[lordavenger]

Originally Posted by abhishekjoshi84

1. Does AP have a short term/entry tax valid for 1 year as mentioned by LordAvenger?

Hi. Apologies for the late reply. Exams and all.

In short, no one knows! I even went to the RTO near Miyapur and they are in complete chaos due to the new state formation. A helpful officer had this to offer: it is only allowed for 3 months, after which you have to renew every subsequent quarter till 1 year. Another soul chipped in that the law was going to change under Telengana.

That being said, one fool proof method if you are staying for a short duration is to take the car out of state every once in a while. The Karnataka border is quite close by. Have been stopped twice, and both times had a toll slip not older than a month.

Alternatively, there does not seem too much trouble around Gachibowli. Both times I was stopped further into the city: near Banjara Hills to be precise.

[gauravdgr8]

Originally Posted by abhishekjoshi84

So questions are:
1. Does AP have a short term/entry tax valid for 1 year as mentioned by LordAvenger?

No. You have to pay the full tax. How old is your car? If it's more than 3 years old, they will charge 10% road tax (It's 12-14% for new cars)

Originally Posted by abhishekjoshi84

2. If not and only Life time tax provision is there, will there be any problem in paying the tax without NOC from Pune? Some of the folks here have mentioned that tax can be paid even without an NOC, just wanted to confirm.

NOC is not needed. They only want your money. When the cops stop you, need only show the tax paid paper. That's it.

Originally Posted by abhishekjoshi84

3. If I end up paying life time tax in Hyd, I will probably try to wrap up the loan early and then get it registered in Hyderabad in a year or so. Alternatively, will keep driving for some more time and then sell off the car in Maharashtra. Question is, If I just pay the LTT in Hyderabad, and keep driving the car for more than a year (As per law I should get it registered in AP if I am there for more than a year), would Cops/RTO guys give trouble?

No issues. As mentioned earlier, they only want the tax to be paid. They are fine if you do not re-register your car in Telangana.

Originally Posted by abhishekjoshi84

4. If I pay LTT in AP and then come back to Maharashtra some time later, can I get partial refund from AP on the LTT I paid earlier? and what would be the process for that?

Ahhh..That's a million dollar question. Well, many have tried, in vain or with some success.

Let's say your car is 3 years old and you paid 10% of the invoice amount of the car, after 2 years, they might return you 5-6% if you are lucky. That too after 6-10 months of you running around.

My friend and colleague came from Bangalore with with Fiesta Classic in 2010. He was caught by the cops once in 2012 March. They took his RC. Then again at a different place in 2012 Sep. He had to pay 71k on the spot to avoid car being siezed.

Fingers crossed and touch wood, I have been a little lucky. I do not subscribe to the idea of KA & AP governments having their own set of rules which do not match with the CMVR. I have driven 2 different cars in Hyderabad in the last 4 years belonging to CG. Why? Because the tax is 6%. Saves me a year's fuel cost. Simple.

What did I do to not get caught?

Know all the places in the city where the cops stand, where the RTO stands and which alternatives to take. Done a lot of driving during initial days.

Other times, well..that's a secret. But never given a penny as bribe.

So which all places do the cops look out for out state cars:

1. Mindspace circle/Lemon Tree
2. Outside Wells Fargo/Coming out of Lanco Hills
3. Sometimes turning of Canon Show before Daspalla Hotel
4. While turning from Banjara Hills to the Film Nagar Road
5. While coming up from Krishna Nagar, as soon as you take a left towards Jubilee Hills
6. While taking a left to Road no. 10 Jubilee Hills, just before SVM mall
7. When you enter Raj Bhavan road from Khairatabad
8. When you take a left to go towards Lakdikapul from Khairatabad
9. Outside Karachi Bakery signal - Mozamzahi Market
10. After crossing Salarjung museum, going towards Malakpet
11. Outside Yellama temple - Balkampet or that road uptil Balanagar (both sides)
12. Chintal (if at all you venture that side of the city)
13. Coming from Miyapur towards Gachibowli, after crossing the bridge
14. Sometimes inside Manikonda
15. Under Masab tank flyover towards airport
16. Outside High Court

Where all you will not find them:

1. Secunderabad - Never
2. Old city - Nowhere except high court. Why would a outstation guy go there.
3. Housing areas of Banjara Hills, Jubilee Hills,
4. The entire stretch between Paradise - Begumpet - Panjagutta - LV Prasad - KBR Park - SVM - uptill the Canon showroom I mentioned above.
5. Nowhere near Secunderabad station.
6. Nowhere on the way to airport, except point no. 15 which can be bypassed very easily.

