[MSJ]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

Not sure if this will be the right place to ask, what's the opinion of fellow members for somebody who has a relatively newer LC-200, should they sell and get close to purchase price (LC200 has some of the highest resales) and buy the new one when launched or hold on with LC200? .

Hello @Turbanator Sir, Although I didn't own one, but In my opinion, selling the current-gen LC200 for near about the same price is a good idea. the new one will have more tech (I'm sure you must be knowing this ), but the downside is that you will lose the diesel.

And I also think that the resale value will take a hit considering the stricter emission norms and NGT ban.

[volkman10]

More information about the Land Cruiser 300:


- Dimensions are larger, while the weight is reduced by 200 kg.( TNGA-F platform)

- 4950 mm x (ZX/ GR-S +15mm) x 1980 ( GR-S +10mm) x 1870 ( diesel is 1920), WB 2850 mm



- driver's seat meter system, divided into 7" or 4.2 "TFT multi colour infotainment display

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[DicKy]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

....and buy the new one when launched or hold on with LC200?

If they are looking for the latest model, would suggest to sell the LC when the price is hot and wait for TKM to launch the new one. The L300 will definitely be superior to the L200.

But personally, would hold onto it. It isn't for nothing that the Australian market has swallowed the last batch of LC200s. Last Toyota diesel V8. But that's just my opinion.

Another practical view. Most of the other engines are proven. The 4.0l V6 while bullet proof won't reach here, the twin turbo V6 petrol has proven itself in the Lexus LS. But the one most likely to be sold here would be the 3.3l V6 diesel. A brand new motor. Yeah..yeah. It is a Toyota, this is their flagship model. They will have your back when something goes wrong. Still better to wait for an year or two. Also I don't think the resale of the LC200 would get hit. If anything TKM will royally screw up the pricing and overprice the LC300, keeping the LC200 resale market in perpetual buoyancy.

Originally Posted by Turbanator

From whatever I can understand, LC200 is based on the Tundra whereas the newer one will be TNGA plus paltform. Could not find more details, but they must share this with likes of LC Prado/ Hilux and Fortuner.

The TNGA platform will underpin all future BoF Toyotas. Starting from the Landcruiser, it will underpin the Prado, the USDM Tundra, Sequoia, Tacoma, our Fortuner/Hilux/Innova. Nothing inferior here.

The LC200 uses the Tundra frame alright, but in a heavily modified form. Alongwith the engines. Rest all is different and over-engineered. So much that the bigger Tundra based Sequoia is priced at ~60% of the LC200's pricing.
So nothing inferior about the TNGA platform being used.

Originally Posted by MSJ

.... but the downside is that you will lose the diesel.

And I also think that the resale value will take a hit considering the stricter emission norms and NGT ban.

Guess the diesel will make it to our shores.

Please, am aware that it's a bitter reality especially for NCR members. But fearing NGT and some other draconian measures, we might as well sell our cars and start using some subscription or pay as you use stuff. Afterall that's what the big guys want.

Originally Posted by volkman10

- 4950 mm x (ZX/ GR-S +15mm) x 1980 ( GR-S +10mm) x 1870 ( diesel is 1920), WB 2850 mm
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- driver's seat meter system, divided into 7" or 4.2 "TFT multi colour infotainment display

Wonder why the diesel is higher.

Liked the instrument cluster. While the cheaper version looks like the existing one, like the way they left the (presumably) fuel/temperature gauges in their analogue forms for the expensive version. (Though loses the battery and oil pressure gauges)

[Vikram Arya]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

Not sure if this will be the right place to ask, what's the opinion of fellow members for somebody who has a relatively newer LC-200, should they sell and get close to purchase price (LC200 has some of the highest resales) and buy the new one when launched or hold on with LC200? Am sure, this decision will be easier when the newer one is out in the market but maybe than prices of LC200 can take a hit.

From whatever I can understand, LC200 is based on the Tundra whereas the newer one will be TNGA plus paltform. Could not find more details, but they must share this with likes of LC Prado/ Hilux and Fortuner.

Hello Raj,

I would hold on to the current-gen Land Cruiser. Yes, it is based on a heavily modified version of Tundra but I don't think that's a negative (a few years ago a Tundra pulled a Space Shuttle through the streets of LA that was to be displayed in California Science Centre).

