First love is first love, The Punto Saga.

vigneshram · 20th July 2009, 17:58

The OZ from Naveen's red Palio S10 looks great.What ICE have you put?Speaker locations?Quality of sound?Coming to the dash Sidharth of NDTV car and bike,showed the same kind of issue when he td ed a punto Emotion pack.so i think its common.Moreover why dont you look for MOMO 98 PCD wheels?they are the only good looking 98 PCD s.If not go for 100 pcd.in chennai many LINEA Emotion Packs run on 100 PCD,after exchanging their stock alloys.Many Palio too run 100 PCD after slight machining of the wheels.Its done in all tyre shops.here.even in hyderabad Asoka Wheels,Minister Road branch told me to go for 100 PCD wheels and they would machine it.But i had bought Palio GTX 98 PCD wheels.

Vist link below for a few Red Punto pics.with 100pcd alloys
Modifiyeli Punto > FIAT > Modifiye Oto > Turkmod.com

Vignesh
1.2 SIENA ELX

Glifford · 20th July 2009, 18:04

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Originally Posted by vigneshram

red Palio S10

Did I read Red Palio S10? Wasn't it supposed to be Canary Yellow? Repainted you mean or some limited batch of limited batch (I heard someone with sufficient influence got a red GTX ordered with an S10 Gearbox)

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Originally Posted by vigneshram

If not go for 100 pcd.in chennai many LINEA Emotion Packs run on 100 PCD,after exchanging their stock alloys.Many Palio too run 100 PCD after slight machining of the wheels.Its done in all tyre shops.here.even in hyderabad Asoka Wheels,Minister Road branch told me to go for 100 PCD wheels and they would machine it.But i had bought Palio GTX 98 PCD wheels.

Are you sure it is the safe thing to do? How accurate are these machiners? What if there is slight eccentricity?

vigneshram · 20th July 2009, 18:08

Glifford bhai,
Naveen s S10 is reapainted to red from yellow.

Vignesh
1.2 SIENA ELX

srikant · 20th July 2009, 21:33

Your pics of the ICE install is pending. We are all waiting. BTW the alloys look hot and do get yourself nice pairs of alloys with some good rubber on it.

furioussphinx · 20th July 2009, 23:15

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Originally Posted by vigneshram

The OZ from Naveen's red Palio S10 looks great.What ICE have you put?Speaker locations?Quality of sound?Coming to the dash Sidharth of NDTV car and bike,showed the same kind of issue when he td ed a punto Emotion pack.so i think its common.Moreover why dont you look for MOMO 98 PCD wheels?they are the only good looking 98 PCD s.If not go for 100 pcd.in chennai many LINEA Emotion Packs run on 100 PCD,after exchanging their stock alloys.Many Palio too run 100 PCD after slight machining of the wheels.Its done in all tyre shops.here.even in hyderabad Asoka Wheels,Minister Road branch told me to go for 100 PCD wheels and they would machine it.But i had bought Palio GTX 98 PCD wheels.

Vist link below for a few Red Punto pics.with 100pcd alloys
Modifiyeli Punto > FIAT > Modifiye Oto > Turkmod.com

Vignesh
1.2 SIENA ELX

We went and spoke to Ritesh of Ashoka Wheels and he did try to persuade me into going for 100pcd. But Ive heard a lot of stories about high speed wobbling. And I dont want to compromise on this stability aspect just for looks. Infact today I saw another punto with similar alloys and I pulled over and asked him. He got 14inch prestige rims which were 100pcd fit on w/o any alterations. I asked him about the wobbling issue if he is having any. He never went above 120 so he did not know. This is a risky question and I spoke to one well known fiat specialist mechanic and a few bhpians too, and all recommended me to stick to 98pcd itself.

How much do the MOMOs cost about?

Ive got a Pio 5050UB HU along with JBL 607c in the rear and 608c upfront powered by some old Pio 4ch amp. Fitting was done very neatly and all concealed. The audio sounds kickass but a little jarring from the rear comps at high volumes. Culprit being the amp. Right now am short on resources (read $$$), or else I have plans to add a JBL 4ch amp along with a CS1204 subwoofer with custom enclosure.

