Fiat Grande Punto. EDIT : Launch on 17th June!

Fountainheader · 21st February 2009, 01:20

If the Punto will use the MJD, then what will happen to the Palio SD* ?

So this Mangesh chap uses the term "Swift Diesel" for the MJD ?

Silver Knight · 21st February 2009, 23:50

No doubt GP will be a rockstar. but can it take away people flocking at Maruti counters for the Swift DDis?
Still there is little effort from Fiat to improve their A*S*S. And its a fact that tata's have one of the worst service centers in India. Should I name a few in Kerala?

Unless and until there is a serious turnaround in After sales service I doubt GP will sell in large numbers even if priced on par with the Swift. Novelty factor will dry down quick and should I need toepeat some cliches about Fiat India?

drpullockaran · 22nd February 2009, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Fountainheader

If the Punto will use the MJD, then what will happen to the Palio SD* ?

So this Mangesh chap uses the term "Swift Diesel" for the MJD ?

He used the term1.3 not disclosing whether it is a vgt or fgt. I presume it is the 1.3 and hoping it will be atleast the 1.3vgt as otherwise they would have to kill off the MJD.

drpullockaran · 22nd February 2009, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Silver Knight

No doubt GP will be a rockstar. but can it take away people flocking at Maruti counters for the Swift DDis?

This is exactly what I have been trying to impress upon the FIAT management. Unless they have an exclusive engine like the 1.6vgt for the Linea and Punto its going to be very difficult to voo the Maruti customers who form the majority of the diesel car buying public.
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amit · 22nd February 2009, 15:58

We can request, pray, beg, threaten Fiat as much as we want but the fact is that the GP will come with the same engines as the Linea. It may also get the 1.2 petrol to take advantage of the excise benefit and that will make the GP another Palio 1.1 but thats another story altogether. I guess we will have to wait till 2011-2012 for the T-Jet and 1.6 MJD units when the 'all new' GP will be launched.

sidindica · 22nd February 2009, 19:59

punto is planned at a killer price of about 4.25 L starting for petrol and 4.75 L for 1.3 MJD when it is expected on 24th april.

training is scheduled for first week of april in mumbai. watch this space.

SkyWalker · 22nd February 2009, 20:14

4.75L for a 1.3VGT GP rocks. Hope they a have a fully loaded version with all safety features under 6L.

live2drive · 22nd February 2009, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

punto is planned at a killer price of about 4.25 L starting for petrol and 4.75 L for 1.3 MJD when it is expected on 24th april.

training is scheduled for first week of april in mumbai. watch this space.

Wow that's a killa price. 4.75L for a MJD.

luky_13 · 22nd February 2009, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

punto is planned at a killer price of about 4.25 L starting for petrol and 4.75 L for 1.3 MJD when it is expected on 24th april.

training is scheduled for first week of april in mumbai. watch this space.

A date 'at last', and as always 'Sid' is the 'man'. Unfortunately FIAT has missed the 31Mar deadline which is important to claim depreciation benifits for businessmen like me (already booked a LINEA Emotion +).
1.3 MJD is going to give a lot of things on 4 wheels a run for their money !!

Comrade · 22nd February 2009, 20:39

4.75L for diesel is on par with Swift LDi. killer price for such a spacious car. Guess they are bringing 75bhp version in direct competition with Swift. is it bye-bye palio then?

SilentEngine · 22nd February 2009, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

punto is planned at a killer price of about 4.25 L starting for petrol and 4.75 L for 1.3 MJD when it is expected on 24th april.

training is scheduled for first week of april in mumbai. watch this space.

That's killer pricing. But what engine does the base petrol model have? I guess it will be 1.2L.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade

4.75L for diesel is on par with Swift LDi. killer price for such a spacious car. Guess they are bringing 75bhp version in direct competition with Swift. is it bye-bye palio then?

I seriously hope Punto diesel comes with 1.3L VGT. What are they going to gain by plonking 75 bhp version?

nikhil_d1106 · 23rd February 2009, 00:18

The pricing looks great, but at that pricing wouldn't it also affect Vista sales??

prasanth · 23rd February 2009, 00:21

if its 4.75L for the diesel then its going to be the 75bhp version. I hope atleast the top end would have the 90bhp engine.

vineethvazhayil · 23rd February 2009, 09:48

At the specified price point, and with no visible improvements in *** from the Tata Fiat combine, GP and Palio will share whatever sales Palio already has, perhaps also eat into Indica Vista sales as well. After all, how long can novelty keep it going?

maverickxx2006 · 23rd February 2009, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

punto is planned at a killer price of about 4.25 L starting for petrol and 4.75 L for 1.3 MJD when it is expected on 24th april.

training is scheduled for first week of april in mumbai. watch this space.

With GP available for 4.75L wonder what they would do with Palio MJD..? Looks like they will phase out Palio MJD soon now..

21st February 2009, 01:20	#376
Fountainheader Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 1,501 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	If the Punto will use the MJD, then what will happen to the Palio SD* ? So this Mangesh chap uses the term "Swift Diesel" for the MJD ?
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21st February 2009, 23:50	#377
Silver Knight BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Trichur Posts: 227 Thanked: 516 Times	No doubt GP will be a rockstar. but can it take away people flocking at Maruti counters for the Swift DDis? Still there is little effort from Fiat to improve their ASS. And its a fact that tata's have one of the worst service centers in India. Should I name a few in Kerala? Unless and until there is a serious turnaround in After sales service I doubt GP will sell in large numbers even if priced on par with the Swift. Novelty factor will dry down quick and should I need toepeat some cliches about Fiat India?
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22nd February 2009, 15:58	#380
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,712 Thanked: 451 Times	We can request, pray, beg, threaten Fiat as much as we want but the fact is that the GP will come with the same engines as the Linea. It may also get the 1.2 petrol to take advantage of the excise benefit and that will make the GP another Palio 1.1 but thats another story altogether. I guess we will have to wait till 2011-2012 for the T-Jet and 1.6 MJD units when the 'all new' GP will be launched.
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22nd February 2009, 19:59	#381
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 4,904 Thanked: 8,362 Times	punto is planned at a killer price of about 4.25 L starting for petrol and 4.75 L for 1.3 MJD when it is expected on 24th april. training is scheduled for first week of april in mumbai. watch this space.
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22nd February 2009, 20:14	#382
SkyWalker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,528 Thanked: 136 Times	4.75L for a 1.3VGT GP rocks. Hope they a have a fully loaded version with all safety features under 6L.
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22nd February 2009, 20:39	#385
Comrade BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: HYD Posts: 695 Thanked: 2,030 Times	4.75L for diesel is on par with Swift LDi. killer price for such a spacious car. Guess they are bringing 75bhp version in direct competition with Swift. is it bye-bye palio then?
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23rd February 2009, 00:18	#387
nikhil_d1106 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 105 Thanked: 55 Times	The pricing looks great, but at that pricing wouldn't it also affect Vista sales??
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23rd February 2009, 00:21	#388
prasanth BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ernakulam Posts: 70 Thanked: Once	if its 4.75L for the diesel then its going to be the 75bhp version. I hope atleast the top end would have the 90bhp engine.
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23rd February 2009, 09:48	#389
vineethvazhayil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,514 Thanked: 459 Times View My Garage	At the specified price point, and with no visible improvements in *** from the Tata Fiat combine, GP and Palio will share whatever sales Palio already has, perhaps also eat into Indica Vista sales as well. After all, how long can novelty keep it going?
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