All questions for CJ 3B

propeller · 9th December 2009, 12:31

HI,

As you all know i'm in the process of making my " BOY " into a perfect " MAN "

As of now the changes which have been done

Tyres : NDMS to MAXIS Torpedo
Rims : CJ3B to Gypsy
Axel : Ordinary to Full floating rear axel
Silencer : Replaced to new one with muffler
Engine : Servicing , Oil , diesel filter
Electricals
Brakes : CJ3B to MM5540 Brakes
TOW Rope

Please guide me as to what would be next - I'm looking at More power - better handling - Offroading - onroad also

prioritize and also add if anything in list is missing - GURUS Please help

Engine - New engine
LSD
Lockers - I do not know what is this
MM540 crown and that long rod which would make the wheel base wider and better turning radius
Power Steering
Winch set up
Tinker & paint

Regards
Propeller

docfreak · 17th December 2009, 08:51

hi propeller,
will post a reply soon.
my pc conked off , so was off line for many days.
cheers
sharat
ps. i too want to share some latest developments at my jeep end

docfreak · 23rd December 2009, 07:47

hi ,
i will try to answer ur questions, but i am no guru, i have been learning with my 3b all along.

for ur engine , if its already got a hurricane my sincere advice to u dont mess with changing it, i have mine now running well after a lot many glitches and after about 3 km running its a dream to drive, nothing is as smooth and responsive as this. it always brings a grin .......so dont swap ur engine if u have a hurricane or get one if u dont , they are available and cheap, and also cheap to repair, only the fe would vary betwen 7and 10. depending on many factors and ur intended use .

lsd wud be a good idea if u are into big time off roading . else skip it.

lockers????

power steering u dont need at all with a 3b , u can drive it thick traffic with ur little finger if ur steering coloumn is fine and ur diffs are appropriate

if anything else comes up, share it.

propeller · 23rd December 2009, 09:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by docfreak

hi ,

if anything else comes up, share it.

HI Doc -

Too many things done - Changing of diif crown , diesel pump , diesel filter assembly , diesel tank , diesel tube , brake tubes ( new ones ) as the old ones not bale to handle the power after change of pump and diff ration.

Also changing the airfilter . Engine will not be changed .

Free wheel hubs is next as i need milage and speed on long distance travel.

My vehicle does a good wheel spin and AIMING for wheeling very soon.

docfreak · 24th December 2009, 08:06

reason for change of diff crown?
i too am planning to change diff ratios in my stock jeep as i desire a higher top speed .

which diesel engine do u have?
what fe are u getting?

free wheeling hubs have made a difference in my jeep, its a good add on

harjeev · 24th December 2009, 09:54

I would like to know the option of installinig a MM550 LSD in the CJ3B rear diff.

Will any modification's need to be done for that or is it bolt on?
DO I need to change the rear axles?
Experts please advise

docfreak · 25th December 2009, 23:20

hi harjeev ,
why do u wish to change the rear diff.?
when did u buy the gypsy?? planning to make jeep house??lol

propeller · 28th December 2009, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by docfreak

reason for change of diff crown?
i too am planning to change diff ratios in my stock jeep as i desire a higher top speed .

which diesel engine do u have?
what fe are u getting?

free wheeling hubs have made a difference in my jeep, its a good add on

Reason for crown - More power for OTR - for mud drives

Lower crown ration will bring down the speed but increase the power .

Peugeot engine - 10 to 12 KMPL

Sure

i'll be doing it before Bangalore OTR

docfreak · 9th February 2010, 15:18

finally attaching some pyctures of my jeep.

docfreak · 9th February 2010, 15:27

well today i have finally uploaded some pictures,

some more new fresh questions:

can an aircon be fitted in a 3b with a isuzu engine?
where would the condensor go? and how to make a soft top aircon friendly with all its wide openings in a 3b.

is there a beeding that goes under the hood and between the side aprons of the bay? as my hood vibrates a lot at these edges , while there is a beeding of cotton tape at the front end none on the sides.

how can i make my wipers effective?

i deviced a ammo box to be fitted between the two front seats and its a boon to carry small things.
the next things on are to fix an aircon(after a engine swap to isuzu from my current hurricane) and to change my ndms tyres. and then to make my softtop into a two seater version.

please adress my queries, gurus?????

renegade · 11th February 2010, 20:58

Why do you want to replace the hurricane?if you need an ac,drive a car mate,i think you should let the 3b the way it is,what gearbox are planning on to plonk inside with the isuzu engine?

docfreak · 18th February 2010, 11:37

hi mandeep,
i use my jeep on a daily basis and so the need for an ac also to take it out of town , i would need one.
the car is an alternate i am planning to dispose off , so thats how.

yamaniac · 18th February 2010, 11:42

You actually do not need a spray paint machine to paint your jeep.. A normal vacum cleaner with a sprayer would suffice. The outcome and quality is great and seamless.

Kandisa · 18th February 2010, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by docfreak

....can an aircon be fitted in a 3b with a isuzu engine?.....
.....the next things on are to fix an aircon(after a engine swap to isuzu from my current hurricane) and to change my ndms tyres.......

OOps thats a news. So have you finalized the idea of an engine swap? I thought you would stick to Hurricane for a 'true jeep feeling'...

