[penlax]

Even the mechanic in the workshop who was working on my car accepted that there is harshness in the clutch of Vento TDi and replacing it with new one resolves the problem. I don't get any more jerk even if did release the clutch I use to did in beginning of ownership and overall there is tremendous difference which warrants the change.

I have the January 2012 model of the Vento TDI Highline. I have felt that the clutch on my car too is excessively heavy. And I too feel the jerks when releasing the clutch in the lower gears.
Do the recent versions of the Vento have the same clutch hose problem?
I'm just one month into my ownership and have covered just 1240 km so far.

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by penlax

I have the January 2012 model of the Vento TDI Highline. I have felt that the clutch on my car too is excessively heavy. And I too feel the jerks when releasing the clutch in the lower gears.
Do the recent versions of the Vento have the same clutch hose problem?
I'm just one month into my ownership and have covered just 1240 km so far.

Penlax, the newer version of Vento TDi should come with revised clutch hose pipe, don't know if its not the case. Try using the car for another month as clutch might ease up a bit with the initial run of the engine. If still the hard clutch problem persists, you should have it changed under warranty by bringing it to the notice of the workshop. It's initial gear changes 1-2 where I used to encounter the jerks and in bumper to bumper driving hard clutch in 1st gear really sometimes resulted in jerks which weren't appreciated by the passengers in my car. But now after replacement, no more hard clutch problem and it releases smoothly with no jerks encountered.
If you go in for replacement just confirm the part number of clutch hose pipe as 6R2721465R.

[el lobo 6061]

Owning a black color car needs more maintenance since it is a dark color and where I live the dust condition are a big concern. Since I wash my own myself twice a week, wanted to reduce it to just once in a week or once in two weeks. Save water save planet.
Got myself a Jopasu Car Duster Combo pack which contains a car duster and a mini duster. Got it from Jopasu Car Care Ebay for Rs. 850.



I had waxed the car on Sunday with Collinite 915 wax, so it was time to try out Jopasu Car Duster, since the surface is smooth and waxed. In just 24 hrs of waxing the car it was very dusty, yeah I mean it.

I'm amazed how quickly Jopasu car duster cleans the car. Took me just 5 mins and car was gleaming new. It doesn't move dust, it removes it. Highly recommended.

Recently a 3M Car Care opened its shop just 10 mins from my place. As 3M Car Care stock Meguiars products, went there on Saturday and picked up Megs Natural Shine Protectant Rs. 570 and Megs MicroFiber Wash Mitt(which I wont be requiring so often after Jopasu) Rs. 452.

It had been a year since the car purchase and I never detailed the interiors. So the black plastic around the HU and dash had turned a bit dull and I wasn't liking it a bit.
Used Megs Natural Shine Protectant with a foam applicator pad and applied the polish on the plastic parts. Again amazing result, the plastic around HU were back to black and dash board no more looked dull. Megs Natural Shine Protectant even cleans the surface and at the end of the session applicator pad turned all black from yellow. You require very less amount of the Megs Natural Shine Protectant to work on the interiors and just clean after applying with a clean microfiber towel. It dries quickly and no greasy/waxy surface or residue. Again I would highly recommend it.



Sorry no pics of the work done as I doing it all alone and was all messed up & tired after waxing.

[TopSpeeder]

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

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I'm amazed how quickly Jopasu car duster cleans the car. Took me just 5 mins and car was gleaming new. It doesn't move dust, it removes it. Highly recommended.

I agree, it helps a lot. We may need to wash duster after few usage in hot water.

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

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Megs MicroFiber Wash Mitt(which I wont be requiring so often after Jopasu) Rs. 452.

Mothers Wool wash mitt which I have, having issues. Now the wool started coming out, After sometime I may have to buy Megs one.

[amit_mechengg]

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

Mechanic accepted that the clutch is hard on Vento and the part is replaced if customer brings it to notice. So finally it has been done. He removed the old clutch hose pipe and drained out the old brake fluid onto the floor. Yes, he didn't put anything underneath. I asked can I see the new clutch hose pipe, the thing which I was looking forward to. Verified the part number from @Ricky_63 Vento's bill. It's same.

Thanks for uploading the clutch hose pipe pics.
I went to the VW service centre and asked them to change the pipe.
But they told me instead of 6R2721465R the new part no is 6R2721465K
i.e K suffix.

Can you please provide some insight about these part nos?

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

Can you please provide some insight about these part nos?

I actually have no idea about change in part number for clutch hose pipe.

What I think may be is
1. Some kind of revision might have been made to clutch pipe so change in part number
2. They might be having stock of old clutch hose pipe, so the K suffix.

In Pune you have 2 VW dealership, why not take a chance and try the other dealership and ask them for the part number.

But in the end, if they are doing it for you for free, have it done before they have a change of mind. Amit which Vento TDi is yours new one or pre-refreshed one?

[amit_mechengg]

Originally Posted by el lobo 6061

I actually have no idea about change in part number for clutch hose pipe.

What I think may be is
1. Some kind of revision might have been made to clutch pipe so change in part number
2. They might be having stock of old clutch hose pipe, so the K suffix.

In Pune you have 2 VW dealership, why not take a chance and try the other dealership and ask them for the part number.

But in the end, if they are doing it for you for free, have it done before they have a change of mind. Amit which Vento TDi is yours new one or pre-refreshed one?

Its the new one, with new headunit and park sensors etc.

No, they dont have stock at all. They have ordered it. In the system too they showed me that the new part no has suffix K.

Will check with Vidhyut too. Thanks.

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

Its the new one, with new headunit and park sensors etc.

