The most over & under rated car in India

DayTripperGH · 21st March 2009, 19:08

Underrated

IKON 1.6 - for some reason I never hear people speak about this brilliant car. Sure the brakes were not really up to the mark, but it handles and delivers power well.

Ocatvia Petrol [be it a vRS or the new Ambience or whatever its called] - Superb engine, brilliant suspension, and best of all it doesn't handle like a big car [it feels big but it's quite nimble i would say].

Over rated -

Civic - Don't get me wrong, I love the Civic. Absolutely brilliant car, but it's not nearly as godly as I've found people to think it to be. It has a low ground clearance and the A-pillars are blatantly obstructing your field of vision. The dashboard looks futuristic, but a little too futuristic in my opinion. The gear shift is wayy too far from the steering wheel, for short people like me it's really a pain to reach your hand out that far to shift gears.

Swift - I don't understand why this car is appealing. It moves decently, not nearly fast enough to be called a swift in my opinion. It's cramped and feels tacky. And last but not least it's extremely ugly.

No offense to any Swift owners here though =). I know that everyone has a different taste is looks and style and everyone has different needs from a car, so I understand why someone would want to buy it. I'm just stating that it's not for me.

YC.BALENO.CHD · 23rd March 2009, 01:52

Yes I agree that Ikon 1.6 was a decent car,had a good engine,handling was a great package,it had a fair bit of body-roll,but it was a car in which one would get his line correct in the middle of a corner without geting into a hairy situation.

Coming to swift,its certainly not Overrated,its a good package,has great handling for a hatch,someone just see those hyundais and chevys in that segment,you will find them in dust when you will compare the hadling of swift in them.Talking about the engine,its a peppy and free revving engine,and its not just the Indians,the car has been much loved internationally as well.Although those sport a different engine but still the indian swift too is far from being an average car.Sure its small and build quality is certainly not good enough,but then there is nothing like a perfect car(barring the ROLLS..).Looks ofcourse is a matter of debate and to some it may be ugly but to the most its a smart little cheeky car.

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pramod · 23rd March 2009, 14:45

I feel, Fiesta 1.6 type 2 is the most under rated vehicle.
Reasons for that:
1. There is the diesel variant -- Ppl speak about Fiesta only in terms of the Diesel variant.
2. As a owner of a 1.6 petrol, i frankly feel that it is a better package interms of handling, cornering ability, power and looks compared to the baleno, and on par with the OHC.
3. On this forum, ppl are now slowly tilting towards the Fiesta because of the introduction of the 1.6S. But guys, the old and the new fiesta have the same engine without any new tuning. And btw, the type 2 had a softer suspension for better ride quality.

So, i duely feel, Fiesta 1.6 is under rated.

Over-rated:
Swift Diesel and Petrol --> it looks plastic to me and have driven it and dint find it a prodigy.

sushanthr77 · 23rd March 2009, 15:58

Overated:
01. Wagon R
02. Bolero
03. CRV
04. NHC
05. Alto
06. Fabia - with the current engine options & price
07. Estilo
08. Safari
09. i10
10. Linea - with the current engine options
11. Swift P

Underrated:
01. Fiesta S 1.6
02. Magnum
03. Getz D
04. Palio / Petra
05. Baleno
06. Sonata
07. Vista
08. Cedia
09. Captiva
10. Fusion

johnjose70 · 23rd March 2009, 16:31

Underrated cars:
Hyundai Getz CRDi
Elantra CRDi
Baleno
Fiesta P

Overrated
Linea
I 10
Safari
Laura

sukrit7 · 23rd March 2009, 16:37

@sushanthr77, i don't get it, baleno is in your overrated as well as underrated list.
I feel most underrated car is the baleno altura, barely sold due to its pricing but cbu japan is a pleasure to drive

gaurav_chopra04 · 23rd March 2009, 17:12

Mitsubishi cedia! definately the most under rated car in India.

sushanthr77 · 24th March 2009, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by sukrit7

@sushanthr77, i don't get it, baleno is in your overrated as well as underrated list.
I feel most underrated car is the baleno altura, barely sold due to its pricing but cbu japan is a pleasure to drive

I can't find the Baleno in the overrated list!

Or was that Bolero?!!

