Quote:
Originally Posted by Vid6639 Nice comparison. The differences between the 2 are more skin deep than outer dimensions. I've sat in both so let me elaborate:
1. The Kodiaq 2nd row is much more wider by 60mm. This is difference between 3 people at the back and 2. So the Karoq is almost like a 4 with the middle a squeeze.
2. Same for legroom. I was disappointed with the rear legroom of the Karoq. I was expecting close to Creta but this was just average. And the seats don't recline! India doesn't get the vario flex seats like the older Yeti had.
3. The ground clearance is lesser cause of the rear AWD axle which lowers the height of lowest point. The Kodiaq is AWD + rear independent suspension.
4. Audio quality in the Karoq was nowhere as good as Kodiaq as they removed the rear subwoofer, centre speaker and Canton DSP system.
5. No powered tailgate in the KAroq! The Hector has this now
6. No electric passenger seat. The Octavia had this even in the lower Onyx trim.
7. No drive modes. The Karoq only has a S mode for gearbox. The Kodiaq has steering modes, AC mode, light modes, performance modes as well as off road mode.
8. Rear climate control. Not a big deal but nice.
There are other differences as well but many minor ones. |
Hi there, Sorry but I tend to disagree with you on certain points. I have tested the new creta as well as seltos (infact harrier and seltos both are parked besides my Karoq as well because they are of my neighbour who is a dear friend). I have driven his cars a lot and sat in their back seats regularly. Here are my observations:
Karoq has more leg room than new creta & seltos at the rear (and it’s wider at the back, so 3 people can sit more comfortably). We have personally went on a short tripa where 3 adults were seating in the rear of Karoq and they were comfortable. I agree Kodiaq has More space at the rear (obviously it’s dimensions are bigger so it ought to), but what I meant to say was it’s not a huge difference (huge difference means when you compare it with something like XUV 500’s rear seat).
Definitely non-reclining rear seats and lack of verioflex system in Indian Karoq is a huge downside
Also If you solely look at rear space, even better than Kodiaq will be something like XUV 500 (I personally own one) & Hector (both also have completely flat rear floor as well). Especially XUV is very wide at the back & even 4 adults have sat in the 2nd row and went for a highway trip without any issues (personal experience).
Again not comparing it with Kodiaq as such, just telling you solely about the space factor if you want to know that.
Also you got me wrong, I didn’t aim to compare Kodiaq and Karoq (with features and specs).
I was actually trying to compare it size when parked side by side for reference of fellow BHPians (that how the newly launched Karoq looks along side it’s elder sister). And I was describing the general ambience of the car when you looksit inside, it’s very similar. Materials of dash/ centre console, infotainment, steering, gear lever area and even the light switches, virtual cockpit are exactly similar. There’s a lot of part sharing between the two (& I don’t think that’s a bad thing at all as Kodiaq has good quality interiors.
But now that you have started to compare them, here the the
Minor differences between Karoq & Kodiaq:
1) Wooden trim on Kodiaq’s
dash vs aluminium trim on karoq
2)
Ambient lights in the karoq are also there on the front dash (in Kodiaq it’s only on door panels). Small difference but mentioning here as these small differences are what makes the two car unique (otherwise they are mostly similar).
3) In
L&K Kodiaq you get 12 speaker canton speaker system (karoq has 8 speaker, so it misses out on subwoofer and centre dash speaker as you mentioned).
4) Also, you get a
nap package in Kodiaq L&K and door rubber protection (as soon as you open the door, it pops out to protect the door of your car against bashing to something else).
5) One major pro for the Kodiaq:
AWD system with independent rear as you said (but everyone knows it’s a soft roader, see it’s approach & departure angles along with its ground clearance). If you want 4x4, better look at Endy/fortune. Karoq does have electronic limited slip differential (LSD), which can help you in wet/sticky roads if you encounter one. But definitely none of the two are off-roaders. Also, Kodiaq has drive modes due to AWD system only (which Indian Karoq doesn’t have cause it’s 4x2). So both these points are related.
6) there’s a
huge disadvantage for Kodiaq due to that huge size and 4x4 system (apart from lower ground clearance). It makes the car heavy and due to taller stance and longer size, Kodiaq is neither as fast/agile as Karoq nor does it have better driving Dynamics.
Body roll in Karoq is close to non-existent and it handles great around the corner (which Kodiaq comprises a bit on). Also
Kodiaq 2.0 TDI (150bhp, 340nm) does 0-100 in 10.5 seconds (while karoq 1.5 TSI does in 9 seconds). In my testing, I
didn’t find Kodiaq to be as fun to drive as Karoq (Kodiaq is begging to get a 2.0 TSI 190 bhp motor found in Tiguan Allspace, as Kodiaq is heavy and 2.0 TDI feels underpowered for it).
7)
Boot space: obviously more on Kodiaq: 720ltr (3rd row folded) Vs 521 ltr
8)
Extra Comfort/Convenience features in Kodiaq: 360 degree cam, ventilated seats, autonomous parking, electric tailgate & electric front passenger seats& 3rd zone climate control (all these features are missing in the Indian Karoq).
9)
Turning radius: 5.1M (Karoq) Vs 6.1M (Kodiaq)
10) Finally
price,
Kodiaq L&K used to costed
44L on road, delhi (BS4 version) VS
Karoq 30L (BS6). so there’s a good 15L price difference.
Apart from all these differences, rest everything is ditto in both the cars from interior materials used to all the parts shared (even the centre console buttons, front HVAC system, infotainment screen, seating comfort, steering wheel, light/wiper switches, aircon vents, Virtual cockpit display, dash top material & door materials, etc). In Karoq, You do get a feel that you have come to sit in a mini Kodiaq (which I guess is both a good and a bad thing as Kodiaq is great to begin with, but KAORQ looses out on its individuality due to which, many tend to describe it just as a “5 seater Kodiaq”).
I have mentioned all the differences in detail,
now it’s upto the consumer to decide if extra 14-15L more is worth it for the Kodiaq with the extra features it offers over Karoq.
And I have already shared pics of both the cars side by side, so not attaching them here again (for size comparison in real life, look at those pics to get an idea).