Route 4 above is to reach Hitec city. You can bypass them at Canon showroom. Just take the left at Brand Factory and the first right. You would come to an intersection where they would be to your right by some 30 feet, but would not come to know


Well let me know where you stay and I can be of help.

Hope this long post is of some help to you and my 4 year research pays off a little bit.

[abhishekjoshi84]

Originally Posted by gauravdgr8

No. You have to pay the full tax. How old is your car? If it's more than 3 years old, they will charge 10% road tax (It's 12-14% for new cars)



NOC is not needed. They only want your money. When the cops stop you, need only show the tax paid paper. That's it.



No issues. As mentioned earlier, they only want the tax to be paid. They are fine if you do not re-register your car in Telangana.




Ahhh..That's a million dollar question. Well, many have tried, in vain or with some success.

Let's say your car is 3 years old and you paid 10% of the invoice amount of the car, after 2 years, they might return you 5-6% if you are lucky. That too after 6-10 months of you running around.

My friend and colleague came from Bangalore with with Fiesta Classic in 2010. He was caught by the cops once in 2012 March. They took his RC. Then again at a different place in 2012 Sep. He had to pay 71k on the spot to avoid car being siezed.

Fingers crossed and touch wood, I have been a little lucky. I do not subscribe to the idea of KA & AP governments having their own set of rules which do not match with the CMVR. I have driven 2 different cars in Hyderabad in the last 4 years belonging to CG. Why? Because the tax is 6%. Saves me a year's fuel cost. Simple.

What did I do to not get caught?

Know all the places in the city where the cops stand, where the RTO stands and which alternatives to take. Done a lot of driving during initial days.

Other times, well..that's a secret. But never given a penny as bribe.

So which all places do the cops look out for out state cars:

1. Mindspace circle/Lemon Tree
2. Outside Wells Fargo/Coming out of Lanco Hills
3. Sometimes turning of Canon Show before Daspalla Hotel
4. While turning from Banjara Hills to the Film Nagar Road
5. While coming up from Krishna Nagar, as soon as you take a left towards Jubilee Hills
6. While taking a left to Road no. 10 Jubilee Hills, just before SVM mall
7. When you enter Raj Bhavan road from Khairatabad
8. When you take a left to go towards Lakdikapul from Khairatabad
9. Outside Karachi Bakery signal - Mozamzahi Market
10. After crossing Salarjung museum, going towards Malakpet
11. Outside Yellama temple - Balkampet or that road uptil Balanagar (both sides)
12. Chintal (if at all you venture that side of the city)
13. Coming from Miyapur towards Gachibowli, after crossing the bridge
14. Sometimes inside Manikonda
15. Under Masab tank flyover towards airport
16. Outside High Court

Where all you will not find them:

1. Secunderabad - Never
2. Old city - Nowhere except high court. Why would a outstation guy go there.
3. Housing areas of Banjara Hills, Jubilee Hills,
4. The entire stretch between Paradise - Begumpet - Panjagutta - LV Prasad - KBR Park - SVM - uptill the Canon showroom I mentioned above.
5. Nowhere near Secunderabad station.
6. Nowhere on the way to airport, except point no. 15 which can be bypassed very easily.

Route 4 above is to reach Hitec city. You can bypass them at Canon showroom. Just take the left at Brand Factory and the first right. You would come to an intersection where they would be to your right by some 30 feet, but would not come to know


Well let me know where you stay and I can be of help.

Hope this long post is of some help to you and my 4 year research pays off a little bit.

Thanks for the detailed answer. That certainly helped clear up most of the things.
Coming to my present situation, I was able to convinve the SBI Manager that as per law I need to get my vehicle re-registered to any place where I have been staying over a year and if SBI provides NOC only on condition that it can not be re-registered then I will be forced to break the law. This statement helped him arrive at conclusion that it would be in ineterest of everyone to provide the NOC with altered condition that car can be re-registered but SBI hypothecation to continue.
With the NOC, I approached an RTO agency (Did not have enough time to run around at RTO to get it done myself) Sai Motor Driving in Kothrud, to get the NOC from RTO. Paid then Rs 1500 along with copies of road tax paid, insurance, PUC, an id proof and the original RC smart card. Exactly one week later they called up and asked me to collect the NOC.
With NOC from Pune RTO I have landed in Hyderabad, will be bringing over the car this weekend.
Now it will be easier to get it registered here (Hopefully).