LOVE HER(ALD)! · 24th March 2009, 14:25

I totally agree with DayTripper with his list of under-rated and over-rated cars. The Ikon 1.6 sure was a fab car but never got the fame it deserved. One car that I would like to add here is:
Maruti Alto: The adjectives that come to mind when talking about the Alto are - tinny, cramped, ugly, down-market etc. Though I don't own one, I had a chance to drive it recently. I was amazed by the capability of the 800cc engine, its relatively solid build compared to cars in its class and its pleasant road manners. It deserves some merit on these grounds.

para_7k · 26th March 2009, 16:57

Over-rated:

1. MS Zen Estilo
2. Hyundai i10 1.1 (not kappa)
3. MS Swift Dzire
4. Chevrolet Spark
5. Fiat Linea
6. Indica Vista Petrol

Under-rated

1. MS Baleno (same engine on SX4 sells

)
2. Daewoo Matiz
3. Mitsubishi Cedia
4. Hyundai Elantra
5. Fiat Palio 1.6
6. Tata Safari DiCOR
7. Maruti Versa (not a performer or handler but enough practicality for the price)

Meer · 26th March 2009, 19:59

Under-rated:
1. Baleno
2. Palio
3. Getz
5. Cedia

Over-rated:
1. Safari
2. Fabia
3. Linea
4. NHC

supremeBaleno · 26th March 2009, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by para_7k

Under-rated
1. MS Baleno (same engine on SX4 sells

)

The engines on the Baleno and SX4 are not the same. Only thing in common is both being 1600cc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meer

Over-rated:
3. Linea

Usually Fiat cars in India come in the under-rated list on this thread. Linea seems to have bucked the trend by being over-rated.

para_7k · 26th March 2009, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

The engines on the Baleno and SX4 are not the same. Only thing in common is both being 1600cc.

Sorry I didn't know that. I happened to be in Indonesia last year and found that the SX4 was named "Baleno" there. I thought SX4's engine was a tweaked version of Baleno's. Something like Esteem and Swift.

YC.BALENO.CHD · 28th March 2009, 01:53

Quote:

The engines on the Baleno and SX4 are not the same. Only thing in common is both being 1600cc.

Is it?Is the sx4's engine an all new unit?Correct me if i am wrong but as far as i know its the same base motor with a different ECU module and some other minor bits.

supremeBaleno · 28th March 2009, 12:45

The SX4 sports a different series engine altogether. IIRC, it is the M-series, while the Baleno has the G-series.

