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navin · 17th December 2008, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariendj

if 947 is brighter then whats its difference with the 937??i think 937 is brighter than 938!!
btw one help please,could any of you tell me the prices of 937 ,947 and 938!!
i was quoted 4.5k for 938!!

the chronology as I understand it
The 937 was discontinued.
The 938 was introduced.
many in India prefered the discontined 937's bright sound so the 947 was introduced to cater to this audience.

drvhplyevraftr · 17th December 2008, 12:04

Can some one tell if a 6.5" component speaker will fit in stock speaker location on Getz 1.3 2005 without the need for any cutting or spacer rings to the doors?

Bass&Trouble · 17th December 2008, 12:07

No it wont. A spacer ring is required. No cutting required.

drvhplyevraftr · 17th December 2008, 12:09

Thank you. B&T. Any disadvantage in having spacer rings installed?. In other words will it loosen over a period of time?.

Bass&Trouble · 17th December 2008, 12:14

No disadvantage as such. They dont get loose either, if installed properly.

navin · 17th December 2008, 12:27

and if you fear this just run a bead of any rubberised glue before the spacer ring is screwed on.

drvhplyevraftr · 17th December 2008, 12:42

Thank you Navin and B&T.

Will the JBL GTO 3501 monoblock be a good combination with the JBL Powerseries
DVC sub P1224?.

Also will the JBL GTO 75.4 be a good combination with JBL Powerseries 6.5" components?.

The reason to ask this is that I have the JBL 3501, 75.4 amps and want to upgrade to
powerseries DVC sub and components. Please let me know.

If you are aware of the approximate grey market prices for the 6.5" powerseries components and P1224 DVC sub, please let me know.

Thank you.

satansvalet · 22nd December 2008, 14:49

I went to a car decor shop today and inquired about different ICE configurations.
The seth over there told me that an amp wont be necessary if i take pio 6050HB HU to drive JBL components.
Will it give adequate output?

I have got a query on behalf of my friend.

He has a scorpio Mhawk VLX and wishes to install an amp and sub.
Is it possible to do so with the company fitted HU ?

He asked around in couple of shops where he was told that the RC cable
output from the HU can only be used to connect a cd changer and not for
an amp or sub.
This will make his HU useless and so will the controls on the steering.

AudioGurus, please help this brother out !

Bass&Trouble · 23rd December 2008, 15:43

Lol, RC cable to connect CD Changer! Installer doesn't know what he's talking about. Amplifier and subwoofer can be added to the stock HU.

satansvalet · 24th December 2008, 13:55

yesterday we went to the dealer from where my friend brought the scorpio.They told that the system cannot be grown on the existing company fitted .

navin · 24th December 2008, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansvalet

He has a scorpio Mhawk VLX and wishes to install an amp and sub.
Is it possible to do so with the company fitted HU ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansvalet

yesterday we went to the dealer from where my friend brought the scorpio.They told that the system cannot be grown on the existing company fitted .

why not? you get an amp that has speaker level inputs and you are in business.

nishantgandhi · 26th December 2008, 16:03

Since the last few days, I have been facing a strange problem with my ICE.

Setup:
- Pioneer 5050
- Illusion Electra 6.1 front
- Ground Zero TWMKII sub-sealed enclosure
- Blaupunkt GTA4 Special 4 channel amp

The volume seems quite suppressed at the level of 15-20 (which is what I used to listen at normally, when windows are rolled up). Only after I jack up to 25-30 does it become 'normal'. Previously, at a level of 25-30 I would go momentarily deaf to road noises etc.

Weirdly, everything is the same in my system. Amp gains or for that matter, none of the settings on the amp or the HU have been tinkered with. Software (MP3s playing off the USB) are the same.

The only incidence that I remember was when frankmehta was testing out the Pioneer steering remote control on my system and the ATT (attenuation) button got pressed accidentally and the sound was suppressed for a moment. Of course we reversed the change right there and then.

Now what can the issue be? There is no ATT function in Pioneer 5050 menu (AFAIK) so I am pretty sure I could not have pressed it by mistake. Car has not gone for service so no chance of tweaks from that end as well.

drvhplyevraftr · 26th December 2008, 16:46

Guys,

I am quoted Focal Access 165 A1 for 12k (MRP is 16k). The JBL Power series 6.5" components MRP is around 12.5k. Which one is better of the two?. I want crisp vocals with good mid bass. The sound should not be too bright. Please suggest.

