ICE Upgrade in Hydra's Hatch II (Swift Zxi) - Alpine, Image Dynamics, TRU Tech

m4ugr8 · 11th April 2009, 11:08

Congrats on the splendid upgrade Hydra, I am sure iDQ is now getting all the power it needs. A very good upgrade indeed.

One question how much power is the sub getting now from the S500?

karankapoor · 11th April 2009, 12:22

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Originally Posted by m4ugr8

Congrats on the splendid upgrade Hydra, I am sure iDQ is now getting all the power it needs. A very good upgrade indeed.

One question how much power is the sub getting now from the S500?

oh hooo see woes asking this qus.

it is wired @ 4Ω and getting 325wrms and will be sounding great.

muneemmk · 11th April 2009, 13:57

The Before and After auditions in hydra's car is jaw dropping , it could be used as a reference to why a monoblock is needed in a car, the lower frequency comes in real fast and tight and unbelievably controlled ,well this is the best setup I have ever heard so I don't know anything else to compare it with.

hydrashok · 11th April 2009, 20:45

Thank you, Manan! As KK said, it is wired at 4Ω and feeding the sub 325w RMS. And yes, it is sounding great!

Thank you, Muneem!

karankapoor · 11th April 2009, 21:33

hydra,what is the next upgrade coming up,a ssld6I.

muneemmk · 11th April 2009, 21:58

SSLD and even a HU change, now the only question is when ?

karankapoor · 11th April 2009, 22:06

i think first ssld6i > sub > and then a HU.

phamilyman · 11th April 2009, 23:13

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Originally Posted by hydrashok

Thank you, Hitanshu! Good to know somebody related to my philosophy.

I wish my work would let me drive as much as you do *jealous*. I'd get more time to enjoy the ICE too!

Oh no boss

My work keeps me busy 6 days outta 7, and for two full months I worked full Sundays. But given the first chance, I was out on the highways.

Its the same philosophy - one less movie/social function, one more weekend trip whenever/wherever I can manage.

hydrashok · 13th April 2009, 19:33

@KK & muneem, upgrade plans are kinda hazy right now. Right now I'm happy. I'll have to start getting unhappy with something before an upgrade is planned.

A HU upgrade is definitely on the cards somewhere in the distant future. The 9887 is right now (somewhat reasonably) filling a void that is looking for the right candidate to fill. An SSLDi6 I do lust for, but then the need for one is lesser than the need for a good HU. (An SSLDi6 + another 3 pairs of RCAs is more than halfway the price of a good HU.) The sub I'm still happy with so that may not get upgraded at all.

I don't want to upgrade something just for the sake of changing the equipment. No upgrades for another 6-8 months, that is for sure.

Gill · 15th May 2009, 20:57

Anup, Why did you opt for A-pillar location for tweeters?
Are they firing at each other or to the middle of dash?

hydrashok · 4th July 2009, 16:49

@gill, sorry for the late reply

I did not see this post earlier.

I found the A-Pillar location to be the best compromise, considering the following:
- The size of the tweeters (and the space needed to house them).
- The approximate height I needed them to be at.
- An FG pod on the Sail panel was not an option for me (for various non-ICE reasons). I would have preferred this location, but for the uh, "reasons". ;-)
- I wanted maximum protection for the tweeters (a door location would expose them to rain - we a lot of rain here in the south, and my Dad who drives the car occasionally does not have compunctions about exposing an open door to the rain for more longer than really necessary).

The current location of the tweeters does not compromise the sound/imaging/stage so much so that it is to be avoided altogether. The tweeters integrate very well with the midbass with the appropriate XO settings and from the driver's seat, the sound does not seem to originate from them.

Folks, though a bit late, I'm posting a few higher res pics of the ICE, taken with a proper cam (P&S) and not a Mobile Phone, as promised earlier. Please excuse the dust and dirt in the car.

Gill-saab, the first pic will give you a better idea of how the tweeters have been placed.

Alpine 9887 and Tweeters from the ID XS65 comp set

ICE Upgrade in Hydra's Hatch II (Swift Zxi) - Alpine, Image Dynamics, TRU Tech-dash.jpg

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Midbasses from the ID XS65 comp set

ICE Upgrade in Hydra's Hatch II (Swift Zxi) - Alpine, Image Dynamics, TRU Tech-idxs_1.jpg

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TRU S44

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TRU S500

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Image Dynamics IDQ12 D2V2

ICE Upgrade in Hydra's Hatch II (Swift Zxi) - Alpine, Image Dynamics, TRU Tech-idq_1.jpg

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The Boot

ICE Upgrade in Hydra's Hatch II (Swift Zxi) - Alpine, Image Dynamics, TRU Tech-boot_1.jpg

karankapoor · 4th July 2009, 18:14

Nice pics hydra, What is on the wall where the boot lids closes looks like a neon to me, If yes then post some more pics with it.