21st March 2009, 19:08	#451
DayTripperGH Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 13 Thanked: 0 Times	Underrated IKON 1.6 - for some reason I never hear people speak about this brilliant car. Sure the brakes were not really up to the mark, but it handles and delivers power well. Ocatvia Petrol [be it a vRS or the new Ambience or whatever its called] - Superb engine, brilliant suspension, and best of all it doesn't handle like a big car [it feels big but it's quite nimble i would say]. Over rated - Civic - Don't get me wrong, I love the Civic. Absolutely brilliant car, but it's not nearly as godly as I've found people to think it to be. It has a low ground clearance and the A-pillars are blatantly obstructing your field of vision. The dashboard looks futuristic, but a little too futuristic in my opinion. The gear shift is wayy too far from the steering wheel, for short people like me it's really a pain to reach your hand out that far to shift gears. Swift - I don't understand why this car is appealing. It moves decently, not nearly fast enough to be called a swift in my opinion. It's cramped and feels tacky. And last but not least it's extremely ugly. No offense to any Swift owners here though =). I know that everyone has a different taste is looks and style and everyone has different needs from a car, so I understand why someone would want to buy it. I'm just stating that it's not for me.
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23rd March 2009, 01:52	#452
YC.BALENO.CHD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 261 Times View My Garage	Yes I agree that Ikon 1.6 was a decent car,had a good engine,handling was a great package,it had a fair bit of body-roll,but it was a car in which one would get his line correct in the middle of a corner without geting into a hairy situation. Coming to swift,its certainly not Overrated,its a good package,has great handling for a hatch,someone just see those hyundais and chevys in that segment,you will find them in dust when you will compare the hadling of swift in them.Talking about the engine,its a peppy and free revving engine,and its not just the Indians,the car has been much loved internationally as well.Although those sport a different engine but still the indian swift too is far from being an average car.Sure its small and build quality is certainly not good enough,but then there is nothing like a perfect car(barring the ROLLS..).Looks ofcourse is a matter of debate and to some it may be ugly but to the most its a smart little cheeky car. Note from Mods : Please try to use spaces after punctuation marks in order to ease readability. Take a look at this thread for details. Thanks. Last edited by Rehaan : 23rd March 2009 at 02:50. Reason: Please see note in post.
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23rd March 2009, 14:45	#453
pramod BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 480 Thanked: 323 Times View My Garage	I feel, Fiesta 1.6 type 2 is the most under rated vehicle. Reasons for that: 1. There is the diesel variant -- Ppl speak about Fiesta only in terms of the Diesel variant. 2. As a owner of a 1.6 petrol, i frankly feel that it is a better package interms of handling, cornering ability, power and looks compared to the baleno, and on par with the OHC. 3. On this forum, ppl are now slowly tilting towards the Fiesta because of the introduction of the 1.6S. But guys, the old and the new fiesta have the same engine without any new tuning. And btw, the type 2 had a softer suspension for better ride quality. So, i duely feel, Fiesta 1.6 is under rated. Over-rated: Swift Diesel and Petrol --> it looks plastic to me and have driven it and dint find it a prodigy.
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23rd March 2009, 15:58	#454
sushanthr77 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mangalore / DXB Posts: 280 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Not in the order mentioned Overated: 01. Wagon R 02. Bolero 03. CRV 04. NHC 05. Alto 06. Fabia - with the current engine options & price 07. Estilo 08. Safari 09. i10 10. Linea - with the current engine options 11. Swift P Underrated: 01. Fiesta S 1.6 02. Magnum 03. Getz D 04. Palio / Petra 05. Baleno 06. Sonata 07. Vista 08. Cedia 09. Captiva 10. Fusion Last edited by sushanthr77 : 23rd March 2009 at 16:00.
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23rd March 2009, 16:31	#455
johnjose70 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bangalore, Calicut Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	Underrated cars: Hyundai Getz CRDi Elantra CRDi Baleno Fiesta P Overrated Linea I 10 Safari Laura
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23rd March 2009, 16:37	#456
sukrit7 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: delhi Posts: 723 Thanked: 185 Times	@sushanthr77, i don't get it, baleno is in your overrated as well as underrated list. I feel most underrated car is the baleno altura, barely sold due to its pricing but cbu japan is a pleasure to drive
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23rd March 2009, 17:12	#457
gaurav_chopra04 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 572 Times View My Garage	Mitsubishi cedia! definately the most under rated car in India.
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24th March 2009, 14:25	#459
LOVE HER(ALD)! BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 78 Thanked: 27 Times	I totally agree with DayTripper with his list of under-rated and over-rated cars. The Ikon 1.6 sure was a fab car but never got the fame it deserved. One car that I would like to add here is: Maruti Alto: The adjectives that come to mind when talking about the Alto are - tinny, cramped, ugly, down-market etc. Though I don't own one, I had a chance to drive it recently. I was amazed by the capability of the 800cc engine, its relatively solid build compared to cars in its class and its pleasant road manners. It deserves some merit on these grounds.
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26th March 2009, 16:57	#460
para_7k BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: chennai Posts: 473 Thanked: 164 Times	Over-rated: 1. MS Zen Estilo 2. Hyundai i10 1.1 (not kappa) 3. MS Swift Dzire 4. Chevrolet Spark 5. Fiat Linea 6. Indica Vista Petrol Under-rated 1. MS Baleno (same engine on SX4 sells ) 2. Daewoo Matiz 3. Mitsubishi Cedia 4. Hyundai Elantra 5. Fiat Palio 1.6 6. Tata Safari DiCOR 7. Maruti Versa (not a performer or handler but enough practicality for the price)
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26th March 2009, 19:59	#461
Meer BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 264 Thanked: 189 Times View My Garage	Under-rated: 1. Baleno 2. Palio 3. Getz 5. Cedia Over-rated: 1. Safari 2. Fabia 3. Linea 4. NHC Last edited by Meer : 26th March 2009 at 20:00. Reason: Spelling mistake
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28th March 2009, 12:45	#465
supremeBaleno Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai / Kochi Posts: 5,630 Thanked: 2,718 Times View My Garage	The SX4 sports a different series engine altogether. IIRC, it is the M-series, while the Baleno has the G-series.
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