In addition, after getting the NOC, I hired the same Agency (Sai Motor Driving) for LTT tax refund from Pune RTO. Have paid Rs 3000 for this to them. They said that you should not wait till you get your car re-registered in Hyderabad as that might take a few months (To get the new RC in Hyd) and by then your NOC issued by Pune RTO will expire which makes the refund process much more complicated.
As per the process suggested by them, they have now applied for refund. I am supposed to send them the tax paid receipt from Hyd in next couple of weeks and then I will get a refund in 1.5-2 months (while my car's re-registration is already in progress in Hyd). This means I can get the refund from Pune RTO as soon as I pay the LTT in any other RTO. Given the professional treatment and smooth work done by them till now I am really hopeful that I will get some refund. Keeping my fingers crossed till then.

[saleem_k]

I'm in a tricky situation and would like to know from the well-informed people in the forum. I'm currently relocating from a BS III city to Hyderabad which is a BS IV city. My car is also BSIII compliant not BSIV. So can I transfer my vehicle to Hyd or will it be a problem doing it as I heard Hyderabad won't register a BSIII vehicle? Please confirm if anyone has any idea.

Thanks.

[zombiedriver]

I'm considering buying a new car in TN getting a temporary registration there and then permanently registering it in Bangalore. After going through the entire thread all i was able to figure out was I would have to pay something called an Entry Tax which i understand might be a considerable sum because the car i'm considering is the Skoda Octavia. The reason for buying it out of state is very simple, I get to bypass the whole waiting period and get my hands on the car quicker.

Can anyone tell me what the exact procedure is and what are the costs involved. Because if the cost of doing it is very high ( read Rs.50,000 or more ) then it obviously negates the whole jumping in front of the line.

[i10]

Originally Posted by zombiedriver

The reason for buying it out of state is very simple, I get to bypass the whole waiting period and get my hands on the car quicker.

I believe some dealers to allow you to register the car at a different location (state). Considering you are buying an Octavia, did you try asking the Skoda dealer you are buying from if they could help you with those formalities?

[zombiedriver]

I'm only considering it. Don't want to jump the gun and use up my pull without having all facts in hand in this case the exact procedure and costs involved

[PetrolRider]

Hi Bangalore BHPians,

Please suggest a reliable agent to do following task for my 3 year old micra.
1. Change of address
2. Remove Hypothecation
3. Get a NOC
4. Apply for refund

I am in advance stage of negotiating a new Job in Pune and if finalizes I may have to move my base with little possible time to do these task by myself.

I assume all the above task can take more than a month. I have a old rented house address in my RC card and I think I may need to change the address to get the hypothecation removed RC from RTO. Can I do it without changing address?

Can I expect a agent to complete these task in a month or so? How much do I expect to pay them for these works?

I assume I can simply pay a road tax in Pune and drive, but down the line will face issue while disposing off.

[//M]

Hi everyone,

I have a two-wheeler which is Jharkhand registered. I got it down to Pune in September 2014 as I work here. I have got the NOC from Jharkhand RTO as I thought I will pay the taxes in MH and get it registered here.

However, I might move out of Pune this summers due to a transfer. Now I have two options:

1. Either register my bike in Pune, pay all the taxes and sell it.
2. Take it back to Jharkhand without paying anything here.

Option 1 is an expensive option.

I am more keen for the Option 2. However, I have some doubts. If I take back my bike to Jharkhand, what happens to the NOC that I have already taken?

Can the NOC be cancelled in Jharkhand RTO now? What should be the procedure for this?

Also, do I need to take anything in writing from Pune RTO as well? I have not paid single penny in Pune RTO since I was having the NOC till now.

Please suggest. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Arunabh

[Ajitsingh208]

Originally Posted by //M

Hi everyone,

I have a two-wheeler which is Jharkhand registered. I got it down to Pune in September 2014 as I work here. I have got the NOC from Jharkhand RTO as I thought I will pay the taxes in MH and get it registered here.

However, I might move out of Pune this summers due to a transfer. Now I have two options:

1. Either register my bike in Pune, pay all the taxes and sell it.
2. Take it back to Jharkhand without paying anything here.

Option 1 is an expensive option.

I am more keen for the Option 2. However, I have some doubts. If I take back my bike to Jharkhand, what happens to the NOC that I have already taken?

Can the NOC be cancelled in Jharkhand RTO now? What should be the procedure for this?

Also, do I need to take anything in writing from Pune RTO as well? I have not paid single penny in Pune RTO since I was having the NOC till now.

