The TV Thread - LCD, LED etc.

ST7677 · 16th July 2008, 18:14

Go for it, if you so strongly feel for it. But I would insist that you wait for few weeks and see both new Pana and existing Pio and then decide.

All these reviews are for models which are not available in India, so we can;t entirely rely upon them, like the Pana model here do not have THX which was available in the one CNET reviewed.

There is no absolute level, you feel it is good only till you want to believe it so. The moment you see something better, it's not good any more

I am kind of perfectionist and am waiting for the 10th Gen Pio, which would hopefully have absolute black, at least blacker than 9th Gen black, which would make further blacks, almost irrelevant. Hopefully by then Pio prices would also become more sane and I would be able to afford a bigger size. Sometimes procrastination & greed helps...

jassi · 16th July 2008, 18:26

did you guys try the asia cnet site for reviews
Panasonic Viera TH-42PV8 (42-inch plasma) Overview - TVs - CNET Asia
I am sure the US cnet site is not the only one reviewing plasmas

Elito11 · 16th July 2008, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasudeva

To ROC/others:

I had finalised a Pana 42PV80 at around 70-75K. However, I recently found that Pioneer 428XG Kuro is available at around 1.1 (from Pioneer Noida). Is it worthwhile to go for Pioneer for an extra 35K (which is also affordable). 428XG Kuro is 1024*768p and was I think launched in 2007.

I guess at this stage the best advise would be a self audition! Take a friend along and check out both the screens first hand and then weigh the VFM factor!

My two cents!

Elito

vasudeva · 17th July 2008, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST7677

Go for it, if you so strongly feel for it. But I would insist that you wait for few weeks and see both new Pana and existing Pio and then decide.

Why wait a week. Both are available at the same showroom I am going today.
On waiting for the next gen Pio, that would be then waiting for the next to next gen Pio, the size is 50", and the desire is now (of course there is no need, only desire, which does not equal happiness at all).

ST7677 · 17th July 2008, 10:37

Is Pana 11th generation available in Delhi? Please post your side by side comparo between PV80/the Kuro...

I didn't recommend you to wait for new Pio, because that is available only in 50" and above, whereas you need a 42" one. Moreover all new pio will be full HD and also outside your current budget.

Mods, request the thread to be renamed as "Buying a Flat Panel TV"
or "Buying a LCD / Plasma TV"

vasudeva · 17th July 2008, 10:45

The 11th gen is PV8/PV80/PV800. The first two were launched last week (were on the website before that) but are expected at nearly all stores in the next few weeks. The full HD (800 series) is expected to be launched later in 2008, but only in 50 and 65. See the news story I had posted on 14-7-08.

Some stores in NCR (incl. the one I will visit today) have it and also the Pio. 42 and 50. The next gen Pio are available in the US, are expensive, and big; and so not relevant to me for at least the next 2-3 years. If they are available here, then I can buy another. Pio 42 on a standalone basis and even on comparison with Pana PV8/80 is a worthy choice, if I can get it at a 30-40% premium.

I am not a TV expert, but will still try to post a comparison between PV8 and Pio 42.

I would also suggest changing the thread name. For rookies like me, perhaps it should also say `non-CRT'.

reignofchaos · 17th July 2008, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST7677

Is Pana 11th generation available in Delhi? Please post your side by side comparo between PV80/the Kuro...

I didn't recommend you to wait for new Pio, because that is available only in 50" and above, whereas you need a 42" one. Moreover all new pio will be full HD and also outside your current budget.

Mods, request the thread to be renamed as "Buying a Flat Panel TV"
or "Buying a LCD / Plasma TV"

The 9th Gen Pioneers are supposed to have incredibly good black levels. 0.0031cd/m^2. Here's a nice link

Pioneer PDP-LX5090 Review: Kuro 50" HD 1080p Plasma TV

BTW this site rocks for HDTV reviews.

im_srini · 18th July 2008, 19:15

With my 9-year old 29" Toshiba starting to show it's age I almost got a Sony KLV-46W400A, especially after the glowing reviews it's sister, the KLV-40W400A, received in this month's "What Hi-Fi". But now, after going through this thread, I'm confused again !