From 2023 onwards 80% of all Toyota vehicles (not just body-on-frame SUVs) will use some variant of the TNGA platform. Supposedly TNGA costs 20 percent less to produce while offering increased chassis stiffness, lower centers of gravity for better handling, and lower hood cowls for better forward visibility.

As far as I have read the LC 300 will be offered with a 3.5-litre twin-turbo petrol V6, a hybrid version of the petrol V6, and an all-new 3.3-litre turbo diesel V6. I suspect Toyota will only offer the 3.3 ltr. turbo-diesel V6 in India provided its BS-6 compliant.

If the current owner has naturally aspirated V-8, I would not suggest selling it as this motor has the reputation of easily doing 5 to 6,00,000 kms without a problem (although this would not be a concern of the owner but it goes onto prove my point. Basically this is an indestructible motor).

With the LC 300 one more “Extra feature” that you will be saddled with is an overly complex set of electronics; something that I personally abhor. More of it you have, more there is to fail however if the owner is fond of latest & greatest gizmos then, of course, it is entirely up to him/her.

January this year I was seriously considering a Lexus GX 460 that comes with a 4.6 ltr. V-8 & the reason is 2022/23 GX will most definitely come with a turbo petrol V-6 or a hybrid of some sort.

Let me throw it out there; the very reason this person (and I think I know who you’re talking about ) got the LC 200 and not the X-7 or a Range Rover or an Audi Q-7 is that he values reliability & niggle free ownership more than bells and whistles (you know this, LC 200 is at least 10 years behind these vehicles as far as technology is concerned but then that’s not the reason people all over the world buy LC-200).

Even if the new generation LC turns out to be a brilliant vehicle, I would still wait for a couple of years (yes, even if it’s a Toyota) so that all the TSB’s are taken care of. And I believe, the person will still get very good value for LC 200 as these vehicles are seldom cross-shopped other than maybe with a Nissan Petrol/Caddilac Escalade/Infinity QX-80 or its twin brother in a tuxedo; Lexus LX-570.

[volkman10]

The very first pic of the 2022 Land Cruiser VIII !




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[TorqueIndia]

Looks so scary , I doubt if there is a real platform upgrade. Hoping Toyota made it modern enough for another 10years, otherwise it will be called as another lame attempt. Frankly speaking I was expecting something like say a Lincoln Navigator.

[Turbanator]

Why does this look more of a Fortuner? Even the size of RVM and no bonnet scoop? Air dams/ fog lamp space, on the front bumper also appears to very Fortuner like!

This can’t be the LC-300, if this is indeed, then no comments

[CEF_Beasts]

Originally Posted by volkman10

The very first pic of the 2022 Land Cruiser VIII !

Attachment 2146860

This to me looks like an aftermarket grill and trio-beam headlights (akin to the Lexus range) has been attached on the LC200.

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

Why does this look more of a Fortuner? Even the size of RVM and no bonnet scoop? Air dams/ fog lamp space, on the front bumper also appears to very Fortuner like!

This can’t be the LC-300, if this is indeed, then no comments

Originally Posted by CEF_Beasts

This to me looks like an aftermarket grill and trio-beam headlights (akin to the Lexus range) has been attached on the LC200.

It loosely follows the earlier rendered/ scoop circulated earlier!

[TorqueIndia]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

Why does this look more of a Fortuner? Even the size of RVM and no bonnet scoop? Air dams/ fog lamp space, on the front bumper also appears to very Fortuner like!

This can't be the LC-300, if this is indeed, then no comments

Yup, it seems correct. Looks like a kitted current generation car. Also registration plate looks like that of QATAR.

The scoop images suggests shoulder line mounted ORVMs. I guess we can dismiss this spyshot.

[CEF_Beasts]

Originally Posted by volkman10

It loosely follows the earlier rendered/ scoop circulated earlier!

Here have a look, another LC200 with the same body kit in black.

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by volkman10

The very first pic of the 2022 Land Cruiser VIII !

Attachment 2146860


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Sure it's the next gen?

Looks more like the present gen with bodykit. And looking at the Qatar plates, maybe even a GCC market special edition.

[jobug]

https://www.aboudcar.com/vehicles/to...AT_petrol_2021


It's no 2022..

[volkman10]

Land cruiser 300!





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[CEF_Beasts]

The Land Cruiser J300 is finally here!

Front end is sleeker but the presence due to the width of the SUV is massive!