[Simple_car]

Originally Posted by Jetta_Volkmann

Hi Swift owners,

My Brother in law is about to take delivery of his new Swift Zdi in a week. He is considering to change the tyres. But he is confused of swapping it to stock size or upgrade to bigger tyres.

Requirement: comfort ride, low noise, longevity

Which option will be best bet and what are tyres available in Michellin and Yokohama. Bhpians please advice.

I would say NO to upsize.
Simply because there are no added benefits for routine travelling. In fact your efficiency may go down (in theory).

For changing the tyre brand, go for:
1. michelin and continentals for comfort and low noise.
2. most tyres last long if rotated and aligned at regular intervals. Michelins have given me a life of 60k kms, conti's I am unable to comment since I sold the car when the tyres were about 10k kms old.

Thanks,
Simple_car

[Jetta_Volkmann]

Originally Posted by Simple_car

I would say NO to upsize.
Simply because there are no added benefits for routine travelling. In fact your efficiency may go down (in theory).

Thanks Simple_car. He drives a lot, at least 100kms per day. In fact my choice is Michellin energy XM2.

[zenren]

Originally Posted by csateesh

Recently upgraded my Swift VDi to MRF ZLO 185/70 R14 !!

I see a lot of folks who have upsized to 185/70 R14. I have been trying to find the right pressure.

Tyre pressure recommended by Maruti is 32psi in front and 29psi in rear.

Source: Old gen Dzire ZDi version came in 185/70R14 tyre size and this is the recommended pressure for the same.

Originally Posted by akash_m

I have been using XM2s in my swift VXi since past 1 year. Pretty Satisfied with the performance. The correct tyre pressure for the size 185/70/R14 is 29psi & not 32 psi as mentioned above.

It is clearly mentioned on the 'sticker' you will find on the lower portion of the driver's side door of the swift!

He was asking about VDi and not VXi. Since diesel engine is heavier, Maruti recommends higher pressure for the front tyres. (36/33 for 165 and 32/29 for 185)

[csateesh]

Originally Posted by alok9345

31 should work out well for you for daily driving. Either way, do update.

Originally Posted by Simple_car

I would say NO to upsize.
Simply because there are no added benefits for routine travelling. In fact your efficiency may go down (in theory).

1. michelin and continentals for comfort and low noise.

Thanks,
Simple_car

Simple_car - The no. 1 gripe of anyone owning a Swift or any Maruti for that matter is the quality of braking due to under tired cars sold. If the person drives 100kms / day upzing will help significantly in braking

Originally Posted by zenren

Tyre pressure recommended by Maruti is 32psi in front and 29psi in rear.

Source: Old gen Dzire ZDi version came in 185/70R14 tyre size and this is the recommended pressure for the same.

He was asking about VDi and not VXi.

Swifters !!

Tyres : MRF ZLO
Size : 185/70 R14
Car : Swift VDi
Pressure : 31psi - All around

Update. Maintained 31 all around and found it to be brilliant for the bangalore pot hole filled roads !!

I used to get in and around 15kmpl earlier and the mileage in city with A/c on always has dropped to 13.5 kmpl.

I was forced to buy a good pressure gauge as most of the Nitrogen top up places in west Bangalore have terrible accuracy. Most recent being 5psi diff.

Happy swifting weekend

Cheers

[Simple_car]

Originally Posted by csateesh

Simple_car - The no. 1 gripe of anyone owning a Swift or any Maruti for that matter is the quality of braking due to under tired cars sold. If the person drives 100kms / day upzing will help significantly in braking

I am saying NO to upsizing the zdi model's tyres. The zdi anyways comes with better brakes (according to this forum) and bigger tyres.
My brother has a ritz vxi, where I have upsized myself to 195's. In his case the upsizing has really helped only in terms of better braking, nothing else.