Could anybody direct me to a Pioneer dealer or retailer in Chennai from whom I can demo, & possibly buy (with B&W) a Kuro plasma ? The primary use would be with a XBox 360, secondary use would be with regular cable (set-top-box). Plasmas figure quite a bit in this thread, but the magazines like "What Hi-Fi" seem to give them the cold shoulder, why's that ? Is it because of lack of Full-HD ?

vasudeva · 18th July 2008, 19:43

I bought a Pioneer 42 Kuro yesterday and from my initial viewing of a DVD, it is simply great. Do not know how a Pana 42 would have looked like, but Pio 42 is very rich and good. Get a good sound speaker and say goodbye to theatres (well not because a cinema cannot be beaten) but on small screen, Pioneer could be the best. I must thank ROC and others for this.

csentil · 18th July 2008, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasudeva

I bought a Pioneer 42 Kuro yesterday and from my initial viewing of a DVD, it is simply great. Do not know how a Pana 42 would have looked like, but Pio 42 is very rich and good. Get a good sound speaker and say goodbye to theatres (well not because a cinema cannot be beaten) but on small screen, Pioneer could be the best. I must thank ROC and others for this.

Excellent.. Great choice.. the exact model name/no. and the price please. I guess it would be more expensive in Bangalore.. But lets see.

Elito11 · 19th July 2008, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasudeva

I bought a Pioneer 42 Kuro yesterday and from my initial viewing of a DVD, it is simply great. Do not know how a Pana 42 would have looked like, but Pio 42 is very rich and good. Get a good sound speaker and say goodbye to theatres (well not because a cinema cannot be beaten) but on small screen, Pioneer could be the best. I must thank ROC and others for this.

Congrats Vasydeva!

Gr8 TV there! From where and for how much please!

Elito

vasudeva · 19th July 2008, 09:27

Bought Pioneer 428XG from Pioneer service centre in NOIDA. It is listed at Pioneer's website pioneer.co.in under where to buy, service centre, home entertainment. One is in Bangalore too. Got it for 104 (excl. bill, but including warranty). Bill means 4.25% VAT. The person to be contacted is Sandeep 0997105666. While you are there, also check out Panasonic (he stocks those too).

nemo · 19th July 2008, 23:19

i saw in today's TOI about a launch event organized in Garuda mall Bangalore today. Did any happen check out?

bigman · 20th July 2008, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasudeva

Bought Pioneer 428XG from Pioneer service centre in NOIDA. It is listed at Pioneer's website pioneer.co.in under where to buy, service centre, home entertainment. One is in Bangalore too. Got it for 104 (excl. bill, but including warranty). Bill means 4.25% VAT. The person to be contacted is Sandeep 0997105666. While you are there, also check out Panasonic (he stocks those too).

Well done on your purchase. Pioneer have always made exceptional products. I have had a Pioneer DV636 DVD player for a good 8 years and it still looks good and plays everything.

Is it wise to mention the place does special cash prices (ie excluding VAT) ? We don't want the owner to be raided and harrassed do we ?

vasudeva · 20th July 2008, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigman

Well done on your purchase. Pioneer have always made exceptional products. I have had a Pioneer DV636 DVD player for a good 8 years and it still looks good and plays everything.

Is it wise to mention the place does special cash prices (ie excluding VAT) ? We don't want the owner to be raided and harrassed do we ?

I am sorry for that. I was unaware that this could happen.