Flying Bong · 4th July 2009, 18:19

Very nice

What crossover point, slope and tweeter levels are you using?

low_bass_makker · 6th July 2009, 18:28

Hydra you might be very happy with the tweeter location you are having but you are missing a lot. Try the fiber glass in the current location you would see a difference of day and night. Since I also used to have them in the same location but now changed. And I am loving it.

akbaree · 6th July 2009, 18:41

The whole installation is looking very neat. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

I believe there's a wooden plate on which you have fitted the amplifiers. How has the wooden plate fixed to car's body?

11th April 2009, 11:08	#211
m4ugr8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,290 Thanked: 129 Times View My Garage	Congrats on the splendid upgrade Hydra, I am sure iDQ is now getting all the power it needs. A very good upgrade indeed. One question how much power is the sub getting now from the S500?
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11th April 2009, 13:57	#213
muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	The Before and After auditions in hydra's car is jaw dropping , it could be used as a reference to why a monoblock is needed in a car, the lower frequency comes in real fast and tight and unbelievably controlled ,well this is the best setup I have ever heard so I don't know anything else to compare it with.
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11th April 2009, 20:45	#214
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Thank you, Manan! As KK said, it is wired at 4Ω and feeding the sub 325w RMS. And yes, it is sounding great! Thank you, Muneem!
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11th April 2009, 21:33	#215
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 6 Times	hydra,what is the next upgrade coming up,a ssld6I.
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11th April 2009, 21:58	#216
muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	SSLD and even a HU change, now the only question is when ?
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11th April 2009, 22:06	#217
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 6 Times	i think first ssld6i > sub > and then a HU.
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13th April 2009, 19:33	#219
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	@KK & muneem, upgrade plans are kinda hazy right now. Right now I'm happy. I'll have to start getting unhappy with something before an upgrade is planned. A HU upgrade is definitely on the cards somewhere in the distant future. The 9887 is right now (somewhat reasonably) filling a void that is looking for the right candidate to fill. An SSLDi6 I do lust for, but then the need for one is lesser than the need for a good HU. (An SSLDi6 + another 3 pairs of RCAs is more than halfway the price of a good HU.) The sub I'm still happy with so that may not get upgraded at all. I don't want to upgrade something just for the sake of changing the equipment. No upgrades for another 6-8 months, that is for sure.
	() Thanks

15th May 2009, 20:57	#220
Gill BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohali Posts: 701 Thanked: 16 Times	Anup, Why did you opt for A-pillar location for tweeters? Are they firing at each other or to the middle of dash?
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4th July 2009, 16:49	#221
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	@gill, sorry for the late reply I did not see this post earlier. I found the A-Pillar location to be the best compromise, considering the following: - The size of the tweeters (and the space needed to house them). - The approximate height I needed them to be at. - An FG pod on the Sail panel was not an option for me (for various non-ICE reasons). I would have preferred this location, but for the uh, "reasons". ;-) - I wanted maximum protection for the tweeters (a door location would expose them to rain - we a lot of rain here in the south, and my Dad who drives the car occasionally does not have compunctions about exposing an open door to the rain for more longer than really necessary). The current location of the tweeters does not compromise the sound/imaging/stage so much so that it is to be avoided altogether. The tweeters integrate very well with the midbass with the appropriate XO settings and from the driver's seat, the sound does not seem to originate from them. Folks, though a bit late, I'm posting a few higher res pics of the ICE, taken with a proper cam (P&S) and not a Mobile Phone, as promised earlier. Please excuse the dust and dirt in the car. Gill-saab, the first pic will give you a better idea of how the tweeters have been placed. Alpine 9887 and Tweeters from the ID XS65 comp set .. Midbasses from the ID XS65 comp set .. TRU S44 .. TRU S500 .. Image Dynamics IDQ12 D2V2 .. The Boot Last edited by hydrashok : 4th July 2009 at 16:51.
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4th July 2009, 18:14	#222
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 6 Times	Nice pics hydra, What is on the wall where the boot lids closes looks like a neon to me, If yes then post some more pics with it.
	() Thanks

4th July 2009, 18:19	#223
Flying Bong BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 271 Thanked: 3 Times	Very nice What crossover point, slope and tweeter levels are you using?
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6th July 2009, 18:28	#224
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	Hydra you might be very happy with the tweeter location you are having but you are missing a lot. Try the fiber glass in the current location you would see a difference of day and night. Since I also used to have them in the same location but now changed. And I am loving it.
	() Thanks

6th July 2009, 18:41	#225
akbaree BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 613 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	The whole installation is looking very neat. Thanks for sharing the pictures. I believe there's a wooden plate on which you have fitted the amplifiers. How has the wooden plate fixed to car's body?
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