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| ![]() I think all this 50l otr pricing is a systematic leak by MG themselves so that when they actually announce a sub 40l otr price, it will seem well priced by comparison. Knowing how the Chinese operate be it in electronics or Auto sector, you can expect a crazy low pricing to first take the market. Even if priced on par with the fortuner you can expect it to do very well. Let's not forget the average big SUV buyer likes chrome, likes gloss it is only us in this forum who hate it. Look at the standard mods done in semi urban or rural Fortuners and you will see more bling is better. MG Aren't VAG or Toyota, in that with the hector they seem to know what they are doing, and here they are gunning for the Fortuner with some pick offs from the Innova also if possible. My gut feel is that it will be priced low and it will do very well. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Do we know more on the engine front ? Historically we have seen mostly in-house engines when we see bulk of our diesel models, TATA, Mahindra, Ford, Renault, Toyota etc OR JD from FIAT(maruti, GM, MG Hector, Tata harrier etc) If MG says in house developed engine, I doubt if that is true. This could just be a re-branded Chinese engine. Curious to know more about this. Last edited by rajshenoy : 7th September 2020 at 16:08. |
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| ![]() I personally think Gloster is not going to make much impact on Fortuner and Endeavour sales. The reason is - Who buys Fortuner ? Primarily the politicians and thier kin or people who like to show off their Fortuners . Fortuner has been a style statement ever since it's launch and in that sense it has really taken over that mantle from erstwhile Pajero. Simply said "Fortuner = Big guy in the area" and I really doubt any so called big guy will prefer anything other than Fortuner (If Endeavour, Alturas and MU-X can't change this sentiment it is nigh impossible for any other car to do it) The only real threat to Fortuner I can see is if Tata decides to wake from it's Slumber and give that "Safari" nameplate a worthy shape. Fortuner sells more because of it's nameplate and not because of it's characteristics and Gloster for all it's supposed advantage simply does not look like a worthy contender nameplate. As for the enthusiasts who buy Fortuner ? they buy it for Toyota's reliability and probably best 4x4 system in it's class knowing fully well the other limitations and that scene also doesn't look like changing any time soon. Who buys Endeavour ? The person who wants a better vehicle than Fortuner (4x4 system being one thing where Fortuner is slightly ahead but Endeavour is no slouch it's a matter of 20 vs 21 and third row ingress-egress being the second which is not great in Fortuner either) and is ready to lose some resale value in trade-off. In other words Endeavour is for enthusiasts. Will these folk buy Gloster ? No because Gloster or rather MG just do not sound as reliable or enthusiast friendly as Endeavour. Alturas being such a good vehicle couldn't make a dent here is in itself a case study. So then is Gloster going to sell ? who is going to buy it ? Gloster will sell, maybe as good as Endeavour but it will not attract the Fortuner-Endeavor customers rather it will attract new crowd to this D2 SUV segment. So then who are these new people going to be ? 1. Gloster will eat out CR-V/ Santa-Fe/ MU-X hopefuls. Reason being these guys were not willing to buy Fortuner and Endeavour as they were looking for a Non-Innova (read - Cabs) big and expensive family car, and they don't really give two hoots about 4x4 system (If Gloster has a 2WD variant I can bet it will outsell 4WD by a big margin) 2. The segment created by Vellfire - Yes, Vellfire created quite a buzz and there were use cases being proposed for it but it's priced rather too out of reach for majority of India, Gloster may yet give second wind to these hopes. 3. People who bought sedans for their luxurious interiors over Fortuner-Endeavour. I think this point is self-explanatory. There are enough people who can buy a D2 SUV segment but the existing options never suited them, Gloster can pick these buyers. What happens to Kodiaq and Alturas ? Alturas will stay as a halo Mahindra product till SSangyong and Mahindra partnership exists. Kodiaq buyers are not going to buy Gloster, these guys are going to look above at Mercedes/ Volvo/ BMW etc and not below at MG. |
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![]() There is no conspiracy or collusion between MG and the magazines. MG might be misleading the public and the media about their pricing but hatching a conspiracy with the media to mislead public seems like a far fetched fantasy suitable to movies only. Last edited by Shreyas Agarwal : 8th September 2020 at 09:38. | |
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| ![]() Gloster to get Massage and Ventilated front seats along with memory settings. https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto...468523254.html |
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The unbiased magazines are simply no more IMO, everytime you see one of the reviews you feel like they become too uneasy while telling the disadvantages and drawbacks of a vehicle. All of this seems more of an advertisement than a review, for ex: I was recently watching a video review where the reviewer said that the AMT in that car was jerky but convenient and I'm like ![]() ![]() | |
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Regarding what you said about the AMTs, yes they are pretty jerky but for a meager 30-40k and no FE loss they bring the convenience of an automatic. Quoting from Team-BHP's own Swift AMT review, it also says that the AMT results in a stress-free (convenient) drive but is jerky. Would you call it paid now? Quote:
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Exactly the reason I quoted the article. One might not be convinced but 50 lakhs is the mark that MG has conveyed (even I am not) but that does not mean that media is colluding with MG regarding conveying higher than expected pricing. It is MG who said that we will price it around that mark and nobody is justifying it, it is just being published as is. Last edited by Shreyas Agarwal : 8th September 2020 at 13:02. | |||
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![]() ![]() doesn’t mean the car is owned by someone big! You have also stated the reasons for enthusiasts buying it which are completely true and I have reiterated the reasons, just the Politician and big man’s car caught my attention and I don’t blame you at all. Please don’t take any offence against my post It sells because of its reliability, brand name, low service prices, resale value, off road prowess, it’s linkage to the Innova with decently powerful engines even if not the best, ability to haul people without breaking any sweat and it’s rugged raw feel. If Ford, MG, Mahindra, Tata, etc would provide me the same dealer experience, service quality, easy availability of spares, honesty that Toyota showcases I would be happy to sell my car and run towards these brands without battling an eyelid. Classic Eg: Ford has shut two showrooms near my house in the last 5 years. In this segment people want brand value over features and it is clearly visible, same is the case with say any car overlapping with a German car. Last edited by CEF_Beasts : 8th September 2020 at 13:31. | |
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| ![]() ![]() 1. Does MG have that good quality levels ? 2. Does MG have that long standing repute? 3. Has MG got any particular USP? (JOY aka BMW, reliability aka Toyota?) 4. Is thier anything pathbreaking in Gloster ? 5. What about customer service? Some answers are NO, while some answers are Don't Know . Now please explain to me why should I feel confident parting with my 50 bags of gold ![]() |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() In my view for this to create any kind of impact the top end model should not be priced more than 29.99 lakhs. It has to undercut the suv duo substantially other wise it wont make any inroads because both Endeavour and Fortuner have their aspirants and loyal customer base. |
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Don't want to take the thread anymore off-topic, but let's not be naive here. Harrier on-road price *leaked* to start at 16 lakhs - link Eventually launched at approximately 14 lakhs on-road - link 2 lakhs is quite a major difference for a 12 - 16 lakh car. It's all the difference between being "overpriced" and "value-for-money". |
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