[nirmaljusdoit]

Originally Posted by dotcombubbled

Hello AJ56

Got my new, 2 weeks old car’s rear bumper scratched by a biker

Being my first ever car and getting a scratch like this with totally no mistake of mine hurts a lot :(

1. What should I be vary of — better to do at a detailing shop?
I’m anyway going for a ceramic and PPF on both bumpers. (Either at Feynlab or Ultimate Detailerz)

- You could go with a detailer who has also has a. Body shop facility , you would need to wait for atleast a week post painting to apply PPF

2. Would a respray on such small area is not recommended? And given there will be a PPF over oh later, what kind of correction technique I should follow for this kind of a scratch?

For this kind of damage you could only paint half the bumper, correction wont be possible as paint itself is removed due to the deep scratches

3. Don’t know the exact process service Center will follow, but do they sand off a big patch and then spray over it?

They will sand off that portion, apply a bit of body filler, smoothen it down, paint that area with primer, base and clear coat.

[dotcombubbled]

Originally Posted by amitnair

I am planning to get the Ceramic/PPF combo done. Could you recommend good detailing centres in Bangalore

Getting a similar thing done for my Venue NLine.

Full Ceramic except for PPF on bumpers

Based on my research, have shortlisted 2 vendors:

1. Feynlab - central BLR (museum road)
– Total 48K (28K ceramic +18K PPF)
– Ceramic using Ceramic Lite product (lowest in ranks)
– PPF using some imported/unbranded material which costs 88k for full car (not sure if it's TPU or not)

2. Ultimate Detailerz - Kaggadasapura
– Total 46K (26K for Premium package for ceramic + 16k for PPF)
– Ceramic Using CarPro C.Quartz professional (middle in ranks)
– PPF using some imported/unbranded TPU material which costs 99k for full car


@mods/experts in Bangalore -
1. Which is the better product - Feynlab/C.Quartz
2. Which vendor is more trustworthy? Feynlab fella seemed very pushy - kept pushing me for PPF

[AJ56]

Originally Posted by dotcombubbled

Hello AJ56

What should I do for this small a scratch.
There’s a parking light broken also, and service Center fellow said they’ll do a touch up after installing new light

1. What should I be vary of — better to do at a detailing shop?
I’m anyway going for a ceramic and PPF on both bumpers. (Either at Feynlab or Ultimate Detailerz)

2. Would a respray on such small area is not recommended? And given there will be a PPF over oh later, what kind of correction technique I should follow for this kind of a scratch?

3. Don’t know the exact process service Center will follow, but do they sand off a big patch and then spray over it?

Don’t let the dealer apply any touch up paint, it’s never done properly in my experience. They don’t even wipe down with IPA to say the least.

1) Detailer cannot help here as the paint has come off completely and the plastic is visible. If you want a 100% correction you’ll need a good body shop with a paint booth. They will spot paint the area after filling in the scratch with body filler.

The other option is to get some matching paint from the dealer and have your detailer apply it with a fine tip brush, this is the easier option but won’t be perfect as you’ll still see the area you’ve retouched. You can find the sticker for the exact paint code under the bonnet or in the door jambs on most cars.

2) There is no minimum area required for a respray, all comes down to the skill of the painter. Fresh paint vents for at least 3-4 weeks after application so do not apply any PPF/ceramic/paint sealant over that area.

3) Don’t let the dealer touch it, their body work is subpar and you’ll get the car back with a lot of imperfections in the area they’ve repainted. Find a good shop with a paint booth and reputed painters. Will be more expensive than the dealer but well worth it.

Process: sanding around the scratch - body filler - sand - body shop solvent/degreaser - primer - bake - sand - base coat - bake - sand - clear coat - bake - sand - compound - polish. I’ve given a basic outline, there are other smaller steps I’ve not mentioned.

[dotcombubbled]

First of all, can’t thank you enough for answering my questions. Having folks like you is a bliss.

Originally Posted by AJ56

The other option is to get some matching paint from the dealer and have your detailer apply it with a fine tip brush, this is the easier option but won’t be perfect as you’ll still see the area you’ve retouched. You can find the sticker for the exact paint code under the bonnet or in the door jambs on most cars.

Oh god nooo! You confirmed my worst fears.

But,
I think I’m most inclined to go with this above option first and if it’s still big of an eye sore, maybe I’ll go for option 1 with the outlined process you mentioned.

Q1) Also, would this be the car paint code highlighted in image?

Q2) Should I ask Auth Service Center or Dealer for the paint? Do they give the paint easily?

It’s Hyundai’s newest color (Shadow Grey) and mine is actually first car in india with this color, so would definitely need a factory produced color which a detailer can’t match.