Thanks,
Simple_car

[Herbie98]

The below is my experience on swift tyres:

My old swift (2008 Ldi) came with MRF 165/80R14, I did 27K kms on it in 11 months and always got a highway fuel efficiency of 19.5-20.5 kms with AC and cruising at 115-120 kmph. In city it used to return me around 17kmpl. The tyres were kind of ok, but a bit undersized for this excellent car. Didn't regret a lot on MRFs with regard to grip and braking, was very decent enough.

Now, last year when a close friend bought the new gen Swift LDI, it came with JK Vectras which were noisier and had lesser grip levels. So after around 500kms we upgraded it to Yokohoma A-Drives 185/70R14 mounted on the 5J steel wheels.

The difference we have observed over the past 14K kms:
- Good road grip
- Improved braking
- Road noise same as earlier, no improvement here.
- Steering is heavier which is nice, but needs continuous corrections at curves on good highways speeds. This was not the case with 165 tyres.
- Fuel efficiency drop >> Before the change while running on 165 JK tyres, the MID used to show 17kmpl in city. With the 185 Yoko A-drives, the fuel efficiency indicated in MID is 14.5kmpl. Even on highways now the MID has never registered more than 16.9 kmpl.

Tyre pressure maintainer now is 32psi at front and 30psi at rear.

Does this attribute to 185/70R14 being mounted on 5J rims?
Because on the ZDi (old one), 185/70R14 was mounted on 5.5J rims.

Experts, please share your thoughts.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by Herbie98

The below is my experience on swift tyres:

My old swift (2008 Ldi) came with MRF 165/80R14, I did 27K kms on it in 11 months and always got a highway fuel efficiency of 19.5-20.5 kms with AC and cruising at 115-120 kmph. In city it used to return me around 17kmpl. The tyres were kind of ok, but a bit undersized for this excellent car. Didn't regret a lot on MRFs with regard to grip and braking, was very decent enough.

Now, last year when a close friend bought the new gen Swift LDI, it came with JK Vectras which were noisier and had lesser grip levels. So after around 500kms we upgraded it to Yokohoma A-Drives 185/70R14 mounted on the 5J steel wheels.

The difference we have observed over the past 14K kms:
- Good road grip
- Improved braking
- Road noise same as earlier, no improvement here.
- Steering is heavier which is nice, but needs continuous corrections at curves on good highways speeds. This was not the case with 165 tyres.
- Fuel efficiency drop >> Before the change while running on 165 JK tyres, the MID used to show 17kmpl in city. With the 185 Yoko A-drives, the fuel efficiency indicated in MID is 14.5kmpl. Even on highways now the MID has never registered more than 16.9 kmpl.

Tyre pressure maintainer now is 32psi at front and 30psi at rear.

Does this attribute to 185/70R14 being mounted on 5J rims?
Because on the ZDi (old one), 185/70R14 was mounted on 5.5J rims.

Experts, please share your thoughts.

Dont believe the MID 100%. There will be a mileage drop with the wider tyres but I dont think it should be so much.

The best way to check is with the tankful to tankful method. But now that the tyres have already been changed, it's too late to check with the stock tyres.

[SaurabhSaran]

After completing 50,000 KM with stock JK tires and stock rims I upgraded to Continental ContiEcoContact 3 185/70 R14 with 10 spokes Plati alloys rims.

It was done 16 months back and from then these tires have run 24000+ KM with no regret at all.

What I observed with these new shoes for my Swift:
- Effective braking as compared to previous JK 165/70 R14
- Better grip on road and wet road as well
- Improved comfort level
- Better looks

After this upgrade, the mileage was not affected. I am still getting constant 19 KMPL in city drive and 21+ KMPL on highway with full time AC in summers and +1.5 in winters.

I maintain 33 psi on front wheels and 30 psi on rear wheels.

My feelings about this upgrade: Why I didn't get this done earlier?

[alok9345]

Originally Posted by akash_m

I have been using XM2s in my swift VXi since past 1 year. Pretty Satisfied with the performance. The correct tyre pressure for the size 185/70/R14 is 29psi & not 32 psi as mentioned above.

