Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

jaysmokesleaves · 4th June 2010, 10:43

@ mercedised >> If the rear tire burst immediately after the front tire burst, it means that the vehicle drove over some sharp object that was capable enough of rupturing the tires and causing them to burst. I doubt it is a case of manufacturing defect. How else would you explain 2 tires on the same side bursting one after the other.

soarer · 21st June 2010, 17:01

Hi Everyone,

We recently changed our tyre on the Safari to Dunlop Grantrek AT20 (245-70 R16). They looked great until we took the it home to do a proper U turn in the car park, the driver side wheel rubs against the plastic panel.

Refer attached pics, any suggestion???

jkdas · 21st June 2010, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by soarer

Hi Everyone,

We recently changed our tyre on the Safari to Dunlop Grantrek AT20 (245-70 R16). They looked great until we took the it home to do a proper U turn in the car park, the driver side wheel rubs against the plastic panel.

Refer attached pics, any suggestion???

Wrong size and wider alloy the culprit ( negative offset?)

How much did it cost you?

Nikhilb2008 · 21st June 2010, 21:12

It's a wrong size! What did you expect

AVR · 22nd June 2010, 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by soarer

Hi Everyone,

We recently changed our tyre on the Safari to Dunlop Grantrek AT20 (245-70 R16). They looked great until we took the it home to do a proper U turn in the car park, the driver side wheel rubs against the plastic panel.

Strangely I faced this issue even when I shifted from regular Ceat Rhino's to Geolandars in stock size 235/75R15.

amitk26 · 22nd June 2010, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by soarer

Hi Everyone,

We recently changed our tyre on the Safari to Dunlop Grantrek AT20 (245-70 R16). They looked great until we took the it home to do a proper U turn in the car park, the driver side wheel rubs against the plastic panel.

Refer attached pics, any suggestion???

Incorrect offset of Alloy is the culprit and tyre size is wrong , Now if you want these alloys cut the inner lip of the mud fender where tyre rubs by 1 inch and also the body steel needs to be hammered by 1 inch.

Will try to post a picture for you here.

soarer · 22nd June 2010, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by amitk26

Incorrect offset of Alloy is the culprit and tyre size is wrong , Now if you want these alloys cut the inner lip of the mud fender where tyre rubs by 1 inch and also the body steel needs to be hammered by 1 inch.

Will try to post a picture for you here.

Hi Amitk,

Thanks for the info. I have 2 options right now.
Keep the tyre and do some modification to fit the tyre or take the tyre back to the seller and exchange it to correct size tyres.

By the way these tyre were cheap on the market Rs. 4900 a piece from Bangalore.

amitk26 · 23rd June 2010, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by soarer

Hi Amitk,

Thanks for the info. I have 2 options right now.
Keep the tyre and do some modification to fit the tyre or take the tyre back to the seller and exchange it to correct size tyres.

By the way these tyre were cheap on the market Rs. 4900 a piece from Bangalore.

In that case try the correct size tyre first but I strongly feel that this is not just tyre but also due to mismatch of offset in alloy wheel rim.

So first fix one tyre of correct size in front and rotate steering fully if that solves the problem go ahead and exchange all tyres.

soarer · 29th June 2010, 15:24

Hi Amitk26,

It took the 5 minutes to fix the issue by the tyre shop guy, he did exactly what you mentioned.

Thanks for the support.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amitk26

In that case try the correct size tyre first but I strongly feel that this is not just tyre but also due to mismatch of offset in alloy wheel rim.

So first fix one tyre of correct size in front and rotate steering fully if that solves the problem go ahead and exchange all tyres.

bj96 · 17th July 2010, 12:43

Need urgent suggestion guys

I was doing usual washing/cleaning of Safari today and noticed about a 0.5" crack on sidewall of RHS rear tyre. It is stock Bridgestone Dueller H/T tubeless. My safari has only done about 9600 kms and less than a year and half old. It isn't leaking yet as the air pressure looks ok and when I poured some water on the crack, there weren't any bubbles. The crack is not visible on a casual glance, however, when the tyre is parked on an uneven ground (side wall flexes) the crack is easily visible. I will post pic later.

What should I do? For warranty should I approach TASS/TML or Bridgestone directly? Who will be the right Bridgestone dealer in Pune to approach for this?

TIA,

-BJ

suman · 17th July 2010, 13:50

BJ, I would be pleasantly surprised if you managed to get a warranty replacement on this one, even though you may have covered less than 10k.

