[IQBAL VEERJI]

Dear Team members I have become emotional while typing this as I am going to give out details of all our family vehicles right from 1960 till date.
I HAVE PRESEREVED ALL the DELIVERY NOTES OF THESE VEHICLES WITH ME All these vehicles are SOLd. If any one of you comes across any of them pleasss inform me pleasssssssss.
BMC 9020 1959 AMBASSADOR MARK1 sold on??????????????
MRZ 4242 1965 STANDARD Herald Sold on 18.01.78
MME 4154 1997 Bajaj Chetak Sold on 24.05.80
MRZ 3129 1965 Ambassador Mark2 Sold on 12.06.81
MRQ 2870 1970 Bajaj 3 wheeler sold on 26.11.81
MMI 1995 1980 Allwyan Pushpak Sold on 16.08.84
MMG 1847 1980 Ambassador Mark4 Sold on 15.04.87
MMM 7950 1984 Bajaj Super SOLD ON 23.11.87
MAS 0537 1984 2 DOOR Dolphin Car Sold on 17.02.88
MFB 8856 1986 Bajaj Super Sold on 8.4.89
MAP 9740 1985 Maruti DX Old shape Sold on 21.8.90
BLL 0142 1987 Maruti Van ACTG Sold on 10.07 91
BLF 3871 1988 Maruti 800 DX Sold on 22.11.91
MH.01.C.9550 1992 Kinetic Honda Sold on 22.07.92
BLE 6299 1990 Kinetic Honda Sold on 31.05.93
MH.02.D.6671 1994 Kinetic Honda Sold on 22.3.95
MMJ 1061 1987 Allwyan Pushpak Sold on 10.06.95
MH.02.B.3465 1990 MAHINDRA 540 DP Sold on 27.11.95
MH.04.N.8700 1994 Maruti 1000cc Sold on 2.09.97
MH.01.A.612 1990 Maruti 800 DX Sold on 29.06.98
MH.02.G.2992 1995 Kinentic Honda Sold on 16.11.98
BLF 2454 1987 Maruti Gypsy Sold on 24.03.99
MH.02.K.7770 1994 Maruti 1000cc Sold on 15.12.2000
MH.01.R.2340 1995 Maruti Esteem Sold on 20.6.01
MH.04.AA.2819 1997 Tata Sumo Sold on 28.08.01
MH.04.Y.6722 1998 Maruti Esteem VX Sold on 14.01.03
MH.01.N.9979 1995 Maruti Van Sold on 12.2.03
MH.01.U.0969 1997 Maruti Van Sold on 10.04.04
MH.04.BK.0558 2002 Honda City Sold on 15.01.04
MH.01.E.7903 1993 Bajaj Chetak Sold on 11.02.05
MH.02.AA.7620 1998 Kinetic Honda Sold on 15.02 05
MH.04.AP.9822 1999 Maruti Zen LX Sold on 30.05.05
MH.02.BA.4743 Hero Honda CD100 Sold on 31.10.05
MH.04.AF.0232 1997 RE Bullet Sold on 22.06.06
MH.02.L.3237 2001 Santro Sold on 7.6.2008
MH.04.BY.2378 2004 Maruti Omini Sold on 19.07.09

[harit]

Originally Posted by suren181

Karl, the mention of Silver Streak, made me reminisce of the 1954 Simca Aronde 9 that we LOST. Well, was bought used and sold for a sum of Rs. 9,300/- in the late 80s. The person who bought that car had turned out to be a scrapper and when I visited him after a day or so all I could see where the body parts strewn around his shop.

This car, was repainted silver, from it's orginal Metallic brown color that we got her in and had a electric bluish symbol of lightning running through the sides of the car with Silver Streak written below it.

Am attaching a few pics of the car taken from various sources on the net.

These Simca's were common in Goa. Now rarely to be seen.
Cheers harit

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by IQBAL VEERJI

MRZ 4242 1965 STANDARD Herald Sold on 18.01.78
MMI 1995 1980 Allwyan Pushpak Sold on 16.08.84
MMJ 1061 1987 Allwyan Pushpak Sold on 10.06.95

Do you have ANY old photos of any of these vehicles

Originally Posted by suren181

Karl, the mention of Silver Streak, made me reminisce of the 1954 Simca Aronde 9 that we LOST.
The person who bought that car had turned out to be a scrapper and when I visited him after a day or so all I could see where the body parts strewn around his shop.

Uh, I thought you'd told me that you had visited the place a couple of times after you sold the car, and that you did still see the car lying there before it was finally broken up? Sad ending nevertheless!

[Ripper]

Have been looking out for these Vehices. So let me know if anyone has seen any of them.

MMH 9564 '81 Premier Padmini Deluxe
GA 02 A 6924 '78 Premier Padmini Deluxe
MVF 845 '86 Bajaj KB 100
MH 15 K 8485 '98 Maruti Omni (Though does'nt qualify here)

[IQBAL VEERJI]

Originally Posted by Stanher

Do you have ANY old photos of any of these vehicles



Uh, I thought you'd told me that you had visited the place a couple of times after you sold the car, and that you did still see the car lying there before it was finally broken up? Sad ending nevertheless!

