[avingodb]

Originally Posted by Dr.Suraj

Congratulations on your Nano!

I LOVE the Nano !!! Really.

thanks a lot!
Nano is easy and fun to drive.
And yes, in Mumbai, nothing beats the ease of travelling by local trains, especially with those traffic jams and parking woes. I am originally from Mumbai and miss the Mumbai local trains badly! but yes, I miss it!

[Dr.Suraj]

Originally Posted by rajchetan

Lovely Car Doctor.

And a even more lovely report. You have actually done a complete report in every aspect.

Wishing you a long and joyful journey with the Eleganza.

Thank you!

& Thank you for the good wishes!

Originally Posted by kartikk

Congratualtions on the new asset, money very well spent, my two cents: After 10k for the oil change please move to full synthetic (if ELAN already doesnt come with it) makes a world of difference or if you have Mr M. then change oil as soon as you can. Believe me this engine grows on you and be ready you are going to travel a lot more Second is some nice Turtle/Meguair wax on the new car the paint job is superb and deserves it.

Wow - if advice could be valued - you would definitely written 'more than 2 cents'.

&
I cannot thank you enough - because I was really on the look out for a nice wax.
I intend to really take care of this fellow.
Hence no teflon & machine polish so far.

Your advice shall be heeded Sir!

Thank you!

Originally Posted by RGK

Congrats Surajji. Manza looks elegant and wonderful.
Got a real deal for my B-i-L , 2011 Manza, done 6677kms for 5.95 and it was brand new.

Had the car for two days and enjoyed the space and space. I faced two issues.
1. Gear shift was not smooth.
2. The mute button in the steering control did not work..

Got a mileage of 13km in the city with AC. I think it is pretty decent considering the size of the car. The headlights are damn good especially after driving Figo.

Happy and Safe Motoring.

Hey that is an AWESOME deal !!!

Seriously - a real gem of a pick. Even more VFM than originally given.

& you can customize it a little too (e.g. spend on a good in dash system + leather seats etc.)

Heartiest Congratulations.

& Yes FE + AC quite good.

1. Gear knob - please get it checked during a service.
2. Mute button - should be under warranty - again INSIST for it at the T.A.S.S.

Originally Posted by avingodb

thanks a lot!
Nano is easy and fun to drive.
And yes, in Mumbai, nothing beats the ease of travelling by local trains, especially with those traffic jams and parking woes. I am originally from Mumbai and miss the Mumbai local trains badly! but yes, I miss it!

Absolutely agree.

It is a USP of Mumbai in more ways than one & a really important lifeline.

But with the errant auto rick-shaw drivers & their rude behaviour ... it gets a little troublesome to travel from the station to the desired location.

Hence - the mind keeps asking - Should I buy a Nano instead

[veyron_head]

Excellent and comprehensive review Dr. Suraj! Congrats on your new ride!!

Manza looks, feels and behaves like a car two segments above it. I had a chance to do a very quick test drive when it was launched. (I loved it for everything except the 'Indigo' prefix then)

Rating this thread a well deserved 5 stars!! Drive safe!

[90BHP]

Suraj Sir, great review, great pics, great car. I am especially curious about the windshield. If the plastic in the front is easily removable, won't people be able to just open the clips & remove the windshield to get in to the car ? I am sure the alarm won't sound in that case, would it ? Don't intend to scare you but, just thought I should ask.

[Utopian]

What a review!! Your attention to detail is truly worth appreciating.
I couldn't help but remember Tanuka San. The Wine color does render it some exclusivity. It is humongous. Must be a pain during parking!!
Updates on the windshield problem??

[Dr.Suraj]

Originally Posted by veyron_head

Excellent and comprehensive review Dr. Suraj! Congrats on your new ride!!

Manza looks, feels and behaves like a car two segments above it. I had a chance to do a very quick test drive when it was launched. (I loved it for everything except the 'Indigo' prefix then)

Rating this thread a well deserved 5 stars!! Drive safe!

Thank you very much for the words & the ratings.

Indeed - definitely feels higher than priced - hence VFM.

For e.g. - it shares some similarities with a Mercedes
1. 28 degrees reclining angle of back seat
2. rear leg room of S class
3. Needles turning red when crossing the 'red' live or when overspeeding
4. Subtle centre ridge on the bonnet akin to the E-class
5. Few simple elegant chrome strips adding to the value of the car's design

Originally Posted by 90BHP

Suraj Sir, great review, great pics, great car. I am especially curious about the windshield. If the plastic in the front is easily removable, won't people be able to just open the clips & remove the windshield to get in to the car ? I am sure the alarm won't sound in that case, would it ? Don't intend to scare you but, just thought I should ask.

