Best component speaker?

raj_5004 · 13th December 2008, 12:42

this 3 way component speakers was really confusing me! so i did a quick google search to look for some pics, i found this-

now i assume the comp marked with red are the woofers mounted on the doors, the ones marked with yellow are the tweeters mounted near the A pillar, the ones marked with green are the crossovers and the one marked with blue is the midrange. am i right?

now where are these crossovers and midrange mounted?

raj_5004 · 13th December 2008, 12:50

ok, got it perfectly, read your latest post after i posted the one above!
thanks a lot.
i am planning to upgrade the speakers, i am happy with the basstube.
hence all these doubts, thanks a lot.
i rarely use the rear seat in my scorpio, hence 6x9 co-axials will do i think. for the front, i dont want to mess the dashboard, hence a 2 way component with tweeters on the A pillar will do.

i am planning the following upgrades in that sequence (as and when i save money!):

1) changing the HU
2) replacing the front kenwood speakers with JBL 2 way comp as i said.
3) replacing rear sony co-ax with 6x9 JBL co-ax on the speaker boxes
4) adding a mono amp for the basstube and using the current 4 ch amp for the front and rear speakers.

phew!

greenhorn · 13th December 2008, 12:59

since you are happy with the bass tube, why add a mono for it ? since the rear seats are not used much, the HU will do quite fine for the rears. using a mono for a bass tube is serious overkill. upgrade the sub before you upgrade the amp
PS: which HU do you have ?

raj_5004 · 13th December 2008, 13:09

i have the standard nippon HU which comes with the scorpio. it does not have a sub o/p. i feel the mono amp may be better for the basstube. now i have a 4 ch amp and i am running the rear speakers and the basstube with the amp. more bass wont hurt!
also now since only the rear speakers are running through the amp, the front ones can hardly be heard!

hey greenhorn, in the above pic of the 3 way comp,in this page- can you tell me what are the blue and the yellow ones?

greenhorn · 13th December 2008, 13:24

amp the fronts and run the rears off the HU.

the blue and yellow seem to be the same, the blue one seems to be the mid and tweeter installed on some sort of silver thingy that probably comes with it to aid mounting

raj_5004 · 13th December 2008, 14:18

ohh, thats cool. if i get such a set i can easily go for the 3 way comp and fix that silver thing with the mid and tweeter on the A pillar.

yes, i will amp the front after upgrading to JBL speakers. and run the rear co-ax through HU. will the 2 bridged channels be enough for the basstube? wont a mono amp give better performance?

greenhorn · 13th December 2008, 16:13

nope, the mid will still need an enclosure. you cant hang it in mid air. the thingy shown might be for the case where a custom pod might be facbricated for both the mid and the tweeter. Either way, you cant mount the mid on the A pillar like you would a tweeter.

the point is , the bass tube is the limitation. its like asking , will the scorpio engine be enough for my m800, I'm quite satisfied with my m800.
Either get a biggger/better sub, or a 2 channel amp. monobloc+ bass tube is like a scorpio engined m800

raj_5004 · 13th December 2008, 16:42

ok, then instead of the mono amp, i'll buy a 2 ch amp for tha basstube and use the current 4 ch amp for the front as well as rear speakers. for the front, a 2 way comp will do. for rear, 3 way 6x9 co-ax...
is that fine?
will save on costs too!

greenhorn · 13th December 2008, 17:02

provided you dont want any more bass, this should do fine. get 6x9's only if the boxes you already have are for 6x9's else get whatever size the boxes fit

superbhikari · 26th January 2009, 01:17

Can anyone give the comparative review of JBL GTO607c and Illusion Electra El6.1?

superbhikari · 8th February 2009, 01:44

Just saw the following component model at indiajbl.com Can anybody comment on performance. difference with 608c and price?
Model : JBL C608GTi MKII

abhibh · 8th February 2009, 04:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by superbhikari

Just saw the following component model at indiajbl.com Can anybody comment on performance. difference with 608c and price?
Model : JBL C608GTi MKII

Dude they are totally different speakers. 608C is entry level compos. GTi on the other hand must be twice the price, not sure though.

I have heard C608GTi and its midbass is very very good. Awesome kick, but unfortunately tweet and midrange was not according to my taste.

frankmehta · 8th February 2009, 10:58

I'm holidaying right now, so no access to the computer. But i have seen the gti anniversary series selling for $900 i think :-)

sam_sant2005 · 5th July 2010, 14:55

Pretty old thread but I needed a clarification on a Component Speakers installation for my new Swift.

Iam taking a new Pioneer DEH 5250SD HU.

I have with me Rear jbl oval speakers, 2-channel amp and a 12" jbl bass tube from my old car.

For new car Iam looking at Hertz component speakers (or another suitable one. i want chilling effect - trebble). Can someone please let me know if its ok to drive this directly from the HU itself without amp? Or for decent performance do i need to buy another 2 channel amplifier just to drive the comp speakers??

Finally, since I already have a 2-channel amp (for sub woofer), is it ok with having another 2-channel amp (for comp speakers) OR should I dispose the current amp and get a new 4-channel amp?

Please suggest.

DerAlte · 5th July 2010, 19:17

Which new car? Which 2 channel amp do you have?

IMHO you should get a 4 channel amp, and drive the front components and sub through it. The 4 channel amp is not going to be substantially costlier than a new 2 channel amp. The ovals in the rear can be driven off the HU. It will be easier to tune the system this way, rather than all speakers off HU and sub on amp.

If you don't want to discard the 2 channel amp, continue using it for the sub and put the rear ovals on the 4 channel amp.

