[AlokSriva]

Originally Posted by KreativeGeek

Expected delivery on 3rd Sep, eager to get behind my new set of wheels!

Congratulations.. Once your car arrives at dealer's stockyard, is that when they would share the VIN with you? Or can it be done sooner once the vehicle has been shipped from plant to the dealer?

[StepUP!]

My colleague is in market to buy his new ride for a while now and planning to replace his aging Santro with a new petrol car within 10L budget.

We got into discussion few months back when I suggested him to have a look at Zest. After taking a test drive he came out all impressed with turbocharged Revotron, space and overall quality VFM Zest offers, and almost decided to go ahead with Tata. But alas! Tata's fate played it's part and he was advised by his parents to stay away from Tata. Apparently for no reason!
They advised him to buy Maruti, Hyundai or Honda. He didn't like Dzire, Xcent and Amaze for their lack of space, quirky looks, cheap interiors and light build. He was not ready to go for not so grand - i10, pricey i20 either.

Then again we had a discussion. I said wait for Jazz and Aspire.

When he took a TD of Jazz, though he liked the car's looks and space; he was disappointed by lack of "premium-ness" of cabin despite being charged 8.7L OTR for petrol top end. His wife didn't like Jazz.

He took a TD of Aspire thrice till date. He liked it very much. And finally decided to drop it. Reason? This time his BIL said it has less boot space and doesn't look that premium from inside!

I was asking him to go for Ecosport 1L ecoboost though it crossed his budget. He was sold on Ecosport.
This time again his wife didn't like Ecosport's cabin plastic quality and said if you wanna buy SUV then why not proper SUV like Scorpio!

He hasn't booked any car yet.

This is what shows in India how many factors play in deciding which car to buy!

[KreativeGeek]

Originally Posted by AlokSriva

Congratulations.. Once your car arrives at dealer's stockyard, is that when they would share the VIN with you? Or can it be done sooner once the vehicle has been shipped from plant to the dealer?

I am no sure if the dealer can share VIN number once it is out for delivery from the manufacturing plant, however I had asked once it arrived yesterday evening at the dealer stockyard to see the car physically as a part of per-registration check.

[arnabchak]

Originally Posted by StepUP!

My colleague is in market to buy his new ride for a while now and planning to replace his aging Santro with a new petrol car within 10L budget.

There is something called as Conviction!!

The car buying process is a complex one but you need to stand by your convictions in the first place and be very sure of what exactly you want.

Changing stand and dropping a vehicle on the behest of "others" thoughts may not be the best way to end up buying.

Parents way no Tata hence no Tata.
BIL says no Aspire hence no Aspire.
Wifey say no Jazz and hence no Jazz.

In all this, where is your friend's voice?

Pls. ask him to stick to his beliefs, do a thorough TD and stick to his lan.

There is no perfect car and pros and cons will be there in all.

All the cars shortlisted have their strengths and weaknesses.
Ask him to select the one which best suits his needs.

All the best!!

[rsm97]

Originally Posted by StepUP!

My colleague is in market to buy his new ride for a while now and planning to replace his aging Santro with a new petrol car within 10L budget.


He hasn't booked any car yet.

This is what shows in India how many factors play in deciding which car to buy!

Its OT but interesting. Someone shifting his position from Zest to Scorpio, via i10/20 & ecoboost, in my view is not in real need of a new car. The person most probably is happy with whatever he has.

[vinu99@gmail.co]

Originally Posted by KreativeGeek

Got my car checked before it goes for RTO formalities as it arrived yesterday from Sanand plant, 2 day delay in dispatch due to reservation riots that caused disturbance in Gujarat.

VIN details shows unknown model on the Ford VIN tracking site (may be due to EU site) Sparkling Gold shade is known by Korea Gold color, as expected it is rightly categorized in the 4 door salon segment.

Expected delivery on 3rd Sep, eager to get behind my new set of wheels!

