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The following posts outline some thoughts and opinions of my new* Kia Sonet GTX+ 7DCT (1.0 Turbo), purchased in November 2020.
Summary of major likes and dislikes:
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(Or how we ended up booking the Sonet)
My wife and I are based in the Hubli-Dharwad area with family in Mumbai, Pune and Bangalore. Once the lock-down began, it became apparent that having a reliable and comfortable car was going to be necessary for highway duties, and the ageing Zen in our stable was just not going to cut it. Some additional requirements were:
As such we ended up squarely in the compact SUV area, and were initially looking at the usual suspects. For about two months I obsessed over TeamBHP posts, Youtube reviews and talked to friends and family trying to create a shortlist of models/variants, and creating spreadsheets to track all this info. I also compiled a "master list" of stuff to watch out for on a test drive (link later).
The Shortlist:
From the bottom, here's our initial shortlist, and reasons why contenders were rejected outright:
The cars that made it to our final "serious consideration" short-list were:
Quick note here: We started our process in Mid-October 2020, just as things were returning to "normal-ish" and demand had started picking up. Dealers were probably keen to talk to people with definite purchase plans, not to those on the fence. Nevertheless we had an excellent experience with the dealers at Tata (Manickbag Hubli), Kia (Nagashanti Hubli) Mahindra (Sutaria Hubli). Both Hyundai dealers in Hubli would barely talk to us until we were ready to pay the booking amount, and even then would dismissively tell us about 3 month waiting periods, and the online test drive request also went un-answered. Further, this also meant that it was a sellers market - so no discounts or deals were forthcoming.
The Final List:
We did fairly detailed test drives of the Venue (DCT version belonging to a friend - dealer never responded to our request for an iMT), Sonet (DCT and iMT) and Nexon (AMT only). Our findings were pretty much in line with what the Youtube reviews had said. In the end we dropped the Venue because the top DCT version had some funny misses (no rear arm rest, no rear washer/wiper) and felt a little cramped in the back and I didn't want to settle for the iMT. For a few days we went back and forth between the Nexon and Sonet:
And finally decided to spend the additional amount and go for the Sonet.
The purchasing process was a breeze - we took delivery 2 weeks after booking (could have been a little sooner if not for a delay due to some personal work), and absolutely no discounts. The main reason we paid the higher amount for the DCT was that we wanted an automatic and did not want to miss out on the 6 airbags, and moreover we were getting delivery in just a week as opposed to 3+ months for other models
In the first two weeks we or so have driven the vehicle about 200km on short local trips as we get used to the car. Here are some observations that other reviewers have missed ( in no particular order):
The front 3/4 view: arguably the best look of the Sonet:
Here is the rear 3/4 view of the Sonet:
Full Frontal. I've liked the front fascia/grill for most Kia models, this one is no exception:
On a birdwatching trip in Hessaraghatta - making full use of the high ground clearance and "SUV" claims:
His royal highness riding in the back. With the rear seat folded down it makes a nice full flat bed and the window ledge is at a nice eye-level. - I am just missing having split-folding seats:
The whole reason I did not get a sedan was to have the ability to carry bikes and other gear. There are two bikes loaded up at the moment. With front wheel off and handlebar turned, the bikes fit vertically. The fact that the rear seat does not fold flat is certainly annoying, but manageable:
The LED lights look great, the auto lights / follow-home lights are particularly useful:
Due to lockdowns and work commitments the car did just over 1000km between Jan '21 to September '21. Living on campus there was no need to commute as well - hence the ridiculously low mileage:
Finally when things had opened up in end of Sep / Oct we took a small trip into the Western Ghats with family (2 dogs included). Car performed flawlessly - and having the sunroof open while driving through the forests was a nice experience:
Continue reading xks64's review of his Kia Sonet GTX+ for BHPian comments, insights and more information.
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According to a media report, Suzuki plans to introduce a small crossover based on the next-generation Swift Sport. It could arrive by 2024.
The next-generation Suzuki Swift will be based on the updated Heartect platform. It is expected to debut sometime next year. The high-performance version called the Swift Sport is said to debut in 2023.
The Swift Sport could be powered by a 1.4-litre turbo-petrol engine paired with a 48V mild-hybrid system. The car will also feature a few chassis upgrades, including a stiffer suspension setup.
While details about the new crossover are scarce, the car could use the same 1.4-litre mild-hybrid engine as the Swift Sport, paired with Suzuki's AllGrip all-wheel-drive system.
Suzuki's new Swift-based crossover could be positioned between the Ignis and Vitara. It is still unclear if Maruti Suzuki would offer it in India.
Source: Bestcarweb
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Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
The Sonet is my top choice among all the Compact SUVs. It's got looks, style, equipment, good engines & a sorted suspension. Second choice, Nexon.
