[Chitta Pradhan]

When I think of premium petrol hatch, only car which come to my mind is i-20 & Jazz. Jazz is probably slightly pricier & at the same time featureless in comparison to i-20. My relative recently purchased a fluidic petrol Asta & rejected Jazz outrightly. I had warned him about the punny petrol engine of i-20, but he seems to be happy with the power of the engine even on highways with four adults & AC.

What say, which is a better buy overall, Jazz or i-20 petrol??

[9thsphinx]

Originally Posted by Chitta Pradhan

When I think of premium petrol hatch, only car which come to my mind is i-20 & Jazz. Jazz is probably slightly pricier & at the same time featureless in comparison to i-20. My relative recently purchased a fluidic petrol Asta & rejected Jazz outrightly. I had warned him about the punny petrol engine of i-20, but he seems to be happy with the power of the engine even on highways with four adults & AC.

What say, which is a better buy overall, Jazz or i-20 petrol??

Since i have both these cars, i think i am fit to answer. If its driving pleasure you're seeking, I would vote for the Jazz. If it's creature comforts, you can't beat the i20 Asta!

[jogidada]

Test drove the diesel at Garve motors. Car is a hoot to drive on the highway! There is a huge difference in the onroad price between the diesel and petrol. The Asta diesel was 8.68 while petrol was 7.10. Similarly the Sportz diesel was 8.15 and petrol was 6.59. SA was ready to throw in free insurance and loyalty bonus of 20000 Rs. for the petrol variants, but nothing on offer for the diesels. The offers result in an approx 2 lakhs difference between the petrol and diesel models which is very tempting.
Has anyone managed any discounts or loyalty benefits on the diesel?

[car.lover]

Originally Posted by jogidada

Test drove the diesel at Garve motors. Car is a hoot to drive on the highway! There is a huge difference in the onroad price between the diesel and petrol. The Asta diesel was 8.68 while petrol was 7.10. Similarly the Sportz diesel was 8.15 and petrol was 6.59. SA was ready to throw in free insurance and loyalty bonus of 20000 Rs. for the petrol variants, but nothing on offer for the diesels. The offers result in an approx 2 lakhs difference between the petrol and diesel models which is very tempting.
Has anyone managed any discounts or loyalty benefits on the diesel?

Nothing on the diesel I am afraid. Was in a similar boat, but post discounts the difference between Petrol and Diesel was so high that I plumped for the Petrol and upgraded to Asta from Sportz, my original target. Helps that the wife is driving this one and her usage is not very high

[Chitta Pradhan]

Originally Posted by 9thsphinx

Since i have both these cars, i think i am fit to answer. If its driving pleasure you're seeking, I would vote for the Jazz. If it's creature comforts, you can't beat the i20 Asta!

Thanks for your response. Since you own both, please elaborate on the followings of both cars, which will help my cousin brother to book one:

1. FE in city & highways with AC
2. Maintenance cost.
3. Highway cruising abilities, speed which is attained easily without any strain on the engine.
4. City drivability.
5. Effectiveness of AC.
6. Quietness inside the cabin/ least engine, tyre & wind noise.
7. Ride quality.
8. Handling.
9. Overall comfort on long journeys for passengers & driver.
10. Any rattling issues.
11. Lighter controls.
12. Gear shift quality.
13. Any problem in GC.

Not possible to know all of these from TDs, hence seeking your help. Hope you will not mind for the long list.

Thanks

[9thsphinx]

Originally Posted by Chitta Pradhan

Thanks for your response. Since you own both, please elaborate on the followings of both cars, which will help my cousin brother to book one:

1. FE in city & highways with AC

2. Maintenance cost.

3. Highway cruising abilities, speed which is attained easily without any strain on the engine.

4. City drivability.

5. Effectiveness of AC.

6. Quietness inside the cabin/ least engine, tyre & wind noise.

7. Ride quality.

8. Handling.

9. Overall comfort on long journeys for passengers & driver.

10. Any rattling issues.

11. Lighter controls.

12. Gear shift quality.

Not possible to know all of these from TDs, hence seeking your help. Hope you will not mind for the long list.

Thanks

1. FE in city & highways with AC

- i20 is very new and hasn't yet gone through it's first service. FE on the i20 as of today is definitely lower than the Jazz. The Jazz gives me an AFE of 15 in the city with AC ON always. Highway average of the Jazz is 2km more. I doubt the i20 can beat that

2. Maintenance cost.

- Can't compare yet. But I believe the i20 will be more expensive to maintain.

3. Highway cruising abilities, speed which is attained easily without any strain on the engine.

- Both the Jazz and the i20 have underpowered engines. They're not fun to drive on the highways. Haven't done any highway cruising on the i20.

4. City drivability.

- i20's light steering is a boon to drive. The A-pillars on both these car can be obstrusive to some. Both these hatchbacks are however fun to drive within the city.

5. Effectiveness of AC.

- Definitely Honda. The Jazz's AC is the best amongst hatchbacks.

6. Quietness inside the cabin/ least engine, tyre & wind noise.

- Both the i20 and the Jazz offer a silent ride. Jazz runs on Michelin XM1 and the i20 runs on Apollo's. Little engine noise filters through to the cabin. Nothing to complain.

7. Ride quality.

- Soft suspension setup on the i20; hard on the Jazz. Better low speed rides on the i20; better corner carving capabilities on the Jazz. Passengers in the back seat will like the i20's ride quality better!

