2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas

PAVAN KADAM · 18th November 2012, 22:48

Ferrari have become so desperate to move Alonso up, such a dirty game played by making Massa the Bali Ka Bakra.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104361

deetjohn · 18th November 2012, 22:54

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/11/1...arbox-penalty/

This is a brilliant tactical move. Let's how far it helps the lead Ferrari.

Now, if Webber takes a gearbox change, Ferrari (both) will go back to the dirty side.

arun_josie · 18th November 2012, 22:57

Its confirmed now. Massa gets a grid penalty which moves Alonso to P7 and starts from clean side of the grid.

http://www.pitpass.com/47951-Massa-gets-a-grid-penalty

The above link also points that Webber might go for gearbox change. Which might again move Alonso to the dirty side of the grid.

Harshal.Bhosale · 18th November 2012, 22:58

That's one of the most desperate tactics I've seen in recent times. Can't expect this from anyone other than Ferrari.

Alonso on the cleaner side, granted. But that still wont shake Grosjean and Maldonado off his back. Double dhamaka waiting to happen.

Edit: Haha! Lol! If Red Bull change Webers gearbox then Ferrari's plan goes kaput! This is getting into murky waters indeed!

aditya116 · 18th November 2012, 23:09

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Originally Posted by Harshal.Bhosale

That's one of the most desperate tactics I've seen in recent times. Can't expect this from anyone other than Ferrari.

Alonso on the cleaner side, granted. But that still wont shake Grosjean and Maldonado off his back. Double dhamaka waiting to happen.

Holly molly! thats a little hard to digest, no wonder massa was resigned for 2013! Team orders are one thing but this! next would be asking massa to punt out vettel when he gets lapped?? If webber does go for a box change, i think it would be a good payback. Alonso is a good driver but if he was having 100% integrity he would not have agreed to this. Somehow i always felt the piquet crash in singapore wouldnt have been done without alonsos knowledge eventhough he claims the contrary.
Anyway I think we are in for a midfield first corner mayhem.

deetjohn · 18th November 2012, 23:40

Christian Horner confirmed RBR won't be moving Webber back to put the Ferrari back on the dirty side.

ashwin.terminat · 19th November 2012, 00:27

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The Italian team openly admitted that it was a tactical decision taken in order to promote Massa’s team mate and title contender, Fernando Alonso, from P8 to P7 on the grid, a slot which is critically on the right where grip is expected to be far superior as the cars leave the line.

Very sad tactics in my opinion. Poor Massa has always borne the brunt of team orders. Alonso should never have agreed to this. RBR are playing fair. Kudos to them. I'm a Ferrari fanboy, but now, Ferrari are just showing complete lack of sportsmanship!

Manoj2268 · 19th November 2012, 01:07

Webber out! ALO in 3rd and RAI 4th

sameerg001 · 19th November 2012, 01:08

I still don't get why webber left the race

, Can anyone here, please help me out on this ?

manson · 19th November 2012, 01:21

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Originally Posted by sameerg001

I still don't get why webber left the race

, Can anyone here, please help me out on this ?

That is because his car suffered from a terminal failure, something to do with the DRS.

Harshal.Bhosale · 19th November 2012, 01:24

This is turning out to be one helluva race!!!
Hammy, Vettel, Alonso for podium..in that order!

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Originally Posted by sameerg001

I still don't get why webber left the race

, Can anyone here, please help me out on this ?

Mechanical prob. First kers failed, then something else must've gone wrong.

Edit: Just in. Alternator problem on weber's car.

punto_ · 19th November 2012, 02:06

Well, I love to see Alonso win, but this was too desperate. Anyway, brilliant race for Hamilton. Unless Sebastian makes a mistake, I don't see Alonso winning this year.

sameerg001 · 19th November 2012, 02:09

I am disappointed to say the least with vettel's performance today, He was just too slow on the straights today. I will say, he gave the lead himself to the hamilton

@mayankk- I can see smile on your face.

Anyways, Vettel is still on the lead, Hope to see him in 1st postion, in next grand prix.

Cheers,
Sameer

Harshal.Bhosale · 19th November 2012, 02:11

@mayankk
Hammy!!