The Punch is lovely in every area, except for the one that matters the most = under the hood!!! That 1.2L NA motor is weak, the AMT is horrendous & the pricing of higher variants too much. When Tata gives it a turbo-petrol, I will consider it. Problem is, they haven't left pricing room for the turbo-petrol.
Here's what BHPian Shreyans_Jain had to say on the matter:
There is no car in this segment that is complete in all respects. They all have a catch, a compromise attached, a deal-breaker if you will. Nexon is excellent on most counts but is let down by the stupid AMT and the now optimistic pricing. Ditto for the XUV300, which has the additional handicap of a tiny boot. Sonet and Venue are cramped for space and have questionable safety. Brezza is old, feels outdated and makes do with the obsolete 4 speed AT. There is no redeeming CNG option either. I don’t think Ignis and Punch belong to this category of vehicles, they are a full segment down in all respects.
Surprisingly, it is the Kiger and Magnite that seem to provide the best overall combination of powertrains, space, features, safety and value. Granted, the cabin isn’t as well-appointed as the Venue. But the overall proposition is very good and the price tag is killer. Especially for the turbo petrol CVT.
Too bad the Ecosport has been discontinued, it would have still been my top pick otherwise.
Here's what BHPian harry10 had to say on the matter:
Voted for Sonet.
I own the D-AT one. Engine and gearbox are a gem. All required features are present and then some. Space is good enough for a 6.1 driver like me. Ergonomics are sorted, interiors are pleasing and feel roomy, handling is almost like a sedan with negligible body roll, A.S.S has been a good experience so far, looks are subjective but I like it. Mileage is between 14-16kmpl in NCR with AC and highways it can easily give 20kmpl. Also, NVH is brilliant, coming from a diesel Honda City this is super silent.
Stiff suspension is the only negative for our potholed roads, however with the right tyre pressure and once you learn to adjust your driving style it's easily negotiable. No GNCAP rating so I will give it a benefit of the doubt until it's done but I find the build quality better than my previous Honda City. Also, the thud from the doors and heavy bonnet is a little reassuring.
All in all, at 4300km ODO currently I am a very satisfied owner so far. Touchwood
My only other contender was Nexon and it would have won but for one deal-breaker - AMT gearbox. Would have surely bought it if there was a TC unit. Tata needs to sort this out as I know a lot of people who didn't buy Nexon just because of the gearbox.
Here's what BHPian amvj had to say on the matter:
I voted for the Nexon.
Pros:
- 5 star NCAP rating.
- Huge ground clearance.
- Good Diesel engine.
- Good Handling and steering.
- The interiors look decent.
- Very little niggles compared to other Tata products.
- The front three quarters look decent compared to over-styled Sonet or ugly Venue or the dull and boring Vitara Brezza.
Cons:
- Digital speedo is an eyesore. Looks like a cheap Casio watch.
- The rear design and a white stripe along the body is ugly.
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MG Motor India is gearing up to launch the Astor - a new crossover that will be positioned below the Hector. However, that's not the only small SUV that MG has in the pipeline for India.
According to a recent report, the carmaker is developing a new platform that will spawn a sub-4 meter SUV. It will compete with the likes of the Maruti Suzuki Vitara Brezza, Hyundai Venue and Tata Nexon.
The report states that MG had initially thought of re-engineering the Baojun 510 into a sub-4 meter model. But instead, the carmaker has now decided to develop a completely new platform that would serve as the base for not only a sub-4 meter SUV but also a hatchback and an MPV.
Right now, the carmaker's main focus is on expanding the production capacity at their Halol plant to 1,00,000 units per annum. This is being done to accommodate the Astor. It is said that MG will enter the sub-4 segment only after its second plant comes online.
MG's sub-4 meter crossover is expected to debut post-2023, followed by the MPV and hatchback.
Source: Autocar India
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Fiat unveiled its all-new Pulse compact-SUV earlier this year. Now, the company has released the first set of images revealing the interiors of the SUV.
The new Fiat Pulse features a clean and minimalistic cabin layout while being equipped with a host of features and equipment. The cabin of the compact SUV comes with a 7.0-inch fully digital instrument cluster, a 10.1-inch floating touchscreen infotainment system with smartphone connectivity, a 'Sport' button on the steering wheel, automatic climate control, and plenty more.
The Fiat Pulse is said to be underpinned by FCA's new MLA platform, capable of incorporating newer technologies such as 4x4 and hybrid systems in the future. The Pulse is said to be around 4 metres in length, positioning it below the Jeep Renegade in FCA's global lineup.
The compact SUV from Fiat will come powered by two engine options. These include a 1.3-litre, 4-cylinder, petrol engine producing 109 BHP and 140 Nm, paired with a 5-speed manual, as well as a 1.0-litre 3-cylinder turbo-petrol unit, churning out 120 BHP and 196 Nm, mated to a CVT transmission.