It is clearly mentioned on the 'sticker' you will find on the lower portion of the driver's side door of the swift!

Hi, did your VXi come with 185/70/R14 alloys? That sticker probably applies to your stock tyres which I believe were of 165/80/R14 specs.

[zenren]

Originally Posted by alok9345

Hi, did your VXi come with 185/70/R14 alloys? That sticker probably applies to your stock tyres which I believe were of 165/80/R14 specs.

Swift and Dzire ZXi/ZDi came with 185/70R14 alloys and the sticker mentions the tyre pressure for both the sizes. Here is the company spec:

LXi & VXi - 33psi (all tyres)
ZXi - 29psi (all tyres)
LDi & VDi - 36psi (front), 33psi (rear)
ZDi - 32psi (front), 29psi (rear)

[humyum]

Originally Posted by Jetta_Volkmann

Hi Swift owners,

My Brother in law is about to take delivery of his new Swift Zdi in a week. He is considering to change the tyres. But he is confused of swapping it to stock size or upgrade to bigger tyres.

Requirement: comfort ride, low noise, longevity

Which option will be best bet and what are tyres available in Michellin and Yokohama. Bhpians please advice.

Trust me on this, Don't upgrade the tyre size. 185/65/R15 is MORE than adequate for the Swift Diesel. I have been driving once since 4.5 years and 80 thousand kilometers, of course mine is the older Swift D version.

Try the Michelin XM2+ out. They are really nice.

Cheers/

[ZinFluent]

After contemplating between Yoko A drives and Michelin XM2 for days, went ahead with Michelins. Changed all 4 tyres with each tyre costing 4700 INR. Got all made in Thailand tyres with 27th week of 2013 manufacturing.

It's only been about 30kms since the change but i am already enjoying every bit of it The drive has become super silent and smooth and ofcourse the car looks much much better aesthetically too with wider tyres.

Overall pretty happy with the change as all my requirements have been well addressed with XM2s

[rahul.blr]

Originally Posted by ZinFluent

After contemplating between Yoko A drives and Michelin XM2 for days, went ahead with Michelins.
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Overall pretty happy with the change as all my requirements have been well addressed with XM2s

I just enquired from a couple of shops (Tyre Empire & Madhus) and I am being quoted 5100 for the same, with a discounted price of 4950 at max. Where did you get the tyres from? And how much did they charge for alignment and balancing?

[ZinFluent]

Originally Posted by rahul.blr

I just enquired from a couple of shops (Tyre Empire & Madhus) and I am being quoted 5100 for the same, with a discounted price of 4950 at max. Where did you get the tyres from? And how much did they charge for alignment and balancing?

Here in Nashik, I checked with multiple tyre shops and got various quotes for XM2 ranging from INR 4500 to INR 5100. INR 4500 being the oldest available stock of February 2013 which was of prime concern to me.

Eventually went with a dealer who offered July 2013 manufactured tyres at INR 4700 apiece. Didn't pay anything extra for fitting, wheel balancing or alignment as it was bundled deal after negotiations with the dealer

I am not sure about the prices in Bangalore perhaps some from Bangalore might be able to confirm this for you.

Since you are keen on XM2s, my suggestion to you would be look for a fresher stock of tyres as Michelins are imported tyres so many dealers have old stock with them and they tend to push the older stock to uninformed buyers.

[goandude]

A question for the gurus. I have an old gen Dzire VDI which came with JK tornado 165/80/14, upgraded this to Yoko A 185/70/14 and quite happy with the ride quality and grip. Then got new gen swift ZDI wheels with MRF ZVTV 185/65/15 but am very unhappy with the ride quality and grip levels. Now contemplating 195/65/15 mainly for comfort (larger sidewall height)

here is a comparo between the tyre sizes:-
165/80/14 vs 195/65/15 latter is 2.4% more dia
185/70/14 vs 195/65/15 latter is 3.24 % more dia
185/65/15 vs 195/65/15 latter is 2.09 % more dia

so is it OK to go with this size? Any swift/dzire owner running this size?