8. Handling.

- Bumpy rides on both. i20 is a wee-bit better handler than the Jazz at low speeds.

9. Overall comfort on long journeys for passengers & driver.

- All seats on both cars offer good comfort levels. I think this is subjective to personal opinion. Height, structure, build and other factors count.

10. Any rattling issues.

- A small rattle on my Jazz from the backseat. This is supposedly a common problem (pre-facelift models) but has an easy fix. Can't comment on the i20 as yet - no rattles since today.

11. Lighter controls.

- Lighter controls? If it's the steering you're talking about - definitely the i20.

12. Gear shift quality.

- Smooth on the Jazz, but smooth-er on the i20. The clutch is also softer on the i20.

13. Any problem in GC.

- None yet on both these cars. The Jazz hasn't scraped once even when fully loaded with 6 suitcases and 4 travel size bags and 2 passengers. I use it a lot for airport runs.

Not possible to know all of these from TDs, hence seeking your help. Hope you will not mind for the long list.

- No worries. I have tried to answer your queries with a shortest possible explanation. Hope it helps!

I have a separate thread, where I mention my reasons for buying the i20. Its superior light steering and in the city commuter capabilities make it a perfect hatchback for the ladies in the house. For everything else, I would pick the Jazz. As a matter of fact, I did this exercise once before and picked the Jazz over the i20 back in 2010!

[Chitta Pradhan]

Originally Posted by 9thsphinx

11. Lighter controls.

- Lighter controls? If it's the steering you're talking about - definitely the i20.

Thank you so much for your time. By lighter controls, I meant light clutch, steering, smooth gearshift etc. which you had amply clarified.

Most likely, a i-20 Asta will be booked since it seems that as a car both are evenly matched, but i-20 offers lot more user friendly features. Fingers crossed.

Thank you once again.

[sgiitk]

I hope they put in a newer and better transmission (the 3+1 is a dinosaur) in the AT else they risk being devoured by Honda. The Brio AT is coming and it does not need rocket science to plug it into the Jazz.

[mitesh.singh]

Originally Posted by jogidada

Test drove the diesel at Garve motors. Car is a hoot to drive on the highway! There is a huge difference in the onroad price between the diesel and petrol. The Asta diesel was 8.68 while petrol was 7.10. Similarly the Sportz diesel was 8.15 and petrol was 6.59. SA was ready to throw in free insurance and loyalty bonus of 20000 Rs. for the petrol variants, but nothing on offer for the diesels. The offers result in an approx 2 lakhs difference between the petrol and diesel models which is very tempting.
Has anyone managed any discounts or loyalty benefits on the diesel?

I managed to churn out INR. 15000 after 2 weeks of negotiations they say that they cant give discount as Hyundai is not throwing offers on any Diesel variants, but showrooms always have margins. My suggestion carry your chq book at showroom and then negotiate goodluck

[bharat4ever]

^^ I tried this too, but no luck. These Trident guys were very adamant that they will not offer any discount at all on the Diesel variants. I even showed them a proforma invoice from the Punto guys, and I brandished the paper in the air and said that I'll move over to Punto if no discounts are offered. They still didn't budge.

[9thsphinx]

Guys, I have a question. I have opted for the third year extended warranty on my i20. The sales guy told me that there's some certificate that I get from the company regarding this extended warranty and it takes about 15 days after the actual purchase has been made to get it. I will, however, get this certificate from my dealer.

I would like to understand if this is the actual process and if it indeed takes this long? Any first hand experience?

[h@r$h@l]

Originally Posted by 9thsphinx

Guys, I have a question. I have opted for the third year extended warranty on my i20. The sales guy told me that there's some certificate that I get from the company regarding this extended warranty and it takes about 15 days after the actual purchase has been made to get it. I will, however, get this certificate from my dealer.

I would like to understand if this is the actual process and if it indeed takes this long? Any first hand experience?

yes. The certificate will come to your registered address directly. Even i got mine same way. Dont remember exact time it took. But ya, it did come.

[9thsphinx]

What do you buy with a 1100 Rs accessories voucher when you have bought an Asta? As a part of some promotional scheme I received one from the dealership, but I have absolutely no clue how to use it. I don't want to spend a dime more on accessories apart from the voucher I have. Any ideas?

[bharat4ever]

Originally Posted by 9thsphinx

What do you buy with a 1100 Rs accessories voucher when you have bought an Asta? As a part of some promotional scheme I received one from the dealership, but I have absolutely no clue how to use it. I don't want to spend a dime more on accessories apart from the voucher I have. Any ideas?

An additional set of floor mats? They gave crappy ones for me, which is already torn on the driver's side. The mats look like they are made of foam, and not rubber. What did you get?

[9thsphinx]

Originally Posted by bharat4ever

An additional set of floor mats? They gave crappy ones for me, which is already torn on the driver's side. The mats look like they are made of foam, and not rubber. What did you get?

They gave me a proper black carpet mat with the i20 logo in blue imprinted on it. It looks and feels durable. And then again for 1100 I don't think I would get a good set of floor mats anyway!

I was thinking of going for the side step garnish (they don't have the ones with the blue light) - just the regular steel scuff plates and with whatever's left some car perfumes - whatever brand they stock. Criminal waste of money.

I wish they could reimburse it with cash. Would use it towards the underbody coating whenever I get that done.