Gypsy on Steroids -- The SPoA Project. EDIT: Stage-2 Started now..

mjothi · 16th March 2009, 20:30

Wow, that was great. I think the service guys was right in mentioning if you need a Ladder

I remember seeing something similar to this in my recent visit to Thailand. The only difference I could remember is that it had a even bigger wheel protuding outside gypsy body. Sorry I have no pics.

So, now, is the front bumper coming back?

P.S. Seems Bay 15 is reservered for your Gyspy only !!

starter · 16th March 2009, 20:49

Dear Khan,
It looks awesome, head reeling stuff!! Would love to see the new setup in action.
All the best with this project and hope to see your Gypsy on its new limbs soon

(if shoes is for tyres).
Cheers,
Deepak

star_aqua · 16th March 2009, 23:12

Khan sir, just a small observation. is the steering work done or needs to be done? shouldn't the angle needs to be reduced? or else a small bump can steer the wheel either way on high speeds.

SirAlec · 17th March 2009, 00:16

hows the ride quality. Any news of the excessive body roll on highways?

dr_know · 17th March 2009, 00:29

awesome, the gypsy is looking great!!

khan_sultan · 17th March 2009, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by star_aqua

.... is the steering work done or needs to be done? shouldn't the angle needs to be reduced? or else a small bump can steer the wheel either way on high speeds.

Lots and lots of small small, but very important, work is still left. Steering, brake lines, DS spacers etc are still left to be done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirAlec

hows the ride quality. Any news of the excessive body roll on highways?

Still not complete sir. Don't know how it will be.

headers · 17th March 2009, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by khan_sultan

Thanks Vinod. It's surprising that the SPOA Gypsy did not articulate/flex. The culprit in my opinion could be the 'stock dampers' that would be used.

Shanavaz, that gypsy does not have its sway bar removed. Thats why it does not flex!

All the best!

spawnofsatan · 17th March 2009, 10:31

Hey Shahnawaz, nice Gypsy, looks great. You should drive her down to bombay for a meet like last time. It was fun.

JayD · 17th March 2009, 10:56

I must say, that is one mean looking gypsy. Any plans for putting back the bumper?? It looks kinda incomplete without it.

shyammg · 17th March 2009, 12:39

Hi Shahnawaz, Nice job with the Spoa. Now the next project should be a Winch Bumper and a 1.6 or V6 Conversion!!

Steeroid · 17th March 2009, 13:30

Looks really mean now

- an external roll-cage over the whole cabin would be really neat.

Can you get detachable stabilizer (or sway, as they call it here) bars? You dont want to be articulating with that height on a curve....

khan_sultan · 17th March 2009, 13:45

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Originally Posted by headers

Shanavaz, that gypsy does not have its sway bar removed. Thats why it does not flex!

mmmm.. I had thought of that and looked very closely at the pictures and then thought/assumed that the sway bar is removed.

If the sway bar is present, then as you mentioned, it will not flex as much.

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Originally Posted by JayD

...Any plans for putting back the bumper?? It looks kinda incomplete without it.

NO. no way a bumper is coming back again. I personally like that 'incomplete/rugged, don't mess with me mean' look without the bumper

Quote:

Originally Posted by shyammg

... Now the next project should be a Winch Bumper and a 1.6 or V6 Conversion!!

Maybe at a later stage -- both of these are way way down on my priority list right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

an external roll-cage over the whole cabin would be really neat.

Yes. sometime soon, I need to get roll cage done. Internal/external is something I have not yet decided on.

Quote:

Can you get detachable stabilizer (or sway, as they call it here) bars? You dont want to be articulating with that height on a curve....

We don't get it here. Let's see what happens without it and then will decide on next steps.

khan_sultan · 17th March 2009, 14:26

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Originally Posted by ex670c

.... In case of a Z-Link attach the Steering Stabilizer on the Diff-Tube to the Longer Drag Link aka Balance Rod/Link

...

Arka,

Is this what you are suggesting? This has the 'additional' damper from diff-tube to the longer drag link.

Looks like that I will have to go for a z-link for the short term.

Gypsy on Steroids -- The SPoA Project. EDIT: Stage-2 Started now..-z_link.jpg

ex670c · 17th March 2009, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by khan_sultan

Arka,

Is this what you are suggesting? This has the 'additional' damper from diff-tube to the longer drag link.

Looks like that I will have to go for a z-link for the short term.

Hi Shahnawaz,

The proper method of putting the Stabilizer is on the Differential Tube and the Longer Drag Link/Balance Rod as this is directly connected to the Steering Knuckles and eliminates bump steer and decreases King pin and Tyre wear.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-of...upgrade-4.html

OEM Stabilizer are fitted on the Steering Drag Link because of ease of assembly.

The Stabilizer has to be parallel to the Balance Rod on at least one Axis, for optimum performance.

Regards,

Arka

PS - have you considered a dropped pitman arm?

star_aqua · 17th March 2009, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex670c

have you considered a dropped pitman arm?

Shanawaz, this is what i was pointing to. i think that you are going according to how it has been done for jimmy/zuki in the last pic you posted. but i feel that kinda setup without dropped pitman arm will not be suitable for indian roads. if you run over a pothole, then you will see the steering drag towards left or right. I think the ball joint between the pitman arm and the steering drag link should be as nearer to the perch on the axle housing.

Arka, please correct if i am wrong!

16th March 2009, 20:30	#46
mjothi Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,290 Thanked: 233 Times View My Garage	Wow, that was great. I think the service guys was right in mentioning if you need a Ladder I remember seeing something similar to this in my recent visit to Thailand. The only difference I could remember is that it had a even bigger wheel protuding outside gypsy body. Sorry I have no pics. So, now, is the front bumper coming back? P.S. Seems Bay 15 is reservered for your Gyspy only !!
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16th March 2009, 20:49	#47
starter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: My city Posts: 1,140 Thanked: 930 Times	Dear Khan, It looks awesome, head reeling stuff!! Would love to see the new setup in action. All the best with this project and hope to see your Gypsy on its new limbs soon (if shoes is for tyres). Cheers, Deepak
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star_aqua BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: BLR Posts: 608 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	Khan sir, just a small observation. is the steering work done or needs to be done? shouldn't the angle needs to be reduced? or else a small bump can steer the wheel either way on high speeds. Attached Thumbnails
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SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,395 Thanked: 727 Times	hows the ride quality. Any news of the excessive body roll on highways?
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dr_know BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In & Out Posts: 187 Thanked: Once View My Garage	awesome, the gypsy is looking great!!
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spawnofsatan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los angeles/Mumbai Posts: 708 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	Hey Shahnawaz, nice Gypsy, looks great. You should drive her down to bombay for a meet like last time. It was fun.
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17th March 2009, 10:56	#54
JayD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cochin! At last Posts: 3,235 Thanked: 2,616 Times View My Garage	I must say, that is one mean looking gypsy. Any plans for putting back the bumper?? It looks kinda incomplete without it.
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17th March 2009, 12:39	#55
shyammg Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 23 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Shahnawaz, Nice job with the Spoa. Now the next project should be a Winch Bumper and a 1.6 or V6 Conversion!!
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Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,026 Thanked: 2,757 Times	Looks really mean now - an external roll-cage over the whole cabin would be really neat. Can you get detachable stabilizer (or sway, as they call it here) bars? You dont want to be articulating with that height on a curve.... Last edited by Steeroid : 17th March 2009 at 13:31.
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