13th December 2008, 12:42	#136
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	this 3 way component speakers was really confusing me! so i did a quick google search to look for some pics, i found this- now i assume the comp marked with red are the woofers mounted on the doors, the ones marked with yellow are the tweeters mounted near the A pillar, the ones marked with green are the crossovers and the one marked with blue is the midrange. am i right? now where are these crossovers and midrange mounted? Attached Thumbnails
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13th December 2008, 12:50	#137
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	ok, got it perfectly, read your latest post after i posted the one above! thanks a lot. i am planning to upgrade the speakers, i am happy with the basstube. hence all these doubts, thanks a lot. i rarely use the rear seat in my scorpio, hence 6x9 co-axials will do i think. for the front, i dont want to mess the dashboard, hence a 2 way component with tweeters on the A pillar will do. i am planning the following upgrades in that sequence (as and when i save money!): 1) changing the HU 2) replacing the front kenwood speakers with JBL 2 way comp as i said. 3) replacing rear sony co-ax with 6x9 JBL co-ax on the speaker boxes 4) adding a mono amp for the basstube and using the current 4 ch amp for the front and rear speakers. phew!
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13th December 2008, 12:59	#138
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,746 Thanked: 4,403 Times View My Garage	since you are happy with the bass tube, why add a mono for it ? since the rear seats are not used much, the HU will do quite fine for the rears. using a mono for a bass tube is serious overkill. upgrade the sub before you upgrade the amp PS: which HU do you have ?
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13th December 2008, 13:09	#139
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	i have the standard nippon HU which comes with the scorpio. it does not have a sub o/p. i feel the mono amp may be better for the basstube. now i have a 4 ch amp and i am running the rear speakers and the basstube with the amp. more bass wont hurt! also now since only the rear speakers are running through the amp, the front ones can hardly be heard! hey greenhorn, in the above pic of the 3 way comp,in this page- can you tell me what are the blue and the yellow ones? Last edited by raj_5004 : 13th December 2008 at 13:16.
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13th December 2008, 13:24	#140
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,746 Thanked: 4,403 Times View My Garage	amp the fronts and run the rears off the HU. the blue and yellow seem to be the same, the blue one seems to be the mid and tweeter installed on some sort of silver thingy that probably comes with it to aid mounting
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13th December 2008, 14:18	#141
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	ohh, thats cool. if i get such a set i can easily go for the 3 way comp and fix that silver thing with the mid and tweeter on the A pillar. yes, i will amp the front after upgrading to JBL speakers. and run the rear co-ax through HU. will the 2 bridged channels be enough for the basstube? wont a mono amp give better performance?
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13th December 2008, 16:13	#142
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,746 Thanked: 4,403 Times View My Garage	nope, the mid will still need an enclosure. you cant hang it in mid air. the thingy shown might be for the case where a custom pod might be facbricated for both the mid and the tweeter. Either way, you cant mount the mid on the A pillar like you would a tweeter. the point is , the bass tube is the limitation. its like asking , will the scorpio engine be enough for my m800, I'm quite satisfied with my m800. Either get a biggger/better sub, or a 2 channel amp. monobloc+ bass tube is like a scorpio engined m800
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13th December 2008, 16:42	#143
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	ok, then instead of the mono amp, i'll buy a 2 ch amp for tha basstube and use the current 4 ch amp for the front as well as rear speakers. for the front, a 2 way comp will do. for rear, 3 way 6x9 co-ax... is that fine? will save on costs too! Last edited by raj_5004 : 13th December 2008 at 16:44.
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13th December 2008, 17:02	#144
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,746 Thanked: 4,403 Times View My Garage	provided you dont want any more bass, this should do fine. get 6x9's only if the boxes you already have are for 6x9's else get whatever size the boxes fit
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26th January 2009, 01:17	#145
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	Can anyone give the comparative review of JBL GTO607c and Illusion Electra El6.1?
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8th February 2009, 01:44	#146
superbhikari BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Muzaffarnagar Posts: 465 Thanked: 228 Times	Just saw the following component model at indiajbl.com Can anybody comment on performance. difference with 608c and price? Model : JBL C608GTi MKII
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8th February 2009, 10:58	#148
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	I'm holidaying right now, so no access to the computer. But i have seen the gti anniversary series selling for $900 i think :-)
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5th July 2010, 14:55	#149
sam_sant2005 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 531 Thanked: 274 Times	Pretty old thread but I needed a clarification on a Component Speakers installation for my new Swift. Iam taking a new Pioneer DEH 5250SD HU. I have with me Rear jbl oval speakers, 2-channel amp and a 12" jbl bass tube from my old car. For new car Iam looking at Hertz component speakers (or another suitable one. i want chilling effect - trebble). Can someone please let me know if its ok to drive this directly from the HU itself without amp? Or for decent performance do i need to buy another 2 channel amplifier just to drive the comp speakers?? Finally, since I already have a 2-channel amp (for sub woofer), is it ok with having another 2-channel amp (for comp speakers) OR should I dispose the current amp and get a new 4-channel amp? Please suggest.
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5th July 2010, 19:17	#150
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,069 Thanked: 2,919 Times	Which new car? Which 2 channel amp do you have? IMHO you should get a 4 channel amp, and drive the front components and sub through it. The 4 channel amp is not going to be substantially costlier than a new 2 channel amp. The ovals in the rear can be driven off the HU. It will be easier to tune the system this way, rather than all speakers off HU and sub on amp. If you don't want to discard the 2 channel amp, continue using it for the sub and put the rear ovals on the 4 channel amp.
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