Thanks for the compliments.

You have a valid thought - it did cross my mind.

I wish I can show you some detailed pics - but thankfully its set in place as of now.
It's like this - there is a metal frame - the glass is set UPON it & glued & then from 4 sides - there are plastic strips on top of it. The 2 sides - it has clips. which are clipped on the metal at the base - above the winshield.
As for the top & bottom (near the engine bay) - that is quite firmly in place & is very complex to remove.
Obviously an alarm won't sound if someone removes the class - but it is NOT possible - WITHOUT breaking the glass.

The WHOLE STRIP - CANNOT BE JUST PULLED OFF. They are interlocked.

Be rest assured. The design is flawed because of it's cheap method & stupidity - but not at all 'insecure'.

Thank you once again though.

Originally Posted by Utopian

What a review!! Your attention to detail is truly worth appreciating.
I couldn't help but remember Tanuka San. The Wine color does render it some exclusivity. It is humongous. Must be a pain during parking!!
Updates on the windshield problem??

Thank you very much Mr. Utopian.

Tanuka San, really ??? BTW, the new ad is nice too.

The Tyrian Wine - is really awesome.

As for parking - yes it is humongous. No doubt. I too was skeptical from day 1.
But 2 things really smoothen it :
1. GOOD turning radius - seriously - surprises you.
2. The factory fitted reverse audio sensors & powerful reverse lamps.
(had this not been there, I would have installed a reverse parking sensor system with camera the immediate next day. Without fail).

I live in a building with very minimal parking space - I will post pics if I can - but to our surprise & amazement - the Manza manages to 'wiggle' into the same space that we used to park our Indica.
It takes us a minimum total of 3 turns to park either car.
So I guess that speaks a lot in the Manza's favour.

Rear windscreen visibility is decent too.

Update on the windshield problem:

I called up the dealership.
Next day they sent a mechanic to my home with a fresh set of clips - for the 2 plastic strips.
That solution din't work.
They told me they are ordering for a new strip.
It took 1 more day.
4th day - he was back with a new strip + new clips.
He had to change the whole strip - had to unscrew a few parts - slightly tedious task.
Done in about 25 minutes odd.
Thats it.
End of the story so far !

[SedatedDrive]

TATA needs to thank you, Dr. Suraj. And so do we.

[nevertouchme]

Congratulations on the New Car!

Originally Posted by Dr.Suraj

VW Vento

- Rear bench not the best for comfort
- performance not as good as the Fiat engine in the Dzire, Manza & Linea

I am afraid, I wouldn't buy these two facts.
VW's TDI is again one of the best available in the market now.

[Dr.Suraj]

Originally Posted by SedatedDrive

TATA needs to thank you, Dr. Suraj. And so do we.

Thank YOU !!! For such appreciation.

Your single statement has a great impact. Thank you.

Originally Posted by nevertouchme

Congratulations on the New Car!



I am afraid, I wouldn't buy these two facts.
VW's TDI is again one of the best available in the market now.

Thank you.

It's okay. I understand. It's a personal opinion.

But I did TD the Vento thrice. 3 times the diesel engine & 2 times the petrol - just to judge if it is the car or engine.

Our opinion was:
Not only is the engine noisy,
But it lacked finesse - it was sluggish from the start. It was ok beyond 50 kmph but till then not 'enjoyable'.
Though the gear box was really slick (better than Manza no doubt)
Neither was the FE as good.

Also - kindly note - I am not referring to this just viz-a-viz my Manza because I own one - I am referring to the Fiat MJD engine - which I did drive extensively in the D'zire, Linea, Vista & Manza.
Of these - only the Linea (unfortunately - since the engine is by Fiat) did not make best use of it.
D'zire & Manza - have managed the best - in terms of performance, smoothness, power balanced with FE. (That too D'zire BETTER than Manza by a small edge).

So please note, I am not just tom tomming the Manza, overall the Engine has proved to be a better & more reliable performer and hence, I guess it is the unofficial 'National' engine - being present in every other car in that segment.

On the same note - The i20 Diesel was better than the Vento. But the Verna diesel was NOT as good as the Vento.

Again, like I said earlier - this is a personal observation - reasonably subjective - and in this case is the collective opinion of about 5 people who did TD with me at different occasions.

