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| ![]() There’s no doubt the floating screen, all tech features loaded into this product will eat into the share of Safari head-on. I believe the top variant might be a bit more expensive with all bells & whistles Vs the Safari. But, I don’t think the current population will not really bother spending extra if they’re getting more features which seems to-date as compared to the Safari or any other product in the segment which is now old fashioned ![]() |
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None, and by that I mean absolutely none of the vehicles with a 2.0 MJD have ever been evaluated for a frontal offset test in the RHD configuration. And no, this doesn't just mean the Jeep Compass. It includes (Yes, I checked the crash results, if available, of each and every one of them): FCA
The LHD 2.0 MJD Compass was tested in EURO NCAP, and the RHD 2.4 L petrol Compass was tested in Australia. The ratings of the tested variants were then extended to other variants via the variant policy in place at these NCAPs, which one can find on their respective websites. Same is the case with cars mentioned above. They have either not been tested, or when tested, it was either the LHD configuration if 2.0 MJD or anything-but-2.0 MJD in the RHD configuration; always and without exception. You can also see the placement of the oil filter on the 2.0 MJD Indian Compass here, at the 1 minute mark: I don't claim to know better than the folks at NCAP; I do not possess the required know-how and tools to do so. I simply wanted to make a case for ram87pune, that whatever he was saying may not be entirely untrue. The RHD 2.0 MJD has never been crash tested in the flesh, and the oil filter does seem to be situated at the far end of the engine bay, which according to ram87pune was the cause of the problem. This is by no means an objective analysis, just speculation. Feel free to disagree if you didn't find the speculative mumbo jumbo useful. Only a crash test may reveal the truth. PS I: if anyone wants the variant policy for extension of a crash rating but couldn't find it on the website, feel free to ask. PS II: Can any Harrier/Safari/Hector/Hector plus owners tell me the placement of oil filter on their vehicles? Last edited by rpm : 18th March 2021 at 10:01. | |
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| ![]() This article says that XUV 500 is among 5 cars getting launched next month https://gaadiwaadi.com/5-cars-launch...ew-gen-xuv500/ My initial impression was that they are not in touch with the latest developments (semiconductor shortage which is supposed to have pushed the launches) and still going by old reports but I saw that the article also mentions about the 'memory seats' which is a latest finding. This is what they say: "The next-generation Mahindra XUV500 is expected to launch in India next month. The upcoming SUV has been spied countless times on road tests, and the new model will get a lot of premium features, like a panoramic sunroof, power-adjustable seats (likely with memory function), and a dual-screen dashboard. The powertrain options are expected to be the same as the Thar – a 2.0L turbo-petrol and a 2." |
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| ![]() Mahindra XUV500 with panoramic sunroof and Scorpio with regular sunroof spotted testing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Source : Rushlane Last edited by Venkatesh : 18th March 2021 at 10:56. |
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You are right that the head rests appears to be way behind the C pillar. I don't know whether it is because the seats are in fully reclined position. In any case, the sunroof appears larger than what we normally see. May be we need to wait and see if that is indeed the case. |
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| ![]() Looks like soon after resolving the semiconductor issues they will start production of both the products in high volumes. If Mahindra provide petrol AT on all variants of XUV , then MG dealers would be forced to re-badge their showrooms, they rely on petrol Hectors. |
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Such nuggets of fact are hard to come by while mainstream advertorials and compromised mass auto journalism(?) are just drowning us in a sea of useless information. It takes a keen eye and motivation to dig deep and unearth these deeply buried inferences. Kudos. Im surprised there's not much chatter on the issue of GNCAP from those shopping in this segment. If we don't ask for it, car makers would be more than happy to not bring it up. Is it the lack of choice or is it just our market's priorities? Looks and Features are all that sell?. | |
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I'll be honest, it did take some grind to find every car with a 2.0 MJD; sit through, download, open and read each and every crash result pdf, while also simultaneously trying to discern the policy for extension of a crash rating to other variants without a crash test, and also the oil filter placement across various models of the Compass. The enthusiast in me probably pulled me through the initial chores, but I was only partly successful in the latter endeavor— I couldn't find the oil filter placement of RHD 2.4 L compass sold in Australia; maybe I didn't look hard enough. In the end, I still only ended up with speculative evidence, not something concrete like RSR's chassis diagrams showing the structural differences between Indian and first-world Hyundais and Kias. (Totally loved that nugget, which you wouldn't find in your typical mass auto journalism (?)) I will say though, the credit for this still goes to ram87pune. It was his post that created a doubt in my mind in the first place, otherwise I was content in my own world, where the Harrier was undoubtedly a 4-star car at the very least; without exception, and without a crash test. ![]() As I set out to investigate the extra tidbits in his post, like the placement of the oil filter, the configuration actually tested in EURO NCAP; I kept finding data to at least not dismiss his post completely; that the doubt it created in my mind wasn't misplaced. Quote:
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| ![]() From one of my sources in M&M design, Thar launch was a testing platform for the new petrol engine when they are known for successful diesel SUVs. The response received was lukewarm and encouraged the team to pursue their engine tweaks planned for Scorpio & XUV launch. This is something everyone had in their mind, even my friend who worked in Hyundai and now in Ford advised me at least for 6 months from launch to let the initial juggles settle down. Seems we can go for it at launch. Do any BHPian gets hands on factual launch timelines? |
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Roughly: The 2.0 MJD in RHD config has an issue with intrusion below steering wheel in case of impact/crash. This is the reason why vehicles with this combination have not been certified yet. Hopefully it will be soon. Last edited by condor : 21st March 2021 at 20:11. | |
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