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Originally Posted by srikant

Your pics of the ICE install is pending. We are all waiting. BTW the alloys look hot and do get yourself nice pairs of alloys with some good rubber on it.

Sorry I could not take pics of the ICE install. I carried my camera along and in the middle I had to run to a store in the other corner of the city to change a wire on my mech's Scooty ES

And to top it, it was raining cats and dogs. By the time I reached back all drenched, the install was over.

ghost_rider · 21st July 2009, 08:45

Momo wheels are available in 98 pcd. In fact, just saw a set the other day, black matte with red lip. looked real hot ! Cost - about 50 k for a set ! Only for those who have deep pockets.
I might consider going in for those but only if some one offered to buy the wheels of my Linea.

On another note, a friend of mine can actually manufacture custom alloys, any size, any pcd, for about 60 k for a set of 5. He has his manufacturing unit in Faridabad, Haryana. Could be a solution for someone who wants exclusivity and 98 pcd!

srikant · 21st July 2009, 21:46

Thats a good setup of ICE pal, you can always upgrade by stages. You can try changing some amp setting to reduce the jarring for now.

vigneshram · 22nd July 2009, 17:20

Guys,
I have a coupla friends who run 100 PCD on Palio,most of them have done 140+ without any wobbling issues.None have had problems.

Vignesh
1.2 SIENA ELX

srikant · 24th July 2009, 00:14

On long term reliability it seems 98 PCD will be the best bet. Had been to Tata Fiat showroom here, and as per the people there, they suggest for 98 PCD only. Dont know the details though.

harry10 · 24th July 2009, 15:01

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Originally Posted by srikant

On long term reliability it seems 98 PCD will be the best bet. Had been to Tata Fiat showroom here, and as per the people there, they suggest for 98 PCD only. Dont know the details though.

Considering that how many alloy options we have in punto?
And what brands as well.

~~VinZ~~ · 24th July 2009, 16:29

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Originally Posted by harry10

Considering that how many alloy options we have in punto?
And what brands as well.

TWO.

The stock alloy and the linea alloys. OZ use to have 98 PCDs but not sure if it is still available in the market to buy.

Palio_2005 · 24th July 2009, 18:46

I was checking Aura alloys and they have a wide range for 98 PCD alloys. Correct me if I am worng please...

NutsNBolts · 24th July 2009, 22:02

Hey furioussphinx, Its a bit late in the day to be congratulating and all, but my membership was approved today, so here goes, Congrats dude. I have been following your experience closely as a Grande Punto is on my mind.

a.ashokdurai · 25th July 2009, 00:01

The biggest issue with finding wheels is the PCD - Pitch Circle Diameter - this is the size of a circle drawn around the four bolt holes. Most cars (e.g. Honda, Nissan, Toyota) are 4x 100 PCD. The FIAT (and many European cars: Alfa Romeo, Renault) needs 4x 98 PCD. Make sure you ask your wheel shop about this PCD first. They may suggest 'wobbly bolts' which are bolts that have a floating spacer to cope with the mis-Alignment. It is better to have wheels with correct 98PCD though.

furioussphinx · 25th July 2009, 09:36

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Originally Posted by a.ashokdurai

The biggest issue with finding wheels is the PCD - Pitch Circle Diameter - this is the size of a circle drawn around the four bolt holes. Most cars (e.g. Honda, Nissan, Toyota) are 4x 100 PCD. The FIAT (and many European cars: Alfa Romeo, Renault) needs 4x 98 PCD. Make sure you ask your wheel shop about this PCD first. They may suggest 'wobbly bolts' which are bolts that have a floating spacer to cope with the mis-Alignment. It is better to have wheels with correct 98PCD though.

Thats the reason why I am hunting on and on for 98pcd alloys. Some dealers might alter 100pcd alloys to 98pcd and sell them, how can I spot that whether its an authentic 98pcd or some altered one?