Checked the allocated VIN and found the feature list to be an interesting read

Primary Features
Build Date: 23.07.2015
Vehicle Line: B562
Body Style: 4 Door Saloon
Version: Series 31
Engine: 1.5L Duratec Ti-VCT (110PS) - Sigma
Transmission: 6 Speed Auto Trans GFT DPS6
Drive: RHD FWD
Axle Ratio: 4.105/4.588 Final Drive Ratio
Emission: Bharat 4
Air Conditioning: Automatic Air Conditioning
Territory: (+)"IND"
Paint: Tuxedo Black
Interior Colour: Light Oak Interior
==================================
Minor Features
Rear End Fascia - Level 2
Less Front Door Sill Protection
Less Cargo Stowage Device
Less Accessory USB Unit
Less Interior Pack
Driver & Passenger Seat Map Pockets
With Hill Launch Assist
Less Battery Monitor System
With Tailgate Lock
B/C Pillar Decal
(-) Version Packages
Gujarat India Assy Plant Build
Mex, Saf, Export, India Sales
Ford Corporate Badge
With Side Impact Package
Titanium Badge
Marketing Level 1
(-) SVP
Less Safety Packs
Exterior Paint - Solid
With English Language Label
Rear Decklid Applique
Less Fire Extinguisher Fixings
Less Fire Extinguisher
With First Aid Kit
Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
Package Tray - Fixed
Pwr Fr Window 1 Touch Up/Dwn-Driver
With Electric Rear Windows
With Tinted Glass All Round
With Laminated Windscreen
Less Illum Power Window Switches
With Heated Rear Window
Less Console Ashtray
With Wheel Arch Mouldings
With Standard Instrument Panel
With Integral Glove Box Lid
Console Top Plate - Finish 1
Less Overhead Console
With Full Floor Console
Int Environ Colour-Metallic Grey
With Carpet Floor Covering Level 2
Front Floor Mat-Driver Only
With Instrument Panel Stowage Box
With Full Headlining - Moulded
Drivers Visor Mir/Flap/Tick Pocket
With Door Map Pocket
With Level 2 Door Trim Panel
With Front Roof Grab Handle
With Rear Roof Grab Handle
Rear Coat Hook
With Load Floor Carpet
With W/Triangle. Retainer Straps
With Load Compartment Side Trim
With Noise Insulation Pack
With Interior Dash Insulator
Hood Insulator High Series
Ins-Eng Dash Outer Dash Upper
Ins-Eng Dash Outer Dash Lower Hi
With Self Colour Grille #2
Grille - Lower Dark
Chromed Headlamp Moldings
Less Roof Rack
Less Exterior Body Mouldings
Less Tail Lamp Lense Applique
With Dipping Rear View Mirror
Dual Ext Pwr Mirror-Power Fold Back
With Body Coloured Exterior Mirror
Blended Seat Trims No.4
Less Under Seat Stowage Facility
Less Drivers Seat Armrest
With Front 2 Way Headrest
With Manual Driver Seat Recliner
With Manual Passenger Seat Recliner
With Fixed Rear Seat
With 2 Way Adjustable Rear Headrest
With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
Less Rear Centre Headrest
Less Temp Control Driver Seat
Less Temp Control Passengers Seat
With Driver 4 Way Mnl.Seat Adjuster
With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
With Front Tow Hooks
With Rear Tow Hooks
Less Trailer Towing Attachments
Less Trailer Coupling
Less Fuel Economy Pack
Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle
With Soft Feel Gear Shift Knob
With Child Proof Safety Lock
With Remote Controlled Tailgate Release
With Door Auto Relocking - Enabled
With Central Locking System
Less Door Entry Remote Control Unit
Less Keyless Entry System
Less Fuel Filler Flap Lock
Less Rear Window Wiper/Washer
With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
Less Sun Roof
Less U/Body Corrosion Protect
Front Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
Rear Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
Less Bumper Energy Reinforcement
Front Bumper Lip
Less Air Curtain Restraint
Less Inflatable Knee Bolster Driver
With Beltminder
With Static Front Seat Belt
With Centre Rear 3 Point Seat Belt
With Driver Air Bag
With Passenger Air Bag
Less Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
Less Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
Less Isofix Hard Point Attach
With Manual Adjust Frt.S.Belt Mount
Less Tether Anchorage Restraint
With Steel Spare Wheel
Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
5.5J X 14" Alloy Road Wheel No.1
With Wheel Hub Cap
Non Locking Lug Nuts
With Standard Engine Cooling Fan
Less Remote Starter
Bharat 4
With Front Stabilizer Bar
Parking Brake Knob Chromed
With Front Disc-Brake/Rr Drum Brake
Brakes-HLA/ESP/TC/ABS
With Pollen Filter
With Recirculating Heater
Less A/C Refrigerant
Less Fuel Water Separator
With Locking Fuel Cap
For Unleaded Fuel
With Electric Power Steering
With Tilting Only Steering Column
Soft Feel Type Steering Wheel
Less Electronic Speed Limitation
Less Speed Control
Less Auxiliary Heater
Low Series Analog Cluster
With KMH Speedometer
With Trip Computer
With Low Fuel Warning Light
With Tachometer
With Water Temperature Light
Single Disk Horn
With Single Function Digital Clock
Less Tyre Inflation Monitor
Less Multi Function Display
Less Emergency Assistance
Less Anti-Theft Alarm
With Engine Immobilizer - Integral
Less Rear Parking Aid
Less Radio
Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
Less ICE Feature Pack
Less Microphone
Less Sync
Less Voice Activated Modules
Less Steering Wheel Radio Controls
Hazard Warning Switch/Pad Lamp
Less Smokers Package
Less Cigar Lighter
Less Power Point Plug
With Fog Lamp Bezel
Less Fog Lamps-Front Prep Pack
Less Daytime Running Lamps
With Side Repeat Flashers
With Front Fog Lamps
Less Header Mounted Map Light
Header Dome Light Less Map Lamp
With Courtesy Light Delay
Less Rear Overhead Reading Lamps
Less Glove Box Illumination
With Load Compartment Lamp
With High Mounted Stop Lamp
With Rear Fog Lamps
With Manual Headlamp Levelling
With Conventional Headlamp Control
Less Instrument Panel Dimmer Switch
Less Option Switch #3 Programming
Less Body Structure Upgrade