No, they dont have stock at all. They have ordered it. In the system too they showed me that the new part no has suffix K.

Will check with Vidhyut too. Thanks.

Amit since you too are from Pune, you would have interacted with SA from B.U.Bhandari. Another fellow T-Bhpian @Ninjatalli raised the same problem at BUB recently for the clutch but they refuted it saying its normal in his car. But even his Vento TDi HL is the new one same as yours. Will ask him get in touch with you and have the clutch hose pipe changed too, as they are doing for yours.

Might be possible another bhpian @Mikon may too join you & ask for same for his TDi. So you would have 3 bhpian with the same case and better chance of getting clutch hose pipe replaced FOC.

[newtonMeter]

Hi el-lobo!

super DIY man with the bulbs. few questions

1. Is the bulb holder in vento ceramic by default if not will the 100/90 melt the holder plastic?
2. Any yellowing of reflectors so far?

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by newtonMeter

Hi el-lobo!

super DIY man with the bulbs. few questions

Thanks for appreciation.

Originally Posted by newtonMeter

1. Is the bulb holder in vento ceramic by default if not will the 100/90 melt the holder plastic?

No, 100/90 bulb heat would melt plastic holder for sure. If you use 100/90W bulbs you definitely require relay which has ceramic holders. I have PMP relays which have ceramic holders which prevent the heat from melting the wires. Anytime you upgrade from stock wattage bulbs which mostly are 60/55W, always use relays with ceramic holders from companies like Bosch, Hella, Philips or PMP.

Originally Posted by newtonMeter

2. Any yellowing of reflectors so far?

Nothing yet. Another reason being I don't drive much during the night and when I do I mostly switch on parking lights and use fog lamps. Headlight used only during highway trip or if fog lamp are inadequate. And fog lamp are of stock wattage so no reason to worry about yellowing in fog lamp casing/reflector.

Let me know if you have any other query. Would be happy to help.

[newtonMeter]

Thanks el lobo. How is xtreme vision ? It's got the stock wattage . This will keep me worry free

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by newtonMeter

How is xtreme vision ? It's got the stock wattage . This will keep me worry free

If you wish to retain stock wattage and have yellow color bulbs nothing better than Philips X-tremeVision. If by chance you want stock wattage but white color light go with Philips CrystalVision 4300K. But remember with white color having higher color temperature(K), the luminosity decreases. So during highway drives you may curse white light and would wish for yellow light bulbs.

Make your choice as per your requirements.

[newtonMeter]

Thanks again! I am not a fan of white light but more of functional light. As long as their is adequate illumination I am happy. Currently the stock light is too weak.

[madnish30]

Hey El Lobo!

Enjoyed reading through your experiences!
Now a question - I too am looking for replacement of headlights, fogs and parking lights and perhaps number plate light too - as I too am a fan of white light - while it is clear I will use same bulbs as you used for everything but the headlamps - cuz I'm not too sure about relays and cutouts - also I do a fair bit of night driving which does not seem to be the case with you - don't want to fry the wires or the reflector - so which bulbs do you suggest for white light in the stock wattage?

Also with the fogs you have and parking lights you have - will stock wattage white lights improve illumination enough for comfortable drive at night? - Till now I'm used to very good projector lighting - this will be the first car I Will be driving without any projector+xenons on it.


Please do advice, thanks.

Wishing you many happy miles on your Dark Knight (I named my C250 the same so hi-five )

[el lobo 6061]

Originally Posted by madnish30

Wishing you many happy miles on your Dark Knight (I named my C250 the same so hi-five )

Thanks! All black cars have the most preferred name "The Dark Knight". You really seem to like your cars since you have purchased a black color car as most people owning such high end cars have just one preference that's white. The dullest color for me but easiest on maintaining. Black surely has class. There's a black E-Class in our college and it looks superb. Hi-five.

Originally Posted by madnish30

Please do advice, thanks.

Its a difficult one, but will try my best.

If you are comfortable with the current setup of your Vento than no need to change over to 100/90W bulbs. If you find the current 60/55W setup not up to your requirement, 100/90W option is always open. One small suggestion, don't go over 4300 K(Kelvin) temp bulbs no matter what. BMW & Audi's have 4300 K projectors. Anything above would just give you looks and no illumination on road. Driving in night on highways would be utter pain.

Here are 3 setups which I would suggest on different perspective.

A. Stock Wattage, no relays, no playing around with electrical. VW A.S.S. a happy fellow.

1. If looks were to kill. That would be apt to describe this setup.

Headlights > Philips Crystal Vision H4 60/55W 4300K
Fog Lamps > Philips Crystal Vision 9006 55W 4300K
Parking Light/Rear number plate > Philips Blue Vision W5W 4000K

2. More illumination but slight less killing look than previous setup

Headlights > Philips Blue Vision H4 60/55W 4000K
Fog Lamps > Philips Blue Vision 9006 55W 4000K
Parking Light/Rear number plate > Philips Blue Vision W5W 4000K


B. 100/90W setup for better illumination and to upset VW A.S.S. Same setup as mine. The best of both worlds.

Headlights > Philips Essential Vision H4 100/90W Rs. 300 per pc
Fog Lamps > Philips Blue Vision 9006 55W 4000K Rs. 675 per set
Parking Light/Rear number plate > Philips Blue Vision W5W 4000K Rs. 100 per set.

For the above setup use relays of either Bosch, Hella or PMP. Relays main purpose is to protect stock electrical wiring from 100/90W bulb heat.

Pardon me for the late reply but university exams kept me busy.

Edit:
Madnish do put up a ownership review of 530D if its fine with you as per your convenience. That's a diesel torque monster you got there.