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Skoda Auto Volkswagen is planning to introduce a new sub-4-metre SUV in India. This segment contains some of the highest-selling cars in the country such as the Maruti Vitara Brezza, Hyundai Venue, Kia Sonet and Tata Nexon. The segment accounts for 15% of the overall passenger vehicle market. With 50,000 units sold a month, more than half of the utility vehicles sold in India are from this segment.
The new SUV is expected to be designed in Europe. But, Skoda plans to keep its price competitive by localising over 95% of its parts.
According to a media report, the Skoda-badged model will be India-specific and will go on sale in the second half of 2023. The vehicle is being referred to as project 2.5. At present, the company has a market share of less than 1.5%. With the new model, by 2025, Skoda is looking to increase this share to 5%. It plans to sell 50,000 units of the SUV per year.
Under its 2.0 strategy, the Volkswagen Group plans to invest more than 1 billion euros in India. The group plans to introduce a sub-compact SUV since sub-4 metre vehicles benefit from a significantly lower tax rate, compared to those greater than 4-metres in length.
Source: ET Auto
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Fiat has announced that its new compact-SUV will be called 'Pulse'. The new Fiat Pulse was unveiled earlier this year, codenamed 'Progetto 363' and is expected to go on sale in the Brazilian market later this year.
The Italian carmaker held an online public poll, allowing prospective customers to choose the name for the new SUV. Of the three names shortlisted, the 'Pulse' name won the poll with 65% of the votes. The other two names were Domo and Tuo, both of which managed just 25% and 10% of the votes, respectively.
The new Fiat Pulse is expected to be underpinned by the brand's new modular platform, called MLA. The new platform is said to be stiffer and stronger than the previous PM1 architecture. The new platform is also said to be capable of incorporating newer technologies such as hybrid and 4x4 powertrains in the future.
The company also announced that the Pulse will have a length of around 4 metres, positioning it below the Jeep Renegade SUV, in FCA's global line-up.
The Fiat Pulse will come powered by two engine options. These include a 1.3-litre four-cylinder engine producing 109 BHP and 140 Nm, paired with a 5-speed manual gearbox. The second engine is a 1.0-litre three-cylinder turbo-petrol unit churning out 120 BHP and 196 Nm, mated to a CVT transmission.
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Fiat has taken the wraps off a new crossover, codenamed Progetto 363. It will go on sale in South American markets later this year.
Fiat Brazil has shortlisted three names for the model. These include Tuo, Dumo and Pulse. The company is conducting an online poll that will decide the official name of the car.
The styling of the Progetto 363 is inspired by the Strada four-door pick-up. It features an upright front fascia with a large FIAT logo in the centre. The grille is flanked by sleek wraparound LED headlamps. The rear of the car reminds us of the Audi Q3. It has a similarly shaped rear hatch. The SUV gets black cladding around the wheel arches and dual exhausts.
The Progetto 363 shares its platform with the Fiat Argo. It will be offered with a 126 BHP 1.0-litre, direct-injection turbo-petrol engine, alongside a 1.3-litre turbo-petrol unit and a 1.3-litre naturally aspirated motor.
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Jeep is reportedly working on a new crossover codenamed Project 516. It will be positioned below the Renegade in Jeep's product line-up.
Now, according to a media report, the new model is likely to enter production in 2022. It will be based on the CMP platform that is shared with other Stellantis brands like Citroen, Peugeot, Vauxhall and DS.
Powertrains for the Project 516 crossover could be sourced from PSA. It is expected to be offered with petrol engine options at launch, with a mild-hybrid variant likely to be introduced by early 2024. The latter will have a front-wheel drive layout with an electric motor positioned between the engine and gearbox. An electric variant is also said to be in the pipeline. It could debut by 2023.
Fiat is also said to be working on a similar crossover based on the same platform. Codenamed Project 364, the crossover is expected to go into production in October 2023.
Source: Autonews
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Citroen kicked off its India operations with the launch of the C5 Aircross earlier this month. The French carmaker's second offering will be a crossover codenamed CC21. According to a media report, the new model will be unveiled on May 20, 2021.
The CC21 is part of Citroen's "C Cubed" program. The crossover will be manufactured at Citroen's manufacturing facility located at Thiruvallur, Tamil Nadu. It is expected to be launched in India around September this year. The car will also be introduced in emerging markets in North Africa and South America.
The CC21 will be based on Citroen's modular CMP platform. The SUV will feature a quirky exterior with headlamps positioned on the front bumper and slim LED daytime running lights on top.
Reports suggest that the car could be offered with a 1.2-litre, turbo-petrol engine. Transmission options might include a 5-speed manual and an automatic gearbox.
Source: Challenges