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Originally Posted by moralfibre 1) Entry level comps surely sound better than OE speakers. Atleast JBL, Illusion, etc do. I have heard both and can confirm this with eyes closed in a demo car with OE speakers in one and the brands mentioned in other. Could be possible that Dhoom and all sound similar to OE. |
i agree here with you. however, in certain cars, the OE is good and there is not a huge difference you'd get by upgrading. mind you, you are spending the entire amount of the purchase for an upgrade... it's not like you don't have a system, and are buying a new one.
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Originally Posted by moralfibre 2) Do you really think a car would require damping (worth 12k) with OE speakers? |
for an innova it would be a huge benefit. the civic and accord will benefit, though by a lesser degree.
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Originally Posted by moralfibre 3) Which companies make VFM pre-amped base boxes? |
almost all of them. though availability as of now is an issue. fr JBL Basslink II, Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood, Audiobahn, Soomoku.
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Originally Posted by moralfibre I am badly confused. Would be very helpful if you could take a minute and read your posts. Are you trying to amp OE speakers or something and found it better? |
no. i meant unless you want to put an amp, it's not worthwhile changing the OEs of these cars to entry level comps/coax. you will get a better sound quality by simply adding the base thingy and damping the doors. later on, if you intend to upgrade, then do so with an amp.
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Originally Posted by moralfibre What is acoustics got to do with putting a Rs. 15k system in the Innova. |
it's got to do with the fact that whatever you may say of the speaker quality etc., the civic, the accord and the toyota (2din set) sound good. not worthwhile changing speakers... unless u gonna amp them. i agree to disagree with you and many others here who represent brands and who do not. if you show me a civic with entry level speakers and tell me you spent 12k on that, i would never pay 12k for that small 'difference'.
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Originally Posted by moralfibre With all due respect and concern for time taken by members to post, I'd request you to take some time off and go through a very well required thread here. I know you didn't ask for it but still. |
i have gone thru most of yeti's guides. i love the one on air travel. and i simply adore the way he's described his experiences of dhakkan airline. and if you know my profession, you'll probably get the shock of your life. coming to think of it, i wonder how come i survived. :-)
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Originally Posted by speedzak I'm completely knocked off now.
What are you trying to put forward, Monty? Once sentence you say OE speakers are better than the entry level comps. Then in another you say, it's the acoustics which play a big role and that's the reason OE speakers sounds good. Or I misunderstood something.
What do you vouch in an Accord? Please don't tell me you like the sound. It's one of the worst. Maybe for you it sounds better than an Elantra system. Not that Elantra system is very good! But it sounds very good for an OE system. |
i never said OE speakers are better than entry level comps. i only said the exchange is not worthwhile for the amount unless one plans a full upgrade with an amp.
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Originally Posted by speedzak If a person is not changing the OE speakers, why should he spend money on damping? Why should he buy an amp? |
if you sit in an innova with damping, you'll realise why a person not wanting to listen to music should also spend on it. regards the amp, there seems to be some confusion. he needs an amp only if he wants a full upgrade. why otherwise?
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Originally Posted by speedzak BTW, I told my driver to check the HU in Innova. He says it has some unknown name behind and it is not an Alpine. |
neither did i expect an alpine sticker on it. if it was so obvious, there'd be no debate at all. i remember having read this somewhere. unfortunately i haven't saved it. or i could also be mistaken. the HU now looks more and more like a becker to me. but also, the design is a pretty standard one. so could be anyone.
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Originally Posted by speedzak We're not offending you in any kind. Just trying to understand your views of ICE. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, right? |
yes dear, i absolutely agree with you. i haven't taken any offense, i'm really sorry if any of my posts have given that suggestion.
if there's any more confusion, i think it's better we discuss this at a meet or online or on the phone.