Please suggest. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Arunabh

Well the transfer process takes 2 months at least once you submit the NOC.
If you take it back, then just submit an application for cancellation of NOC. That can be easily done with the help of an agent. Nothing required from Pune RTO.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by //M

I have a two-wheeler which is Jharkhand registered. I got it down to Pune in September 2014 as I work here. I have got the NOC from Jharkhand RTO as I thought I will pay the taxes in MH and get it registered here.

However, I might move out of Pune this summers due to a transfer. Now I have two options:

1. Either register my bike in Pune, pay all the taxes and sell it.
2. Take it back to Jharkhand without paying anything here.

Option 1 is an expensive option.
I am more keen for the Option 2. However, I have some doubts. If I take back my bike to Jharkhand, what happens to the NOC that I have already taken?
Can the NOC be cancelled in Jharkhand RTO now? What should be the procedure for this?

Also, do I need to take anything in writing from Pune RTO as well? I have not paid single penny in Pune RTO since I was having the NOC till now.

Dear Arunabh,

Dealing these days with RTO myself and I can tell you that if obtaining NOC is a difficult task, then cancellation of NOC can be even herculean. What you should have ideally chosen to do is to pay road tax in Pune for an year which would not have required NOC or a new registration.

Cancellation of NOC would call for the following process:

1. Surrender the original copy of NOC obtained earlier to the original registering authority (RTO).

2. Certificate of the registering authority on whom the NOC was earlier issued stating that the said vehicle has not been registered at that office.

3. An affidavit from the owner of the vehicle stating that he has not mis-used the vehicle and the NOC from the period of obtaining the NOC.

4. Fee Rs. 100/ or whatever applicable from time to time and RTO to RTO

5. All valid documents - RC, Insurance, PUC, etc.

In this process, point 2 is difficult to comply with. May be a good agent can help. Do update us with whatever option you opt for.

Regards.

[//M]

Originally Posted by saket77

Dear Arunabh,

Dealing these days with RTO myself and I can tell you that if obtaining NOC is a difficult task, then cancellation of NOC can be even herculean. What you should have ideally chosen to do is to pay road tax in Pune for an year which would not have required NOC or a new registration.

Cancellation of NOC would call for the following process:

1. Surrender the original copy of NOC obtained earlier to the original registering authority (RTO).

2. Certificate of the registering authority on whom the NOC was earlier issued stating that the said vehicle has not been registered at that office.

3. An affidavit from the owner of the vehicle stating that he has not mis-used the vehicle and the NOC from the period of obtaining the NOC.

4. Fee Rs. 100/ or whatever applicable from time to time and RTO to RTO

5. All valid documents - RC, Insurance, PUC, etc.

In this process, point 2 is difficult to comply with. May be a good agent can help. Do update us with whatever option you opt for.

Regards.

Thank You Saket Sir.

I spoke to one agent who told me that I need not do anything at the Pune RTO. The only thing that needs to be done is to submit an affidavit in the Ranchi RTO and request cancellation of the NOC.

I am yet to buy this agent's opinion. I have asked my folks at home to verify this at the Ranchi RTO.

If it doesn't works that way, I will get in touch with a local agent here in Pune and see what can be done regarding the Point #2 you have mentioned.

[Automaton]

Originally Posted by //M

Thank You Saket Sir.

I spoke to one agent who told me that I need not do anything at the Pune RTO. The only thing that needs to be done is to submit an affidavit in the Ranchi RTO and request cancellation of the NOC.

I am yet to buy this agent's opinion. I have asked my folks at home to verify this at the Ranchi RTO.

If it doesn't works that way, I will get in touch with a local agent here in Pune and see what can be done regarding the Point #2 you have mentioned.

Any progress on this?

[//M]

Originally Posted by Automaton

Any progress on this?

Yes sir. Instead of getting the NOC cancelled, I paid the road tax applicable.

Now the summary is I have permanent registration done in Jharkhand. I got NOC from the RTO and paid tax in Maharashtra. The query is can I use my vehicle back in Jharkhand after taking a NOC from Maharashtra later? Or do I need to change my registration plates to MH plates for that?

Any inputs would be really helpful !!

[SilverSurfer]

Hi Everyone,

Need some advice on the following:

- I transferred my car from west bengal to hyderabad
- Currently tax has expired in WB, tax paid till 2023 in TS
- Waiting for new RC from RTO Hyd

Can i now transfer my car to some other state before i receive the new RC from Hyd RTO ?