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| ![]() As GTO pointed out, MG will have to pull out an ultra VFM card, if they are targeting some numbers for this SUV. Recently Mr.Hormazd Sorabjee (Autocar) tweeted : G L O S T E R will add another 1000 units pm for MG ! IMHO MG will be playing another 'more car per car' card here, as the product costs are much cheaper compared to its competition as it's manufactured in China ( priced at ₹16 Lakhs for 2.0L Turbo Petrol 2WD MT) and sold as CKD here. Going through the positioning and pricing in the Australian market , I guess GLOSTER will compete with Fortuner with a Kia Carnival kind of pricing , that may start at 24.95 Lakhs Ex.showroom with just one or two variants. Prices from Australian Market: MG GLOSTER (LDV D90 Diesel 2.0L/8AT/4WD) : 25 Lakhs, Petrol : 19-23 Lakhs. Skoda kodiaq 132 TSi 4x4 : 25 Lakhs. Kia Carnival Diesel : 26-36 Lakhs. Toyota Fortuner- 2.8L/6AT/4x4 : 29-36 Lakhs. Ford Endeavour 3.2L/6AT/2.0L/10AT/2WD/4WD : 29-43 Lakhs. Shocked to see the contrast in pricing of GLOSTER and Ford Endeavour in the Chinese market . GLOSTER retails at around 16-25 Lakhs where as Ford retails at around 28-36 Lakhs.Chinese manufacturers got a huge pricing advantage, for instance MG Hector petrol retails at about 7-12 Lakhs in China. Link Last edited by TorqueIndia : 8th September 2020 at 15:11. |
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In the Harrier case too, even the official Tata Motors twitter handle claimed the same 16 lakhs starting point tweet photo link and the link which you mentioned leads to an Autocar article where they predict the ex-showroom price to be 13.5 lakhs for the base variants which is about only 80k off from the launch price (unlike the 2L gap you mentioned). It was not a media house on a frenzy propagating a price tag bloated by 2 lakhs in order to fulfill a contract as you make us believe. So we can say that this a cheap tactic by the manufacturers themselves to leak or announce such prices but painting other media houses as all corrupt and calling out to say that it was them who intentionally as a part of a deal spread and justified those higher prices so that the actual prices seem VFM seems very naive. Last edited by Shreyas Agarwal : 8th September 2020 at 15:33. | |
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This is a marketing tactic, one that is used by companies, politicians, movie stars and anyone in the public limelight use this. They purposefully leak some info and do something else. Is there collusion? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Auto magazines are notorious for rigged reviews (not sure now but definitely in the 90's and early 2000's) and I can't even blame them as they depended on auto makers for access to cars. The same issue plagues cine magazines and even video game reviews. Nothing new or strange here, just business as usual. I base my judgement of pricing on how Chinese companies operate, from 5g to Fighter jets to cell phones to TV's to even the Hector, price wars (as they are all backed by the state) are the norm. Could I be wrong? Maybe but this is just an educated guess. | |
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An analogy that I can give is that I am an artist and I bought an iPhone or a Mac because of it's better ecosystem and support for my Arts needs but for every one customer like me there are three more customers in Apple showroom buying it to show off the Apple logo. If Fortuner was bought totally on it's merits then it's 4x2 variants really do not offer much over Innova top end in terms of features and Innova is probably more practical for a robust family mover purpose yet still somehow Fortuner 4x2 outsells it's 4x4 brother. Quote:
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| ![]() Came across this, Singaporean review of the Maxus D90. They appear to be going Gaga over it, including its handling prowess. https://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=1339 Also came across the zoomed in picture of the centre console. There are three buttons for the seat ventilation, can someone please explain why are there three buttons here? Last edited by 07CR : 8th September 2020 at 21:31. |
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But it feels too complex to use. How's that feature is carried out in the Verna? Isn't it a bit intuitive? ![]() | |
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| ![]() One button for driver seat ,one for passenger a.c ventilation and third for only fan in both seats. It is just my thinking , maybe I am wrong. |
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| ![]() The ones with arrows pointing upwards are for heated seats while the one with a fan is for the ventilated seat. |
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If you want to stick to "ex-showroom", then do go back and check the difference between the top variant's supposedly leaked "18 lakhs" ex-showroom price and the actual launch price of "16.25". It's 1.75 lakhs of a difference again! | ||
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| ![]() All the talk leading up to diwali is just strategy, setting the base for the upcoming launch, the numbers from which will then create a sense of value. There is no way this car is going to launched in the 40-50 lakh bracket. A simple Google search will reveal that it's a rebadged Maxus D90 and it's respective pricing in other markets. It's like what Amazon does. A product's actual price is Rs 100. The listing will show it as Rs 130, offer a 23% discount, and sell it for Rs 100. What this exercise does is that it creates a false sense of value in the eyes of the customer. Is that legal? Yes. Is that ethical? The lines get blurred here. It's a tactic employed quite freely. |
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| ![]() MG is naming their cars after old RAF planes / marques, I guess to convince people they still retain brit DNA even after becoming "china model". Hawker Hector, Gloster Gladiator .. |
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![]() Regarding the other part I think my actions were a by product of me not analysing your view correctly, I was laughing at myself for the remarks when I read about you being 17 ![]() | |
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I feel the automotive industry is new to this tactic. | |
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| ![]() Facelifted Fortuner and Upcoming MG Gloster spied together! Source:91wheels Instagram handle |
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