My Beauty ---> Fiat Linea- HipHop Black

28th September 2009, 13:20

I read in Team BHP threads that A represents January, B February....J September ['i' excluded, reasons I do not know]. Apart from VIN, the sales executive has given engine number as 7022516. In fact, earlier, I had selected Medium Grey for which VIN given was MCAxxxxxxEPZ. Since EPZ represented May 2009, I changed my colour from Medium Grey to Fox Trote Azure although I knew that both these new colours are introduced in August 2009 only. How a vehicle with VIN code of May 2009 could come with a new colour introduced in August 2009, is a million dollar question, which only Fiat/Tata people could answer. The sales executive did not have any iota of knowledge about decoding VIN. Since I do not want to buy my favourite car even with slightest lingering doubt about the date of actual manufacture, I finally selected Fox Trote Azure, which anyway my wife preferred over Medium Grey!

wildon · 28th September 2009, 13:45

Quote:

Since 1981, VINs consist of 17 characters which do not include the letters I (i), O (o), or Q (q) (to avoid confusion with numerals 1 and 0).

In FIAT's case letter "Q" is used. so there is no point in avoiding "I" too.

wildon · 28th September 2009, 14:10

Here is my finding for LINEA codes

MCAXXXXXXX

1101160 = 1.4 16V E3 ACTIVE
1102160 = 1.4 16V E3 DYNAMIC
1103160 = 1.4 16V E3 EMOTION
1107160 = 1.4 16V E3 EMOTION PACK

1101170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 ACTIVE
1102170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 DYNAMIC
1103170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 EMOTION
110D170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 DYNAMICE PACK
1107170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 EMOTION PACK

HERE IS THE PUNTO FINDING

11815B0 = 1.2 8V E3 65CV/48KW ACTIVE
11825C0 = 1.4 16V E3 95CV/70KW DYNAMIC
11835C0 = 1.4 16V E3 95CV/70KW EMOTION
1185AC0 = 1.4 16V E3 95CV/70KW EMOTION PACK

1181550 = 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW ACTIVE
1182550 = 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW DYNAMIC
1183550 = 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW EMOTION
118A550= 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW EMOTION PACK

neotraveller · 28th September 2009, 22:21

@wildon,
Excellent analysis.

Spot ON and matches 100% with my Linea's VIN.
Can you share the site where this info is found?

Medium-Grey was introduced few months before of FTA.
They were not released at same time. I think May/June was when I saw medium-grey option in the Fiat website.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Ravi

How a vehicle with VIN code of May 2009 could come with a new colour introduced in August 2009, is a million dollar question, which only Fiat/Tata people could answer.

wildon · 29th September 2009, 14:03

Its not from a website , its from a FIAT spare parts software.

The 3 alphabets are interesting, as i think it represents MM/DD/YYYY

Till now i have got following 3 alphabets from various members
AQZ
BQZ
CQZ
DPZ
EPZ
FPZ
GPZ
HPZ
JPZ

A= Jan , B= Feb etc. Does any one have last 3 alphabets starting from 'I' ( i ) , if no we can conclude that its not been used and there is already 'J' reported from a yet to be delivered vehicle. [if 'I' ( i ) is not reported then 'J' means September]

The second alphabet is till now either 'P' or 'Q'. Third is still constant on 'Z' so i think it represent year 2009.

wildon · 29th September 2009, 15:00

UPDATE:

I just found out that FIAT VIN decoding doesn't reveals the Production date , it only reveals the Production Month and Year.

VahanPujari · 29th September 2009, 18:23

Whats the 2nd last digit i.e. P or Q in Fiat's India VIN?

neotraveller · 29th September 2009, 19:41

since there's only P or Q ... my guess is .... mfg.date in 1st half of the month and 2nd half of the month.

geeash · 30th September 2009, 17:30

oh boy this is getting more and more interesting.

mine is 'q'

there are decoders in team-bhp

VahanPujari · 30th September 2009, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeash

oh boy this is getting more and more interesting.

mine is 'q'

I'll make it more interesting !

Mine has a Q in VIN & my car does not have towhook in rear bumper.

Yours has a Q in VIN & your car does not have towhook in rear bumper.

Now until someone has a Q in VIN & also has towhook in rear bumper ..

Oh no ! towhook ! Not again

coolboy007 · 30th September 2009, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by VahanPujari

Now until someone has a Q in VIN & also has towhook in rear bumper ..

I will do those honours sirji

Mine is a BQZ and also has a tow hook at the rear bumper. Now dont say the dealer has replaced an accidental bumper on my car.

Someone please say your chasis also has a "Q" and has a tow hook.
I havent seen any F RED Linea with a tow hook till now, only silvers had it like Pranav's and mine.

wildon · 30th September 2009, 23:32

P & Q are still a puzzle to me.
First i thought was it will be the plant code. P= Pune
But then whats Q
Does any one knows a Indica Vista/Fiat Palio VIN Number may be we will get a clue from that

aks_karthik · 1st October 2009, 09:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolboy007

I will do those honours sirji

Mine is a BQZ and also has a tow hook at the rear bumper. Now dont say the dealer has replaced an accidental bumper on my car.

Someone please say your chasis also has a "Q" and has a tow hook.
I havent seen any F RED Linea with a tow hook till now, only silvers had it like Pranav's and mine.