16th July 2008, 18:14	#1246
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,067 Thanked: 99 Times Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Go for it, if you so strongly feel for it. But I would insist that you wait for few weeks and see both new Pana and existing Pio and then decide. All these reviews are for models which are not available in India, so we can;t entirely rely upon them, like the Pana model here do not have THX which was available in the one CNET reviewed. There is no absolute level, you feel it is good only till you want to believe it so. The moment you see something better, it's not good any more I am kind of perfectionist and am waiting for the 10th Gen Pio, which would hopefully have absolute black, at least blacker than 9th Gen black, which would make further blacks, almost irrelevant. Hopefully by then Pio prices would also become more sane and I would be able to afford a bigger size. Sometimes procrastination & greed helps...
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16th July 2008, 18:26	#1247
jassi BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 980 Thanked: 12 Times View My Garage	did you guys try the asia cnet site for reviews Panasonic Viera TH-42PV8 (42-inch plasma) Overview - TVs - CNET Asia I am sure the US cnet site is not the only one reviewing plasmas
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17th July 2008, 10:37	#1250
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,067 Thanked: 99 Times Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Is Pana 11th generation available in Delhi? Please post your side by side comparo between PV80/the Kuro... I didn't recommend you to wait for new Pio, because that is available only in 50" and above, whereas you need a 42" one. Moreover all new pio will be full HD and also outside your current budget. Mods, request the thread to be renamed as "Buying a Flat Panel TV" or "Buying a LCD / Plasma TV"
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17th July 2008, 10:45	#1251
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	The 11th gen is PV8/PV80/PV800. The first two were launched last week (were on the website before that) but are expected at nearly all stores in the next few weeks. The full HD (800 series) is expected to be launched later in 2008, but only in 50 and 65. See the news story I had posted on 14-7-08. Some stores in NCR (incl. the one I will visit today) have it and also the Pio. 42 and 50. The next gen Pio are available in the US, are expensive, and big; and so not relevant to me for at least the next 2-3 years. If they are available here, then I can buy another. Pio 42 on a standalone basis and even on comparison with Pana PV8/80 is a worthy choice, if I can get it at a 30-40% premium. I am not a TV expert, but will still try to post a comparison between PV8 and Pio 42. I would also suggest changing the thread name. For rookies like me, perhaps it should also say `non-CRT'. Last edited by vasudeva : 17th July 2008 at 10:46.
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18th July 2008, 19:15	#1253
im_srini BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 491 Times View My Garage	With my 9-year old 29" Toshiba starting to show it's age I almost got a Sony KLV-46W400A, especially after the glowing reviews it's sister, the KLV-40W400A, received in this month's "What Hi-Fi". But now, after going through this thread, I'm confused again ! Could anybody direct me to a Pioneer dealer or retailer in Chennai from whom I can demo, & possibly buy (with B&W) a Kuro plasma ? The primary use would be with a XBox 360, secondary use would be with regular cable (set-top-box). Plasmas figure quite a bit in this thread, but the magazines like "What Hi-Fi" seem to give them the cold shoulder, why's that ? Is it because of lack of Full-HD ?
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18th July 2008, 19:43	#1254
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	I bought a Pioneer 42 Kuro yesterday and from my initial viewing of a DVD, it is simply great. Do not know how a Pana 42 would have looked like, but Pio 42 is very rich and good. Get a good sound speaker and say goodbye to theatres (well not because a cinema cannot be beaten) but on small screen, Pioneer could be the best. I must thank ROC and others for this.
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19th July 2008, 09:27	#1257
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	Bought Pioneer 428XG from Pioneer service centre in NOIDA. It is listed at Pioneer's website pioneer.co.in under where to buy, service centre, home entertainment. One is in Bangalore too. Got it for 104 (excl. bill, but including warranty). Bill means 4.25% VAT. The person to be contacted is Sandeep 0997105666. While you are there, also check out Panasonic (he stocks those too).
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19th July 2008, 23:19	#1258
nemo BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 179 Thanked: 9 Times	i saw in today's TOI about a launch event organized in Garuda mall Bangalore today. Did any happen check out?
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