[akhilesh]

OMG! There is just no comparison between the Swift and the Jazz! This is incredible pricing. Love you honda!

[julupani]

Still the one problem remains, lack of a diesel option. And the premium hatch segment is way more biased towards the diesel engines than the C-segment sedans. So though this will take the volumes to reasonable levels, but still will remain far behind the Swift and the i20.

[supremeBaleno]

A move that was long overdue. Anyway glad that they finally did it. Maybe inspiration from the sales increase after dropping prices of ANHC.
I am sure existing owners won't be pleased though.

BTW a friend who booked the Swift-ZDi is now thinking of cancelling & going for Jazz.

So, what was that about Honda never giving discounts ?

[indivic]

Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

So, what was that about Honda never giving discounts ?

Actually I think they were giving discounts, but quietly. I got Rs.20,000/- off on the Civic when it was still selling well in 2007, simply because it was a corporate purchase(on lease). I hadn't even started any discussion with them about the price.

Then when sales came down they gave away the extended warranty as standard, it was worth about 9.5k in 2007.

[Furebo]

Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

BTW a friend who booked the Swift-ZDi is now thinking of cancelling & going for Jazz.

One of my friend's is also in the very same dilemma! If possible please update us on what your friend chooses and why?

[vigsom]

Originally Posted by Furebo

One of my friend's is also in the very same dilemma! If possible please update us on what your friend chooses and why?

Your friend should simply choose what his heart likes ; just one point - choose a diesel if usage is going to be upwards of 2000kms a month,and a petrol otherwise.

There are hidden costs( addnl. capital,addnl. road tax,insurance, maintenance, opportunity costs) attached to diesels which most of us ignore ; and if one calculates the actual cost of ownership by considering opportunity costs etc.,the true picture emerges.

I once made a comparison between buying a DZire ZDI vs ZXI to help a friend make an informed choice but that file seems to have got misplaced.

[Furebo]

Originally Posted by vigsom

Your friend should simply choose what his heart likes ; just one point - choose a diesel if usage is going to be upwards of 2000kms a month,and a petrol otherwise.

That is where the catch is the Jazz X and Swift Zdi both cost 7.5L OTR where he resides! So even if his usage does not exactly justify a diesel. He prefers to have one because of higher future runs. But is at the same time confused.

Originally Posted by vigsom

There are hidden costs( addnl. capital,addnl. road tax,insurance, maintenance, opportunity costs) attached to diesels which most of us ignore ; and if one calculates the actual cost of ownership by considering opportunity costs etc.,the true picture emerges.

Agreed, But being a Maruti with superior ride and handling does have its benefits. The FE and resale value are higher for diesels.

[RegularIndian]

Out of curiosity, I went for a Jazz Test Drive today and also did a TD of the new Swift and Ritz a few days ago.

Found the Jazz to be too too sluggish, no doubt the space, interiors and smoothness is top notch but the engine was not responsive at all. I had to press it way down to get the acceleration, esp compared to swift/ritz

Not sure if this was because it was a 2 yrs old 27000 kms done TD car.

Can anyone let me know if I'm the only one experiencing this?

[mail4ajo]

Originally Posted by RegularIndian

Found the Jazz to be too too sluggish,

Yes, the initial is a bit on the weaker side. Once it moves past the 2K rpm, its much better.

[RegularIndian]

Thanks mail4ajo, as a city slicker car , something that zips quick and fast the Ritz/Swift/i10 breed is much better, why would the Jazz get such rave reviews , just because its a Honda?

[mail4ajo]

Originally Posted by RegularIndian

why would the Jazz get such rave reviews , just because its a Honda?

I believe so partly. Honda is quite an aspirational car brand in India. I dreamt about owning one for long.

But the car is also certainly better than the competition in many respects. For example the interior parts quality, space, practicality, fit and finsh, FE etc

[freak1201]

Me's planning to buy one soon!
Thanks HSIL for allowing my dream car in my budget!

[mail4ajo]

I had a detailed look at the new Jazz today. Couldnt see any major cost cutting prima facia. But yes, the plastics, rubber parts and switchgear look bit different, not bad. But cant say they are lower quality.

[frequentflyer]

I am planning a test drive of the Jazz tomorrow. The areas of concern are the low ground clearance and whether after using a Ford Fusion petrol for over four years, the Jazz can cope with the 1.6 litre Fusion engine's power. The Jazz otherwise, standing at the dealer's showcase, is a well planned car and looks really good. The Honda label does not come in. I wonder how much difference is 10 bhp - between a Fusion 1.6 and Jazz 1.2? Will find out tomorrow!

[Furebo]

Originally Posted by frequentflyer

I wonder how much difference is 10 bhp - between a Fusion 1.6 and Jazz 1.2?

More than the 10 BHP difference it is the 400cc displacement and low end torque that matters. Both of which are not strong points of the Jazz.

If you are used to the GC of the fusion. No way you can compare the Jazz to that. Be prepared to drive carefully or you may end up scraping the car.

All the best for your TD and I hope you may find what you are looking for.