However, having said that, I'm not suggesting that you don't try

- I would recommend going the TASS route, especially if you have a good rapport with them

dadu · 18th July 2010, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by bj96

What should I do? For warranty should I approach TASS/TML or Bridgestone directly? Who will be the right Bridgestone dealer in Pune to approach for this?

TIA,

-BJ

The Stock tyre warranty is processed through T.A.S.S only. Before you go to them, check for any chip off's and other external physical damage/ marks, since if you can see it, Bridgestone would too and they would immediately reject it saying "Abuse". But do go for warranty.

bj96 · 20th July 2010, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by suman

... I would recommend going the TASS route...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadu

The Stock tyre warranty is processed through T.A.S.S only...

Thanks Suman and Dadu. I took my truck to TASS today. SA looked at it and said "stone damage" (expected that

), however, I insisted and showed him the LHS tyre too, which is developing a similar (hairline) crack. Then he referred me to Bridgestone service. I am meeting BS engineer tomorrow. Pls share anymore tips for passing that test. Here is a pic of the damage:

Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread-safari_tyre_1024.jpg

What surprises me is that LHS rear tyre too has a similar hairline crack (more faint) at the exact location (on U in Dueller) ?

-BJ

vijuvarghese · 20th July 2010, 19:12

BJ,

When my Michelin PP on Marina had a damage due to impact at high speed on highway by falling into a not so big gutter, it developed a bulge - the cut was internal, not visible outside. Surely not a case for considering warranty.

In your case, if it is a stone hit, there has to be some visible damage to surrounding areas or to internals. And in this case if it is indeed a hit, how did the rest of the side wall survive? What I mean is, the cut does not appear to be due to abuse.

Hope the Bridgestone guy gets convinced. All the best.

Viju

nitrous · 20th July 2010, 19:39

Please post a picture shot on a digital camera in the macro mode.

4th June 2010, 10:43	#421
jaysmokesleaves Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mostly Mumbai Posts: 1,702 Thanked: 1,452 Times	@ mercedised >> If the rear tire burst immediately after the front tire burst, it means that the vehicle drove over some sharp object that was capable enough of rupturing the tires and causing them to burst. I doubt it is a case of manufacturing defect. How else would you explain 2 tires on the same side bursting one after the other.
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21st June 2010, 17:01	#422
soarer BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 92 Thanked: 17 Times	Tyre Rubbing against body panel, Hi Everyone, We recently changed our tyre on the Safari to Dunlop Grantrek AT20 (245-70 R16). They looked great until we took the it home to do a proper U turn in the car park, the driver side wheel rubs against the plastic panel. Refer attached pics, any suggestion??? Attached Thumbnails
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Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	It's a wrong size! What did you expect
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17th July 2010, 12:43	#430
bj96 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 1,045 Thanked: 1,370 Times View My Garage	Need urgent suggestion guys I was doing usual washing/cleaning of Safari today and noticed about a 0.5" crack on sidewall of RHS rear tyre. It is stock Bridgestone Dueller H/T tubeless. My safari has only done about 9600 kms and less than a year and half old. It isn't leaking yet as the air pressure looks ok and when I poured some water on the crack, there weren't any bubbles. The crack is not visible on a casual glance, however, when the tyre is parked on an uneven ground (side wall flexes) the crack is easily visible. I will post pic later. What should I do? For warranty should I approach TASS/TML or Bridgestone directly? Who will be the right Bridgestone dealer in Pune to approach for this? TIA, -BJ
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17th July 2010, 13:50	#431
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	BJ, I would be pleasantly surprised if you managed to get a warranty replacement on this one, even though you may have covered less than 10k. However, having said that, I'm not suggesting that you don't try- I would recommend going the TASS route, especially if you have a good rapport with them
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20th July 2010, 19:12	#434
vijuvarghese BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 9 Times	My experience with hitting stone BJ, When my Michelin PP on Marina had a damage due to impact at high speed on highway by falling into a not so big gutter, it developed a bulge - the cut was internal, not visible outside. Surely not a case for considering warranty. In your case, if it is a stone hit, there has to be some visible damage to surrounding areas or to internals. And in this case if it is indeed a hit, how did the rest of the side wall survive? What I mean is, the cut does not appear to be due to abuse. Hope the Bridgestone guy gets convinced. All the best. Viju
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20th July 2010, 19:39	#435
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Please post a picture shot on a digital camera in the macro mode.
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