Exactly my podium! Brilliant race!!!

speedmiester · 19th November 2012, 02:14

America has done it again and in style!!!!!

What a brilliant race. Brought out the best of all the drivers with a lot of side by side driving.

Hamilton at his true best. A great drive by him.
Great result by all the top contenders.
Alonso still in the hunt for the WDC. The decision to change gearbox on Massa did pay off for Ferrari with a podium to Alonso and a great drive from 11th to 4th for Massa.

Atleast Redbull clinched the construction championship after a bitter disappointment for Webber.

With Rain forecasted for the Brazilian GP, it's gonna be a real nail biter and a very restless 7 days for the F1 Community.

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PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas Ferrari have become so desperate to move Alonso up, such a dirty game played by making Massa the Bali Ka Bakra. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104361
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deetjohn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kochi Posts: 4,530 Thanked: 10,583 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/11/1...arbox-penalty/ This is a brilliant tactical move. Let's how far it helps the lead Ferrari. Now, if Webber takes a gearbox change, Ferrari (both) will go back to the dirty side.
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18th November 2012, 22:57	#63
arun_josie Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,737 Thanked: 13,537 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas Its confirmed now. Massa gets a grid penalty which moves Alonso to P7 and starts from clean side of the grid. http://www.pitpass.com/47951-Massa-gets-a-grid-penalty The above link also points that Webber might go for gearbox change. Which might again move Alonso to the dirty side of the grid. Last edited by arun_josie : 18th November 2012 at 22:59.
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Harshal.Bhosale BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 200 Thanked: 801 Times	That's one of the most desperate tactics I've seen in recent times. Can't expect this from anyone other than Ferrari. Alonso on the cleaner side, granted. But that still wont shake Grosjean and Maldonado off his back. Double dhamaka waiting to happen. Edit: Haha! Lol! If Red Bull change Webers gearbox then Ferrari's plan goes kaput! This is getting into murky waters indeed! Last edited by Harshal.Bhosale : 18th November 2012 at 23:10.
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deetjohn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kochi Posts: 4,530 Thanked: 10,583 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas Christian Horner confirmed RBR won't be moving Webber back to put the Ferrari back on the dirty side.
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Manoj2268 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 302 Thanked: 436 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas Webber out! ALO in 3rd and RAI 4th
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sameerg001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dwarka, Delhi Posts: 1,500 Thanked: 434 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas I still don't get why webber left the race , Can anyone here, please help me out on this ? Last edited by sameerg001 : 19th November 2012 at 01:10.
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19th November 2012, 02:06	#72
punto_ BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 314 Thanked: 321 Times	Well, I love to see Alonso win, but this was too desperate. Anyway, brilliant race for Hamilton. Unless Sebastian makes a mistake, I don't see Alonso winning this year.
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19th November 2012, 02:09	#73
sameerg001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dwarka, Delhi Posts: 1,500 Thanked: 434 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas I am disappointed to say the least with vettel's performance today, He was just too slow on the straights today. I will say, he gave the lead himself to the hamilton @mayankk- I can see smile on your face. Anyways, Vettel is still on the lead, Hope to see him in 1st postion, in next grand prix. Cheers, Sameer Last edited by sameerg001 : 19th November 2012 at 02:13.
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19th November 2012, 02:11	#74
Harshal.Bhosale BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 200 Thanked: 801 Times	@mayankk Hammy!! Exactly my podium! Brilliant race!!!
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19th November 2012, 02:14	#75
speedmiester Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 2,387 Thanked: 6,631 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Circuit of the Americas America has done it again and in style!!!!! What a brilliant race. Brought out the best of all the drivers with a lot of side by side driving. Hamilton at his true best. A great drive by him. Great result by all the top contenders. Alonso still in the hunt for the WDC. The decision to change gearbox on Massa did pay off for Ferrari with a podium to Alonso and a great drive from 11th to 4th for Massa. Atleast Redbull clinched the construction championship after a bitter disappointment for Webber. With Rain forecasted for the Brazilian GP, it's gonna be a real nail biter and a very restless 7 days for the F1 Community. Last edited by speedmiester : 19th November 2012 at 02:15.
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