Dear Stanher It is sad that I dont have any pictures with me but it was 2 tone colourDEEP GREEN and WHITE TOP for the Herald and I had got fed up of that car with perpetual axle problems,during its ownership time I must have repaired the rear axle for unaccounted times, sometimes bolts shearing,once a mechanic even welded the cross joint with diff portion with electric welding even that welded joint broke. Once I was driving down to Mumbai from Thane and was driving at 60 kmph and suddenly the rear axle broke into two pcs and the crazed car went into uncorrectable 180 degrees turn and just saved from overturning , rear broken and seperated wheel was lying on the road with damaged rear mudguard and brake pipes twisted. that was the last I drove and finally SOLD it after my parents saw the condition of the car telling me that I am more preciouse to then then this car. You will be surprised that I had brought the car second hand in the year 1975 for mearly 3000/- and sold it for 4000/-.to some one in Bandra. After few days I went to see the car at given address and saw her lying abandoned and neglected full of dust and tree leaves on it.after few months it was gone to where I still dont know.

Originally Posted by Stanher

Do you have ANY old photos of any of these vehicles



Uh, I thought you'd told me that you had visited the place a couple of times after you sold the car, and that you did still see the car lying there before it was finally broken up? Sad ending nevertheless!

Dear Stanher. About Allwyn Pushpak I was told that these scooters both were sold to someone in HYDERABAD. thats all I know of them

[suren181]

Stanher, true, however it ultimately ended strewn around right and for the sake of not writing a whole story, I found it easier to just mention why I call it LOST.

Originally Posted by Stanher

Uh, I thought you'd told me that you had visited the place a couple of times after you sold the car, and that you did still see the car lying there before it was finally broken up? Sad ending nevertheless!

Karl, the regn. number on it was MSX 2254 IIRC. This was a nice car indeed, used to challenge friends, and had fun at the petrol bunks with people searching for the fuel inlet on this car.

Regarding how it came into India... Am not too sure... It was RHD though and wasn't in anyway altered. The color was the same as in the second picture posted. It did not have white wall tyres on it and the Tail Light lenses where repro's, made to order by my Dad at Chennai.

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by IQBAL VEERJI

Dear Stanher It is sad that I dont have any pictures with me but it was 2 tone colourDEEP GREEN and WHITE TOP for the Herald
Once I was driving down to Mumbai from Thane at 60 kmph and suddenly the rear axle broke into two pcs and the crazed car went into uncorrectable 180 degrees turn and just saved from overturning , rear broken and seperated wheel was lying on the road with damaged rear mudguard and brake pipes twisted.

Sounds like a nice colour scheme but definitely not original, ie., post '62 Heralds weren't known to have come in dual-colour schemes, all available in single colours only. So the car must have been just green originally, with the white added on the roof. Many people did do that.

Btw, sorry bu I didn't get what you meant by damaged rear mudguard- to the best of my knowledge, in the kind of accident you had, the maximum impact would have been suffered by the rear bumper valence, plus the running boards along the bottom o the sides (right or left, depending on which rear wheel came off.) For a clearer idea, please refer to the pic. with the illustrations:

You will be surprised that I had brought the car second hand in the year 1975 for mearly 3000/- and sold it for 4000/-.to some one in Bandra.

You bet that I'm surprised!! Infact even more than that! I can't imagine a Herald (even if used) could be had for as low as that in the 70s itself!!

Because they cost much more than that here in Hyd. at the same time. Which is why my father went for a '51 ford Prefect, bought at the same price (3k odd) in 1976. He said he couldnt afford any of the newer cars that were 'in the market' at the time! I suspect that cars were cheaper in metros than other cities in India? And maybe many people in Hyd. who wanted 2nd hand cars cheap then got them in from Madras (and vice-versa for those in Madras who wanted more for their cars- that's how a previous owner of my '62 Companion had brought the car from Madras and sold it here for double the price in '72!)
If only my dad had contacts in Madras/ B'bay and had instead got himself a Herald at the same price he got the Ford.....!!

[IQBAL VEERJI]

Originally Posted by Stanher

Sounds like a nice colour scheme but definitely not original, ie., post '62 Heralds weren't known to have come in dual-colour schemes, all available in single colours only. So the car must have been just green originally, with the white added on the roof. Many people did do that.

Btw, sorry bu I didn't get what you meant by damaged rear mudguard- to the best of my knowledge, in the kind of accident you had, the maximum impact would have been suffered by the rear bumper valence, plus the running boards along the bottom o the sides (right or left, depending on which rear wheel came off.) For a clearer idea, please refer to the pic. with the illustrations:

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You bet that I'm surprised!! Infact even more than that! I can't imagine a Herald (even if used) could be had for as low as that in the 70s itself!!

Because they cost much more than that here in Hyd. at the same time. Which is why my father went for a '51 ford Prefect, bought at the same price (3k odd) in 1976. He said he couldnt afford any of the newer cars that were 'in the market' at the time! I suspect that cars were cheaper in metros than other cities in India? And maybe many people in Hyd. who wanted 2nd hand cars cheap then got them in from Madras (and vice-versa for those in Madras who wanted more for their cars- that's how a previous owner of my '62 Companion had brought the car from Madras and sold it here for double the price in '72!)
If only my dad had contacts in Madras/ B'bay and had instead got himself a Herald at the same price he got the Ford.....!!