Thank you.

adityamunshi · 28th December 2008, 10:40

The factory fitted sound system in my mom's i10 seems to have better bass than my setup ( Pio 6950 , Illusion EL62 coax and GZ 6x9s at the rear). Why is it so ? Can i improve it by adding an amp ?

greenhorn · 28th December 2008, 10:45

its has better bass because its more boom

, and sounds dull. try some critical listening on it - some acoustic tracks with clear highs, tracks with distinct bass notes, the stock ice will just make all the bass sound the same, your setup should let you hear them distinctly. else just pump up the bass/reduce the treble

17th December 2008, 12:04	#9047
drvhplyevraftr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 331 Thanked: 57 Times	Can some one tell if a 6.5" component speaker will fit in stock speaker location on Getz 1.3 2005 without the need for any cutting or spacer rings to the doors?
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17th December 2008, 12:07	#9048
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 125 Times	No it wont. A spacer ring is required. No cutting required.
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17th December 2008, 12:09	#9049
drvhplyevraftr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 331 Thanked: 57 Times	Thank you. B&T. Any disadvantage in having spacer rings installed?. In other words will it loosen over a period of time?.
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17th December 2008, 12:14	#9050
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 125 Times	No disadvantage as such. They dont get loose either, if installed properly.
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17th December 2008, 12:27	#9051
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,309 Times	and if you fear this just run a bead of any rubberised glue before the spacer ring is screwed on.
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17th December 2008, 12:42	#9052
drvhplyevraftr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 331 Thanked: 57 Times	Thank you Navin and B&T. Will the JBL GTO 3501 monoblock be a good combination with the JBL Powerseries DVC sub P1224?. Also will the JBL GTO 75.4 be a good combination with JBL Powerseries 6.5" components?. The reason to ask this is that I have the JBL 3501, 75.4 amps and want to upgrade to powerseries DVC sub and components. Please let me know. If you are aware of the approximate grey market prices for the 6.5" powerseries components and P1224 DVC sub, please let me know. Thank you.
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22nd December 2008, 14:49	#9053
satansvalet BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: mumbai Posts: 65 Thanked: 2 Times	I went to a car decor shop today and inquired about different ICE configurations. The seth over there told me that an amp wont be necessary if i take pio 6050HB HU to drive JBL components. Will it give adequate output? I have got a query on behalf of my friend. He has a scorpio Mhawk VLX and wishes to install an amp and sub. Is it possible to do so with the company fitted HU ? He asked around in couple of shops where he was told that the RC cable output from the HU can only be used to connect a cd changer and not for an amp or sub. This will make his HU useless and so will the controls on the steering. AudioGurus, please help this brother out ! Last edited by Technocrat : 24th December 2008 at 17:16.
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23rd December 2008, 15:43	#9054
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 125 Times	Lol, RC cable to connect CD Changer! Installer doesn't know what he's talking about. Amplifier and subwoofer can be added to the stock HU.
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24th December 2008, 13:55	#9055
satansvalet BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: mumbai Posts: 65 Thanked: 2 Times	yesterday we went to the dealer from where my friend brought the scorpio.They told that the system cannot be grown on the existing company fitted .
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26th December 2008, 16:03	#9057
nishantgandhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,220 Thanked: 156 Times	Sound suppressed Since the last few days, I have been facing a strange problem with my ICE. Setup: - Pioneer 5050 - Illusion Electra 6.1 front - Ground Zero TWMKII sub-sealed enclosure - Blaupunkt GTA4 Special 4 channel amp The volume seems quite suppressed at the level of 15-20 (which is what I used to listen at normally, when windows are rolled up). Only after I jack up to 25-30 does it become 'normal'. Previously, at a level of 25-30 I would go momentarily deaf to road noises etc. Weirdly, everything is the same in my system. Amp gains or for that matter, none of the settings on the amp or the HU have been tinkered with. Software (MP3s playing off the USB) are the same. The only incidence that I remember was when frankmehta was testing out the Pioneer steering remote control on my system and the ATT (attenuation) button got pressed accidentally and the sound was suppressed for a moment. Of course we reversed the change right there and then. Now what can the issue be? There is no ATT function in Pioneer 5050 menu (AFAIK) so I am pretty sure I could not have pressed it by mistake. Car has not gone for service so no chance of tweaks from that end as well. Last edited by nishantgandhi : 26th December 2008 at 16:05.
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26th December 2008, 16:46	#9058
drvhplyevraftr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 331 Thanked: 57 Times	Guys, I am quoted Focal Access 165 A1 for 12k (MRP is 16k). The JBL Power series 6.5" components MRP is around 12.5k. Which one is better of the two?. I want crisp vocals with good mid bass. The sound should not be too bright. Please suggest. Thank you.
	() Thanks

28th December 2008, 10:40	#9059
adityamunshi BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baroda Posts: 771 Thanked: 6 Times	The factory fitted sound system in my mom's i10 seems to have better bass than my setup ( Pio 6950 , Illusion EL62 coax and GZ 6x9s at the rear). Why is it so ? Can i improve it by adding an amp ? Last edited by adityamunshi : 28th December 2008 at 10:42.
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28th December 2008, 10:45	#9060
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,746 Thanked: 4,403 Times View My Garage	its has better bass because its more boom , and sounds dull. try some critical listening on it - some acoustic tracks with clear highs, tracks with distinct bass notes, the stock ice will just make all the bass sound the same, your setup should let you hear them distinctly. else just pump up the bass/reduce the treble
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