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Originally Posted by phamilyman My colleague has owned the M7 Mini for 2 years - it simply takes the best low light party shots. |
Agreed. But that's the point. That camera was only good in low light, and subpar pretty much everywhere else. In low light, the large pixel size and OIS helped it immensely, but in good light, outdoors, and everywhere else, the tiny resolution, lack of detail, and some delay meant that it ended up more as a gimmick. Videos were nothing to write home about either. And it was not as if it was the absolute king in low light either. The Lumia 920 camera beat it there as well. And HTC themselves agreed that the ultra pixel thing was not really working out. The One M9 had a 20 MP regular Toshiba sensor, that was much better than the older One's, but incidentally, again not as good as its own peers.
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Relax - no need to spew so much iBuyer-Hate. Can we please be mutually respectful and not diss a large subset's intelligence?
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I never meant to cause any offense to any iDevice user among us, and hereby apologize to anybody, including yourself, who may have felt that my comments may have offended them. However I don't feel I said anything particularly targeting, or comment upon anyone's intellect, nor did I intend to. I always criticise Apple themselves more than their users. But at the same time you will have to agree that there is a considerable number of iUsers who are true to what I had said, and in fact deserve the criticism. I only feel the wrong (or in reality the right kind of) people should not take it onto themselves.
I would like to quote my own previous post here:
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That's not judgemental, brother. I had seriously decided to cut out my iPhone hate at one point, and give the iUsers a break. But it's observed general behaviour that keeps persisting among iUsers that makes me speak. It's not as if I'm just a biased hater that tries to get on top of all that is Apple.
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Did you happen to own one?
Which iPhone have you owned of late?
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I have owned neither an HTC One nor an iPhone myself. One of my close friends has a One M7, and I have handled it many times. And iPhones are popular, and some of my friends have them as well. However, I don't think only owning something yourself gives you the right to speak definitively about it. Sure, it does give you a much deeper perspective, but one can have a good idea of something without owning it themselves too.
For instance, how many Team-BHP reviewers have owned all the cars that they review? None of them most probably. They get only a few hours, or in some cases, a few days to spend with a car. And yet I bet they know more about the cars they review than 90% of the owners too!! As if that is not evident from the sheer detail we have in the reviews.
What is more important is how much detail you pick up from something from whatever you see of it. Some may be overenthusiastic, some may just not care.
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I have the 6 since April, and have convinced 5 friends to buy the same.
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I never said the iPhone is exactly BAD. It is in fact seriously likeable and dependable for a considerable demographic. Your friends may have really liked the phone and I accept it. But then their usage might have been such that they found the iPhone suiting to their needs. That doesn't mean that the iPhone should be the best, or for everyone. You will agree to it too.
Let me give you an example from my own side. My Dad bought a Note 2 just after launch. It was absolutely the best smartphone then, but costed a bomb, and I had asked him to get it myself. It was his first smartphone by the way. And it is still with him, still on official KitKat, with the horrible old Touchwiz on top. He uses it only for calling, messaging, emails, whatsapp, and a bit of web browsing. Doesn't even take too many photos. And to be honest, that phone is proving to be too much for him. The size is too big, absolutely can't be used in one hand with a flip cover on, Touchwiz is showing why it is so confusing and messy, and he never uses any of the productivity features of the Note. The stylus hasn't been taken out in entire years. The solid battery life is the only saving grace. Apps keep updating and stay unused. And simple stuff like turning on the flash needs a separate widget, that stays on the home screen. The icons keep moving around home screens by accident, and he finds it annoying to fetch the app he needs every single time and keep rearranging the shortcuts and folders and widgets. It lacks simplicity and straightforwardness. And as the phone is getting older, the time spent plugged in is increasing too. He doesn't see any reason to change at the moment. It doesn't lag really, and the performance is enough for his use. I have made up my mind however. Whenever he chooses to change, his next phone is going to be an iPhone. I had never thought I will see an iPhone in the house, but in a couple of years, I may. And it will work for my Dad extremely well. The simplicity, feel in hand, and ease of use of core apps of the iPhone will be better than the extremely customisable but messy solution of Samsung.
What I completely disagree to is the general notion that 'iPhone is the best', or calling Android inferior or unfair as compared to iPhones. The iPhone is indeed really likeable. But for those who still think it is the benchmark for smartphones and that everything else should be compared to and judged from it, sorry, the world has moved on. The average user's obvious first option should no longer be an iPhone. Android has earned that right now. iPhones are great for those for whom they work, and they should rather be an acquired taste. A popular niche, if one may say that. And that's the way the iPhone has evolved and progressed too, aiming to get better than the previous one, and satisfying the needs of a select user base with style. It is not meant to catch one's fancy and provide an open experience for a newcomer the way Android (especially OEM) devices are doing. That is why it only improves on existing features, doesn't change too much with the design, and doesn't ever look like it's getting any cheaper either.
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Regardless of what anyone says - I'm a believer in keeping phones on old software, across OSes. After much ROM drama, the S3 is happy at Jelly Bean (4.3). Gingerbread (2.3) was where the HTC Chacha and Defy stayed.
Similarly the i6 will stay on iOS9! Even my brand new laptop is on Win7. I'm not moving!
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Alright, if that works for you. But this kind of approach would best work for those who don't keep their gadgets for too long and change regularly. That way, they don't fall too far behind. If I would have had enough money to buy a new flagship phone every year, I would have never bothered with software updates myself!!