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Originally Posted by lifebuoy Police are police ... wherever and whenever .... mumbai or delhi or any city .. any state ! |
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Originally Posted by lifebuoy Dear Dr Suraj,
Thanks for such an in-depth and fantastic report on the Manza. I have been following this car right from its launch and have advised most of my friends to buy this car, more for its "Indian" origins .... (includes a technology absorption of the MJD) and super VFM.
One doubt -- cars are referred to in the feminine gender -- she -- her -- I see that you equate the sex ! Good ! I caught on as I have similar references too ! (The same goes for the "Jumbo").
153 Kmph is fantastic -- to reach on any Indian highway ! Believe me -- I could touch only about 120 -- told my wife I wanted to check the over-speed indicator LED on my dash ! (Indigo eCS LX). I am a TATA lover like you - and can see the wonders they have done ot the good 'ol IDI 475 to change it to the CR4 !
FE is great too ! However, I fail to understand why it is lesser that the 1396 or so cc CR4 engine in the eCS ? the MJD is a 1248 cc, 90 bhp one, maybe that explains the lesser FE, the CR4 puts out 69.5. I have achieved about 18.5 kpl from Mount Abu to Delhi (about 875 kms) done in a day - morning to evening, with A/C 100 % of the time, 5 adults and a bootful of luggage, in summer of Rajasthan - Delhi. I use only regular diesel - TATA DOES NOT RECOMMEND USE OF DIESEL ADDITIVES with this engine -- dunno why ?
I remember clicking a photo of the dials of a Corolla .. doing about 140-150 kph on the way back from Eilat .. (wife clicked them , actually ) ..
I was seriously considering upgrade from my old Indica DLE 2002 model .. to a Safari or Aria ... your report has made me think .. is driving daily to work in a hulk worth the effort ? with a 10 kpl FE ? What do bhp-ians advise ? Can I take the manza to say .. Khardungla ? Would it need an SUV or say a high GC, big vehicle ? I personally don't think so .. am ready to take my nano there too ! |
Thank you very much for your wonderful comments, astute observations.
Indeed, we share a lot of common beliefs.
Yes - Tata is unbeatable when it comes to VFM (any car across their range - except probably Aria) & ofcourse INDIAN.
They have improved in leaps & bounds. More so in the last 2 years.
The Manza is serious Class Apart.
Well, I do equate the sex - but also some cars are not 'feminine' enough to be called a 'She'.
Some are pure bred work horses.
Like I would never call a nice bulky SUV a she.
A Ferrari is a she, but a Lambo is a he.
(My Dictionary)
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Its more about the character of the car. How they drive. Both my Jumbo & Manza are HE. No doubt. The Manza's elder cousin - the Linea is a She.
I have always maintained this. Maybe because they are not swift or nimble footed by strong grunting power houses. They have no curves or smooth lines like a woman but strong bold lines, chiseled, if I may say so.
The FE - is probably also owing to the Variable Geometry Turbo in the Manza MJD. Still I have managed recently a top FE of 20.3 kmpl for a trip that spanned 326 kms. Sounds nice right? Its just too good to be true. Its actually far more luxurious & yet cheaper that the State run transport buses!
Top Speed - well. I had touched 160 kmph on my 1.4 Indica V2 petrol on the Ahmedabad - Baroda corridor in December 2010. No such stunts with my Manza so far. Maybe after it has clocked 20k kms. Lets see... But seriously it is quite a powerful beast & with a light clutch. Balances city & Highway driving both. But obviously he loves Highway drives.
As for Ground Clearance - the Manza does ride reasonably high. With individual suspension in the rear comfort is never compromised.
I don't know about Khardungla. I think SUVs are recommended there for the sheer grunt they can produce from their engines for the steep inclines & to go where there are no roads.
In the city (if you do not do a lot of off-roading) the Manza is anyday a much better option than an SUV.
Consider easier parking, better FE & slightly better managing through traffic.
Do read up other Manza owner's take.
I am quite happy with my Manza so far. In fact - LOVING it.
Thank you once again for your comments.
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Originally Posted by motomaverick Raghu the noise is quite normal, it will quieten down after 1500kms, I also felt the growl to be more than what you & me experience in a petrol car, in fact now i like the growl or snarl it makes in fact i love the diesel clatter as well. |
I second that - about loving the noise that is...
(If this is the same noise we are all talking about).
Its a masculine growl of a diesel engine & it is not rude or unruly. It is quite a nice music to the ears.
Sounds like a muscle car.
Definitely addicting !