[PrideRed]

Spotted a silver Aspire on road. Must say looks smashing, has great road presence. None of the current CS can match the aspire, be it interms of style, feature list or from mechanical front. Only sad part is Ford isn't marketing the product well.

[StepUP!]

Originally Posted by arnabchak

There is something called as Conviction!!

The car buying process is a complex one but you need to stand by your convictions in the first place and be very sure of what exactly you want.

Changing stand and dropping a vehicle on the behest of "others" thoughts may not be the best way to end up buying.

Parents way no Tata hence no Tata.
BIL says no Aspire hence no Aspire.
Wifey say no Jazz and hence no Jazz.

In all this, where is your friend's voice?

Pls. ask him to stick to his beliefs, do a thorough TD and stick to his lan.

There is no perfect car and pros and cons will be there in all.

All the cars shortlisted have their strengths and weaknesses.
Ask him to select the one which best suits his needs.

All the best!!

Agreed to your points! But "conviction" would be there for petrolheads like you and me. I was trying to highlight what a non-enthusiast or a person who thinks car as just another stuff on the planet; go through.

I really do not understand the difference between 10 sarees my wife shows to me when she is shopping I feel they all are the same. But she will ask me how it looks for each saree. In the process by judgement I select one and she buys that. In turn she is happy that everyone liked the saree.

In same way this guy liked Jazz/Aspire/Zest/Ecosport but considers everyone's opinion and want to buy the car, everyone likes.

Sorry I am giving lame examples though

[KreativeGeek]

Ford's domestic sales jumped 22.5% in August'15 as per this article due to arrival of Figo Aspire, awaiting Team-BHP post on Aug'15 sales to find out if this is really true!

