs 975, whereas the VXi weighs 985. These were the figures when I bought mine.

IronWolf · 27th November 2007, 23:12

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Originally Posted by cyneverdie

buddy your sadly mistaken

i live in mumbai at carmichael road
9820075518 is my cell no
give me a call will take you for a spin one of these nights and prove it to you

eh? Why are we talking about the Fat Swift here? this thread clearly states Baleno and OHC Vtec

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Firstly, the Vtec is way quicker to the ton and 1/4 mile when compared to the Suzi. Also while comparing the two cars one must also keep in mind that there is a difference of 12bhp or 15bhp depending on E-II or E-III balenos. This difference is a hell lot when compared on bone stock cars. Which obviously shows in the end results.

Also one needs to consider the fact that the Vtec revvs to 7100 rpm while the Baleno revvs to 6500 or 6750 (depending on versions) minus the Vtec (which plays a significant role in the way it revvs). Plus the taller gear ratios on the Baleno doesn't always translate to better power delivery as well.

If both cars are to be measured on an even keel what one will have to do is get a higher cam profile for the Baleno to make up for the Vtec advantage, change the intake and make the Baleno revv to 7,100 as well. All this with the Vtec being stock. Only then would it be a fair comparo.
Atleast to a certain extent. Even then the Vtec would still be in a advantageous position.

I agree with Mcl... Baleno Vs OHC Vtec is not a fair comparison. The Baleno 1.6 is underpowered compared to the Vtec and does not have something called 'Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control'

What I would like to see is a Stock Baleno 91/94bhp Vs a OHC 100bhp.

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Honda 1.3L - 90Bhp
Baleno 1.6L - 91/94Bhp
Honda 1.5L - 100Bhp
Honda 1.5L Vtec - 106Bhp

Forget the 1.3L City.. what I want to know is
Baleno 1.6L - 91/94Bhp Vs Honda 1.5L - 100Bhp = ????

Also can someone post the last competitive pricing of the
Baleno Vs Vtec/non Vtec

I bought the Baleno over the City just for this... I know I was getting more More Value and Cost per Bhp with the Baleno.

manson · 27th November 2007, 23:48

AFAIK, even a stock OHC 1.5 is faster than the Baleno. Period.

manson.

BlackPearl · 27th November 2007, 23:54

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

Nice question. Infact, even if the Baleno is not faster to the ton than the Vtec (which has 14horses more), it still would be something if it is faster than the OHC1.5 (which with the same weight has 6 more horses). So, who has the numbers for the OHC 1.5 ?

yup, my thoughts are same. I would be quite happy to know that Baleno can outrun a car with 9 bhp more

26th November 2007, 13:29	#32
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27th November 2007, 17:59	#35
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,611 Thanked: 1,879 Times View My Garage	I think OHC 1.3 is 90bhp.
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27th November 2007, 18:50	#38
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	1.3L - 90Bhp 1.5L - 100Bhp 1.5L Vtec - 106Bhp
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27th November 2007, 22:59	#42
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 354 Times View My Garage	IIRC, the Baleno LXi weighs 975, whereas the VXi weighs 985. These were the figures when I bought mine.
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27th November 2007, 23:48	#44
manson Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 3,949 Thanked: 4,251 Times View My Garage	AFAIK, even a stock OHC 1.5 is faster than the Baleno. Period. manson.
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