You can go through GTO's thread for more info on making the AC effective in a soft top. His probably is the only example of such an effective aircon in a soft top jeep! And i guess an AC can be fitted with Isuzu...thats one of the many advantages (for a rookie like me the Isuzu has various other advantages). Though how to make it happen in a SWB open top jeep is probably a matter of skill.

Quote:

......i deviced a ammo box to be fitted between the two front seats and its a boon to carry small things......

Good addition. For an open jeep this type of accessories provide the much needed safe storage space. Mandeep is planning something similar to go in our jeep in near future.

docfreak · 22nd February 2010, 17:12

hi soumen ,
for sure i will miss the true jeep feel, the thought itself putts me off, but then practicality is taking its toll on me too.
had a tough time sourcing some spares of late .
saw ur jeep at clasic when u had sent it after ur trip.

9th December 2009, 12:31	#61
propeller BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: INVERCARGILL - Land For Speed Posts: 100 Thanked: 2 Times	What Next ? HI, As you all know i'm in the process of making my " BOY " into a perfect " MAN " As of now the changes which have been done Tyres : NDMS to MAXIS Torpedo Rims : CJ3B to Gypsy Axel : Ordinary to Full floating rear axel Silencer : Replaced to new one with muffler Engine : Servicing , Oil , diesel filter Electricals Brakes : CJ3B to MM5540 Brakes TOW Rope Please guide me as to what would be next - I'm looking at More power - better handling - Offroading - onroad also prioritize and also add if anything in list is missing - GURUS Please help Engine - New engine LSD Lockers - I do not know what is this MM540 crown and that long rod which would make the wheel base wider and better turning radius Power Steering Winch set up Tinker & paint Regards Propeller
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17th December 2009, 08:51	#62
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	hi propeller, will post a reply soon. my pc conked off , so was off line for many days. cheers sharat ps. i too want to share some latest developments at my jeep end
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23rd December 2009, 07:47	#63
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	hi , i will try to answer ur questions, but i am no guru, i have been learning with my 3b all along. for ur engine , if its already got a hurricane my sincere advice to u dont mess with changing it, i have mine now running well after a lot many glitches and after about 3 km running its a dream to drive, nothing is as smooth and responsive as this. it always brings a grin .......so dont swap ur engine if u have a hurricane or get one if u dont , they are available and cheap, and also cheap to repair, only the fe would vary betwen 7and 10. depending on many factors and ur intended use . lsd wud be a good idea if u are into big time off roading . else skip it. lockers???? power steering u dont need at all with a 3b , u can drive it thick traffic with ur little finger if ur steering coloumn is fine and ur diffs are appropriate if anything else comes up, share it.
	() Thanks

24th December 2009, 08:06	#65
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	reason for change of diff crown? i too am planning to change diff ratios in my stock jeep as i desire a higher top speed . which diesel engine do u have? what fe are u getting? free wheeling hubs have made a difference in my jeep, its a good add on
	() Thanks

24th December 2009, 09:54	#66
harjeev Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,899 Thanked: 292 Times View My Garage	I would like to know the option of installinig a MM550 LSD in the CJ3B rear diff. Will any modification's need to be done for that or is it bolt on? DO I need to change the rear axles? Experts please advise
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25th December 2009, 23:20	#67
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	hi harjeev , why do u wish to change the rear diff.? when did u buy the gypsy?? planning to make jeep house??lol
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9th February 2010, 15:18	#69
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	finally attaching some pyctures of my jeep. Attached Thumbnails
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9th February 2010, 15:27	#70
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	well today i have finally uploaded some pictures, some more new fresh questions: can an aircon be fitted in a 3b with a isuzu engine? where would the condensor go? and how to make a soft top aircon friendly with all its wide openings in a 3b. is there a beeding that goes under the hood and between the side aprons of the bay? as my hood vibrates a lot at these edges , while there is a beeding of cotton tape at the front end none on the sides. how can i make my wipers effective? i deviced a ammo box to be fitted between the two front seats and its a boon to carry small things. the next things on are to fix an aircon(after a engine swap to isuzu from my current hurricane) and to change my ndms tyres. and then to make my softtop into a two seater version. please adress my queries, gurus?????
	() Thanks

11th February 2010, 20:58	#71
renegade BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NEW DELHI Posts: 184 Thanked: 43 Times View My Garage	Why do you want to replace the hurricane?if you need an ac,drive a car mate,i think you should let the 3b the way it is,what gearbox are planning on to plonk inside with the isuzu engine?
	() Thanks

18th February 2010, 11:37	#72
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	hi mandeep, i use my jeep on a daily basis and so the need for an ac also to take it out of town , i would need one. the car is an alternate i am planning to dispose off , so thats how.
	() Thanks

18th February 2010, 11:42	#73
yamaniac BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mangalore Posts: 283 Thanked: 270 Times View My Garage	You actually do not need a spray paint machine to paint your jeep.. A normal vacum cleaner with a sprayer would suffice. The outcome and quality is great and seamless.
	() Thanks

22nd February 2010, 17:12	#75
docfreak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 252 Thanked: 8 Times	hi soumen , for sure i will miss the true jeep feel, the thought itself putts me off, but then practicality is taking its toll on me too. had a tough time sourcing some spares of late . saw ur jeep at clasic when u had sent it after ur trip.
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