Originally Posted by AJ56

2) There is no minimum area required for a respray, all comes down to the skill of the painter. Fresh paint vents for at least 3-4 weeks after application so do not apply any PPF/ceramic/paint sealant over that area.

Q3) If I go for option 2, which spot scratch painting with fine brush via some detailer, how long should I wait for PPF?

Originally Posted by AJ56

3) Don’t let the dealer touch it, their body work is subpar and you’ll get the car back with a lot of imperfections in the area they’ve repainted. Find a good shop with a paint booth and reputed painters. Will be more expensive than the dealer but well worth it.

I can also consider full bumper replacement via insurance — but I think they’ll call for a black bumper and then repaint it at service Center

Q4. You wouldn’t recommend this process? Or would you. (Okay with no claim insurance loss thing)
- IF No, Paint’s long term quality and paint match wont be as perfect? (Car is just 2 weeks old)

Q5. Is there any way at higher cost possible to call for a factory painted bumper?

[RRM]

I had a good experience with ceramic coating on my 2012 Innova. I was saved on spending a repainting scenario.

Once while coming from office at around 11 pm, after coming down from the flyover I was taking left to enter service road when out of the blue, a red i10 whizzed past from left side, on to the main road from where I was exiting towards service road.

I realised it had scratched on the left side of the bumper but as it was too late in the night I didn’t get down to check. Next day morning I saw a red paint with hard scratches on the left side of bumper. I called the ceramic guy and he saw the photos and asked to visit him and in one hour it was restored how it was before.

So as far as I have seen it works. I recently did a recoat/polished after 5 yrs of initial coat done and spent 2.5k.

Other advantages I experienced -
-Bird waste falling on the car, clean easily
-Bike moron friends squeezing in-between and scratching bumper or bike handle scratching the door, wipe it and it goes away
- No swirl marks post application till date
- during rainy season or washing, the water retains minimal and hence easy to wipe
- in case of dust, just wipe with duster

Precautions
- after application I was told not to wash at automatic car wash and hence I have stopped it
- once a year do a re-coat to maintain the shine

Disadvantages -
- Didn’t see the windshield repelling water as expected as it was claimed
- Needs maintenance once a year otherwise lose the shine
- In case of accident/repainting, the coat has to be redone

In general I am happy with ceramic coating experience but cannot comment on the fire testing done as every company claims their product as fire resistant

[AJ56]

Originally Posted by dotcombubbled

First of all, can’t thank you enough for answering my questions. Having folks like you is a bliss.

Q1) Also, would this be the car paint code highlighted in image?

Q2) Should I ask Auth Service Center or Dealer for the paint? Do they give the paint easily?

It’s Hyundai’s newest color (Shadow Grey) and mine is actually first car in india with this color, so would definitely need a factory produced color which a detailer can’t match.

Q3) If I go for option 2, which spot scratch painting with fine brush via some detailer, how long should I wait for PPF?

I can also consider full bumper replacement via insurance — but I think they’ll call for a black bumper and then repaint it at service Center

Q4. You wouldn’t recommend this process? Or would you. (Okay with no claim insurance loss thing)
- IF No, Paint’s long term quality and paint match wont be as perfect? (Car is just 2 weeks old)

Q5. Is there any way at higher cost possible to call for a factory painted bumper?

Thank you for the kind words, happy to help.

1) Yes

2) Just for clarity, dealer/authorised service centre is referring to the same entity, used interchangeably. Yes they generally give it, they might try to push the entire bumper repaint on you but insist on a small amount of paint (under 50ml will be enough). Assuming the dealer has an in house bodyshop, it's generally not an issue.

Detailers aren't in the paint matching business to begin with, all they can do is help with touch up with a fine tip brush if you bring them the paint. I think you mean aftermarket body shops, they will put the Hyundai paint code in their system to create the paint shade perfectly, assuming they have the mixing equipment, it’ll match 100%. If it’s mixed visually it most likely won’t match perfectly.

3) At least 3 weeks for it to fully cure. Yes the factory only ships unpainted panels which the dealer paints in house to your cars colour. Do not go for this as you’ll get a terrible finish with the same quality as a repaint done by the dealer.

Would not recommend at all, makes no sense losing factory finish on the entire bumper just for 2 small scratches.

Regarding long term paint integrity, on the contrary the subpar finish achieved by locally painting at the dealer will definitely run into issues long term, things like clearcoat peeling after a few months due to improper prep, etc. (applies to all brands not just Hyundai). In case the dealer agrees to spot paint (unlikely) and you’re happy with their finish (check other cars painted near you) you can have it done by them.

First try with some paint, have a detailer touch it up. If still unhappy then find a good quality body shop and tell them to spot paint the area, a few inches on either side of the scratch. Take it back to the detailer to remove body shop haze and sanding scratches and after a few weeks, apply your preferred paint protection.