No hard feelings.

[nevertouchme]

Originally Posted by Dr.Suraj

Also a Capdase mobile stand
&
a CaseLogic seat belt cover.

Dr. Could you post pics of these please?

[Utopian]

Originally Posted by Dr.Suraj

.......to our surprise & amazement - the Manza manages to 'wiggle' into the same space that we used to park our Indica.
It takes us a minimum total of 3 turns to park either car.
Windshield...........Done in about 25 minutes odd......

Good to see that the Windshield problem has been resolved.
Its surprising that parking is manageable. Or you have got used to it now.

[Dr.Suraj]

Originally Posted by nevertouchme

Dr. Could you post pics of these please?

Surely. My pleasure entirely
Will do that tomorrow evening.

Originally Posted by Utopian

Good to see that the Windshield problem has been resolved.
Its surprising that parking is manageable. Or you have got used to it now.

Frankly, parking never really behaved like a problem.
We were very skeptical - but day 1 my Dad managed to fit it in the same style as the Indica
& day 2 I repeated the feat.

Since then we have parked in the building about 18 times.
Outside on tricky parking spots (parallel park) about 12 times.
& twice I have done it when I was all alone - no one to guide me even a bit.

There's only that conscious realization that you are driving a new car. U don't want to scratch it, touch it.
But otherwise its not a pain at all.
But 1 thing I will admit - Sensors help tremendously.

Even if they are just audio.
Awesome.

[yogeshnaik]

Originally Posted by Dr.Suraj

Interiors - stunning & luxurious.

I liked your posting with pictures. After reading all your consolidations about the competetor cars and converge your decision to Tata Manza Elan Quadrajet Celebration Edition, it gives a lot of information to the reader including your previous posts. A great posting. Overall a very good review and was much informative.

I had earlier settled down on Wagon R Duo LXi couple of years back but considering Vista on the plate, it changed my mind. Now I own a Vista, I like Manza a lot due to space, styling and tough build preferably for long drives.

[Dr.Suraj]

Originally Posted by yogeshnaik

I liked your posting with pictures. After reading all your consolidations about the competetor cars and converge your decision to Tata Manza Elan Quadrajet Celebration Edition, it gives a lot of information to the reader including your previous posts. A great posting. Overall a very good review and was much informative.

I had earlier settled down on Wagon R Duo LXi couple of years back but considering Vista on the plate, it changed my mind. Now I own a Vista, I like Manza a lot due to space, styling and tough build preferably for long drives.

Thank you Mr. Yogesh Naik,.

Thank you indeed. Yes the point was to be able to convey everything and enable anyone reading this review to make an unbiased informed decision about their purchase in the future.

Anyone who writes a review about their own car is bound to love it

Congratulations on the Vista!
Truly a nice car - it never gives you the feel of a 'small' car , except while parking.
Really good engine and comfort.

Enjoy those lovely drives !

[Dr.Suraj]

On a separate note ...

Something I forgot to mention earlier.

An incident that happened with me on the 5th day of getting the car.

I was going towards town from the suburbs - hence chose to opt for the BWSL - Bandra-Worli Sea Link or Rajiv Gandhi Setu.

Though it is a toll road - its beautiful to drive on.

Now I am cruising on BWSL - in my 5 day old Manza with 200 kms on the odo & my parents with me at 75 kmph (since the running in period requires me not to go above 80).
As frustrating as it was - to go on this AMAZING stretch of road - at just 75 kmph ...

What was more frustrating is what happened next ...

Right in the middle of the BWSL (on a Sunday) - a cop signalled me to pull over (a few other cars as well)
and he shows me on his speed gun - that I was doing 80 kmph and the Speed Limit is 50 kmph !!!!

I tried explaining to him - that my car is brand new - I anyways cannot 'speed' and did not mean to speed either.
But to no avail.
Not only was I fined 200 Rs.
After paying - the Cop conveniently said - that they are out of receipts in their receipt book - when I insisted on a receipt - he said he will personally deliver it to me later in the week.
(Obviously never happened).

But - the worst part was the comment he made at the end :

In good english - mind you -

Sir, I challenge you 'Aai Shapath; (mother promise) that you cannot go at 50 kmph on this road.
None of us can.
If you drive at 50 kmph on this beautiful smooth road - you will feel as if you are not moving at all.
It is impossible to drive at that speed - but what can we do Sir, we have to do our duty.
(completed with a slightly sinister smile).