[treadmark]

Originally Posted by KreativeGeek

Ford's domestic sales jumped 22.5% in August'15 as per this article due to arrival of Figo Aspire, awaiting Team-BHP post on Aug'15 sales to find out if this is really true!

It is more interesting to note combined domestic wholesales and exports in August 2015 for Ford India stood at 21,520 vehicles. This is 53% more compared to the month last year.

LINK to the article.

Cheers!

[advaitlele]

And surprising and probably the first in the history of TeamBHP that I can remember - we don't have an official review post even after a week of launch.
Please, post that soon.

[sathya_g_m]

Originally Posted by StepUP!

Agreed to your points! But "conviction" would be there for petrolheads like you and me. I was trying to highlight what a non-enthusiast or a person who thinks car as just another stuff on the planet; go through.

Not really, I was in the market looking for a caaar. Tried i20/active/creta/verna, scala/duster/lodgy, aspire/ecosport, amaze/city/mobilio, scross/ciaz/dezire/ertiga, Vento, Xylo/quanto/scorpio, linea, sunny (out of memory :-)). Criteria was to get a spacious car and I have been talking about only cars for the past 3 months. I brainstorm the choice with my family, friends to get opinion. Every time you get a comment, you look out for a better option and cannot just decide by heart.

Originally Posted by StepUP!

In same way this guy liked Jazz/Aspire/Zest/Ecosport but considers everyone's opinion and want to buy the car, everyone likes.

Sorry I am giving lame examples though

Not lame at all. I had been thru this, fully understandable. For god's sake, 10 Lakhs is not a small money by any means, getting a depreciating item at that price be damn good for him and his family. I wish him good luck and let his purchase please all including himself.

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by KreativeGeek

Ford's domestic sales jumped 22.5% in August'15 as per this article due to arrival of Figo Aspire, awaiting Team-BHP post on Aug'15 sales to find out if this is really true!

Originally Posted by treadmark

It is more interesting to note combined domestic wholesales and exports in August 2015 for Ford India stood at 21,520 vehicles. This is 53% more compared to the month last year.

LINK to the article.

Cheers!

Ford India's domestic sales is around 8300. Going by previous data, Ecosport should be anywhere around 3K, which means Ford would have sold approximately 4.5-5K aspire.

[arnabchak]

Originally Posted by StepUP!

Agreed to your points! .......

In same way this guy liked Jazz/Aspire/Zest/Ecosport but considers everyone's opinion and want to buy the car, everyone likes.

Sorry I am giving lame examples though

Dear Stepup

Completely agree with the saree point as most of us have gone through such numerous "look how do I look" moments.

Something like a saree/dress or even a mobile which can be purchased with some loose change is acceptable.

Here, we are looking at a major buying decision, and it is correct to involve and listen to people around. Yet, at the same time, the final decision should be with your friend with at the max, intervention/inputs from wifey!!

In most cases than not, wifey's role is limited to the choice of colour, muhurat date etc while the technical specifications and features(other than vanity mirror in the co passenger's side) is left to the man.

Think of it this way- The couple decides on the model and brand. Stick to it with conviction and buy it once the mind is made.

Will give you my example. When I came to Mumbai, my first car was a Fiat Uno. I bought this 2000 model in 2010.

No one would have touched it with a barge pole. Paid just Rs. 50K.
Used it extensively for 6 months and 18K kms later, sold it to a Kerelite for 55K.

• I was convinced that this car would help me understand the driving pattern in Mumbai(Mind you, I had over 70K kms and 10 years of experience behind me by then. I learnt driving at 15. Dont kill me for this though!!)
• I was convinced that for the amount I am paying, Uno is my best bet.
• I was convinced that I will use this car for a short duration and dispose.

End of the day, this "belief" paid off for me.


As I again stated, stick to what your friend wants and believe me, his trust will repay him suitably.


All the cars specified are very good and will serve him for years to come.

[phamilyman]

Originally Posted by vinu99@gmail.co

Less Body Structure Upgrade

What is that supposed to mean? It sounds ominous! Or am I |reading| unnecessarily?

/hat tip/salute to those who get it?