Another issue I am facing is the rear parcel tray. Trust me guys, there are small small niggles in the cars and the bottomline is clear, the interior plastic quality is bad. Anyways another 400kms to go for my first service, make that 3 days

20th July 2009, 17:58	#166
vigneshram BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stuttgart,DE Posts: 356 Thanked: 48 Times View My Garage	The OZ from Naveen's red Palio S10 looks great.What ICE have you put?Speaker locations?Quality of sound?Coming to the dash Sidharth of NDTV car and bike,showed the same kind of issue when he td ed a punto Emotion pack.so i think its common.Moreover why dont you look for MOMO 98 PCD wheels?they are the only good looking 98 PCD s.If not go for 100 pcd.in chennai many LINEA Emotion Packs run on 100 PCD,after exchanging their stock alloys.Many Palio too run 100 PCD after slight machining of the wheels.Its done in all tyre shops.here.even in hyderabad Asoka Wheels,Minister Road branch told me to go for 100 PCD wheels and they would machine it.But i had bought Palio GTX 98 PCD wheels. Vist link below for a few Red Punto pics.with 100pcd alloys Modifiyeli Punto > FIAT > Modifiye Oto > Turkmod.com Vignesh 1.2 SIENA ELX
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20th July 2009, 18:08	#168
vigneshram BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stuttgart,DE Posts: 356 Thanked: 48 Times View My Garage	Glifford bhai, Naveen s S10 is reapainted to red from yellow. Vignesh 1.2 SIENA ELX
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20th July 2009, 21:33	#169
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 488 Thanked: 12 Times	Your pics of the ICE install is pending. We are all waiting. BTW the alloys look hot and do get yourself nice pairs of alloys with some good rubber on it.
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21st July 2009, 08:45	#171
ghost_rider BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NEW DELHI Posts: 148 Thanked: 2 Times	Momo wheels are available in 98 pcd. In fact, just saw a set the other day, black matte with red lip. looked real hot ! Cost - about 50 k for a set ! Only for those who have deep pockets. I might consider going in for those but only if some one offered to buy the wheels of my Linea. On another note, a friend of mine can actually manufacture custom alloys, any size, any pcd, for about 60 k for a set of 5. He has his manufacturing unit in Faridabad, Haryana. Could be a solution for someone who wants exclusivity and 98 pcd!
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21st July 2009, 21:46	#172
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 488 Thanked: 12 Times	Thats a good setup of ICE pal, you can always upgrade by stages. You can try changing some amp setting to reduce the jarring for now.
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22nd July 2009, 17:20	#173
vigneshram BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stuttgart,DE Posts: 356 Thanked: 48 Times View My Garage	Guys, I have a coupla friends who run 100 PCD on Palio,most of them have done 140+ without any wobbling issues.None have had problems. Vignesh 1.2 SIENA ELX
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24th July 2009, 00:14	#174
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 488 Thanked: 12 Times	On long term reliability it seems 98 PCD will be the best bet. Had been to Tata Fiat showroom here, and as per the people there, they suggest for 98 PCD only. Dont know the details though.
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24th July 2009, 18:46	#177
Palio_2005 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 991 Thanked: 878 Times	I was checking Aura alloys and they have a wide range for 98 PCD alloys. Correct me if I am worng please...
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24th July 2009, 22:02	#178
NutsNBolts BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jammu Posts: 817 Thanked: 41 Times View My Garage	Hey furioussphinx, Its a bit late in the day to be congratulating and all, but my membership was approved today, so here goes, Congrats dude. I have been following your experience closely as a Grande Punto is on my mind.
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25th July 2009, 00:01	#179
a.ashokdurai BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 36 Thanked: Once	The biggest issue with finding wheels is the PCD - Pitch Circle Diameter - this is the size of a circle drawn around the four bolt holes. Most cars (e.g. Honda, Nissan, Toyota) are 4x 100 PCD. The FIAT (and many European cars: Alfa Romeo, Renault) needs 4x 98 PCD. Make sure you ask your wheel shop about this PCD first. They may suggest 'wobbly bolts' which are bolts that have a floating spacer to cope with the mis-Alignment. It is better to have wheels with correct 98PCD though. Last edited by a.ashokdurai : 25th July 2009 at 00:03.
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