Mine also BQZ and has tow hook in rear and in Minimal Grey color.
I only started a point about tow hook earlier

I have seen a F.Red Linea in chennai with tow hook.

wildon · 1st October 2009, 09:59

Also noticed 'Q' seen till March. April onwards its P. Does anyone have an alphabet 'Q' in a vehicle purchased after March.

atilla · 15th October 2009, 10:57

Hi All,
Am running off to Concorde Motors Bangalore late afternoon today to take delivery of my own "Admiration Guaranteed". Had postponed the delivery for a few days, as everyone in the family wanted delivery to be taken on dhanteras.

BTW, she's Medium Grey and her VIN is MCA110D1709010109JPZ.
Does it say anything or add to the confusion?
@Wildon: I think you are closest to decoding the whole VIN.
@Vahan: Linking VIN and towhook was awesome!

28th September 2009, 13:20	#136
J.Ravi Posts: n/a	I read in Team BHP threads that A represents January, B February....J September ['i' excluded, reasons I do not know]. Apart from VIN, the sales executive has given engine number as 7022516. In fact, earlier, I had selected Medium Grey for which VIN given was MCAxxxxxxEPZ. Since EPZ represented May 2009, I changed my colour from Medium Grey to Fox Trote Azure although I knew that both these new colours are introduced in August 2009 only. How a vehicle with VIN code of May 2009 could come with a new colour introduced in August 2009, is a million dollar question, which only Fiat/Tata people could answer. The sales executive did not have any iota of knowledge about decoding VIN. Since I do not want to buy my favourite car even with slightest lingering doubt about the date of actual manufacture, I finally selected Fox Trote Azure, which anyway my wife preferred over Medium Grey! Last edited by J.Ravi : 28th September 2009 at 13:26.
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28th September 2009, 14:10	#138
wildon BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,442 Thanked: 1,253 Times View My Garage	Here is my finding for LINEA codes MCAXXXXXXX 1101160 = 1.4 16V E3 ACTIVE 1102160 = 1.4 16V E3 DYNAMIC 1103160 = 1.4 16V E3 EMOTION 1107160 = 1.4 16V E3 EMOTION PACK 1101170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 ACTIVE 1102170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 DYNAMIC 1103170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 EMOTION 110D170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 DYNAMICE PACK 1107170 = 1.3 MJTD 16V 90CV/66KW E3 EMOTION PACK HERE IS THE PUNTO FINDING 11815B0 = 1.2 8V E3 65CV/48KW ACTIVE 11825C0 = 1.4 16V E3 95CV/70KW DYNAMIC 11835C0 = 1.4 16V E3 95CV/70KW EMOTION 1185AC0 = 1.4 16V E3 95CV/70KW EMOTION PACK 1181550 = 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW ACTIVE 1182550 = 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW DYNAMIC 1183550 = 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW EMOTION 118A550= 1.3 16V E3 75CV/55KW EMOTION PACK Last edited by wildon : 28th September 2009 at 14:17.
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29th September 2009, 14:03	#140
wildon BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,442 Thanked: 1,253 Times View My Garage	Its not from a website , its from a FIAT spare parts software. The 3 alphabets are interesting, as i think it represents MM/DD/YYYY Till now i have got following 3 alphabets from various members AQZ BQZ CQZ DPZ EPZ FPZ GPZ HPZ JPZ A= Jan , B= Feb etc. Does any one have last 3 alphabets starting from 'I' ( i ) , if no we can conclude that its not been used and there is already 'J' reported from a yet to be delivered vehicle. [if 'I' ( i ) is not reported then 'J' means September] The second alphabet is till now either 'P' or 'Q'. Third is still constant on 'Z' so i think it represent year 2009. Last edited by wildon : 29th September 2009 at 14:19.
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29th September 2009, 15:00	#141
wildon BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,442 Thanked: 1,253 Times View My Garage	UPDATE: I just found out that FIAT VIN decoding doesn't reveals the Production date , it only reveals the Production Month and Year.
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29th September 2009, 18:23	#142
VahanPujari BANNED Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,308 Thanked: 8 Times	Whats the 2nd last digit i.e. P or Q in Fiat's India VIN?
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29th September 2009, 19:41	#143
neotraveller BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 739 Thanked: 0 Times	since there's only P or Q ... my guess is .... mfg.date in 1st half of the month and 2nd half of the month.
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30th September 2009, 17:30	#144
geeash Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,513 Thanked: 146 Times	oh boy this is getting more and more interesting. mine is 'q' there are decoders in team-bhp
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30th September 2009, 23:32	#147
wildon BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,442 Thanked: 1,253 Times View My Garage	P & Q are still a puzzle to me. First i thought was it will be the plant code. P= Pune But then whats Q Does any one knows a Indica Vista/Fiat Palio VIN Number may be we will get a clue from that Last edited by wildon : 30th September 2009 at 23:40.
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1st October 2009, 09:59	#149
wildon BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,442 Thanked: 1,253 Times View My Garage	Also noticed 'Q' seen till March. April onwards its P. Does anyone have an alphabet 'Q' in a vehicle purchased after March.
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15th October 2009, 10:57	#150
atilla Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi All, Am running off to Concorde Motors Bangalore late afternoon today to take delivery of my own "Admiration Guaranteed". Had postponed the delivery for a few days, as everyone in the family wanted delivery to be taken on dhanteras. BTW, she's Medium Grey and her VIN is MCA110D1709010109JPZ. Does it say anything or add to the confusion? @Wildon: I think you are closest to decoding the whole VIN. @Vahan: Linking VIN and towhook was awesome!
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