Hi Stan you are right it was bumper valance wich broke apart, and not mudguard.
Kindly tell me what could be the reason for that regular AXLE problem probably every other day. was it due to chassis or defective car at manufecture stage. Now there is another story my brother in law is a Wing Commander Retd Indian AirForce, at one time in 1979 he was posted in Pathankot and he had a mumbai regd 4 door Herald, when he was posted again to Wellington in T NADU he decided to drive down from pathankot to mumbai and stay with us for few days then drive to Wellington near OOTY. They drove to mumbai from pathankot and then to Wellington without a single puncture forget about any other problem. SAD part is that they sold that good Herald in OOTY and brought a problem porn Ambassador in Bangalore with chassis welded at number of places and smoking exhaust and diff with a whining sound. Finnally I made them sell that Ambassador and then they brought a new Maruti 800.

[sushil_n79]

Hi all

really a great thread. brings back tears in my eyes thiniking why we sold off our 1971 model fiat 1100d regd number(MBD 293)later re registered as MP04 AA3835.(Registered in Madhya Pradesh)
IF anyone knows the were abouts of the car kindly let me know.
thanks and regards
Sushil.

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by IQBAL VEERJI

Kindly tell me what could be the reason for that regular AXLE problem probably every other day. was it due to chassis or defective car at manufecture stage. Now there is another story my brother in law is a Wing Commander Retd Indian AirForce, at one time in 1979 he was posted in Pathankot and he had a mumbai regd 4 door Herald, They drove to mumbai from pathankot and then to Wellington without a single puncture forget about any other problem.

While the rear axle breaking down is common to Heralds, it is prone to breaking more often in cars that have had the rear of the chassis bent or misaligned at the joint where the rear axle sits, esp. if the car has gone over a rough spot on the road (viz. ditches, speedbreakers) with severe impact. For this the chassis would need to be "throwed" and realigned. My mech. told me of quite a few cases where they had to do it on Heralds back in the day.

But primarily I understand IT happens because of the rather flimsy 3-piece arrangement of the half-shaft flange on either side with the diff. joined with mere bolts, which couldn't withstand the vibrations caused by driving on our rough roads. On other cars with the rigid axle cum diff., it is unlikely to happen.

Originally Posted by sushil_n79

our 1971 model fiat 1100d regd number(MBD 293)later re registered as MP04 AA3835.(Registered in Madhya Pradesh)

BTW, I notice nearly all MP reg'd vehicles are re-reg'd with newer numbers despite being in MP. Would you know why it is so? Something to do with re-creation/realigning of states or such?

[manishalive]

Originally Posted by Stanher

BTW, I notice nearly all MP reg'd vehicles are re-reg'd with newer numbers despite being in MP. Would you know why it is so? Something to do with re-creation/realigning of states or such?

That's what the RTO norms is in MP and later in Chhattisgarh .

Vehicles bearing MPR, MPS, MPT, CPR, CPS, CIT etc etc were all converted to MP 23 W **** (for 4 wheelers) and MP 23 Y **** (for 2 wheelers). Furhter after seperation all Vehicles in Chhattisgarh bearing MP registration mandartorily have to get CG 04 conversion.

It's really sad on our part.

[agspins]

RTO norms in MP are literally bizarre..they don't even have relaxation for Vintage/Classic
Vehicles. Best example of it can be seen elsewhere on the forum.A single owner Ford Model A was made to re-register and even forced the owner to add stupid Indicators to the beauty...

[manishalive]

It's really sad. My 1960 select will have undergone 4 no change by the time its in Bangalore .

[tonrag]

My dad had a cream coloured 1961 Ambassador Mark 1, registered KLE 1111. He sold it in 1964 to buy his second car, an Ambassador Mark II, registered KLE 3333. I saw KLE 1111 in Trivandrum more than 20 years back - it had been painted black by then. Does she still survive?
I briefly owned a very low mileage Vauxhall Vyvern, from 1987 to 88. It was painted midnight blue. I drove it to Hyderabad and sold it there, to a gentleman named Gajraj, who used to work in the State Bank of India. Unfortunately he passed away and the car was sold on. It was registered TMZ 6056 when I owned it. I wonder if some Hyderabadi friends know where it is. I'd love to have it back.

[travancore]

Check out this site for wonderful pictures and clips of cars in India (and the Empire):
www.imagesofempire.com; and search for cars

A good source of all kinds of vintage licence plates too - most pictures have location & date identified. Be sure to check out the numerous short movie clips

I am just including a teaser (someone had mentioned a Voisin in the Nostalgic Cars in my Family thread)

pictures courtesy: imagesofempire.com




British colonist Noel Stokes sits in his Avion Voisin car as he prepares to embark on a journey along the Grand Trunk Road from Calcutta to Ranchi. Calcutta (Kolkata), India, June 1932.

So where is she today ????