5) Unless you know someone personally in a position of authority in production, it’s not possible. Still no harm in asking the dealer. Otherwise this is the ideal option.

Originally Posted by RRM

Precautions
- after application I was told not to wash at automatic car wash and hence I have stopped it
- once a year do a re-coat to maintain the shine

Disadvantages -
- Didn’t see the windshield repelling water as expected as it was claimed
- Needs maintenance once a year otherwise lose the shine

In general I am happy with ceramic coating experience but cannot comment on the fire testing done as every company claims their product as fire resistant

It’s borderline comical how far some ceramic coating mfg’s have gone with the marketing, yes the coating itself is fireproof as silicone is inert chemically but the car paint isn’t, if your car is on fire the paint will be the last of your worries and 2-3 microns won’t stop a fire or heat from damaging it.

Good to hear you’re happy with it, few points-

1) Windshield should be as hydrophobic as the paint is, if it’s not take it back to the shop if still under warranty and have it reapplied.

2) High quality pro level coatings are largely maintenance free and definitely don’t need reapplication every year or even two years. The shine/gloss is a function of not having swirled and scratched paint, if the paint is washed safely there is no need for yearly reapplication/machine polishing.

[AJ56]

For reference, this is what a healthy coating looks like after 2+ years of daily driving and no top ups or maintenance, just a foam wash every few days (only the left side is coated as I was doing some testing back then)-

https://youtu.be/_xZuidkSVfA

Note to mods: if this can be merged with the post above please as my time for editing expired.

[AravBS]

Friends, I am in the market for getting my new car ceramic coated. My Car, Kanakapura road coated 30k for the sedan and they use Gtechniq . Any reviews for this brand ? Also should i get windshield and underbody coated ?

Thanks in advance.

[kumar25rs]

Originally Posted by AravBS

Friends, I am in the market for getting my new car ceramic coated. My Car, Kanakapura road coated 30k for the sedan and they use Gtechniq . Any reviews for this brand ?

Here in the UK, it is a pretty common brand. I did this last week, the detailing specialist used Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light for my 2021 registered car. I was very satisfied with the outcome:

[anilntny]

Ceramic or graphene? Which one to opt for my new car?

[sumeethaldankar]

One of my local detailers is saying he will do a ceramic job for my Swift in 3.5k. I am reading prices here and ceramic coating seems expensive. I am trying to umderstand how can it be so cheap?

Not sure whether he guy will just wax and call it ceramic coating or what. I am just interested in removing paint transfer stains from my car which happened due to a wet car cover.

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar

One of my local detailers is saying he will do a ceramic job for my Swift in 3.5k. I am reading prices here and ceramic coating seems expensive. I am trying to umderstand how can it be so cheap?

Not sure whether he guy will just wax and call it ceramic coating or what. I am just interested in removing paint transfer stains from my car which happened due to a wet car cover.

3.5k for a ceramic coating on a Swift is impossible Sumeet. He is definitely trying to pull a fast one.

For your purpose just do a normal polish which should take care of the stains on your car.

Cheers

[sudhirjaipur]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

3.5k for a ceramic coating on a Swift is impossible Sumeet. He is definitely trying to pull a fast one.

For your purpose just do a normal polish which should take care of the stains on your car.

Cheers

Some DIY Ceramic Coatings can be done within this amount.

[saurabhrai]

I will be taking delivery of my XUV next week in Lucknow. I have been wondering whether to go for ceramic coating or not.

On my previous cars, white Creta and City, I haven't even opted for teflon coating, but this time the colour is midnight blue hence the dilemma.

I got a quote from Carzspa for 30K (ceramic) and 50K (graphene) with 5 yr warranty. They said I will have to visit them every 6 months for "boosting".

From Ceramic Pro I got 65k (ceramic) with 5 yr warranty. They said no boosting is required whatsoever.

Prices are further negotiable of course. But my question is is it worth this kind of money and which option makes more sense?

[Cyborg]

Originally Posted by saurabhrai

I got a quote from Carzspa for 30K (ceramic) and 50K (graphene) with 5 yr warranty. They said I will have to visit them every 6 months for "boosting".

From Ceramic Pro I got 65k (ceramic) with 5 yr warranty. They said no boosting is required whatsoever.

I did my bike recently with a graphene coat and find it really very good, the shine and hydrophobic properties do really stand out. The original paint is protected under these layers which keep the vehicle looking fresh and I don’t really find a downside to it. I feel the amount we are paying isn’t comparable to the cost of the vehicle and find doing it is better than not doing it. Plus the 6 months boosting or refresh is also a good thing because your vehicle will get pampered more and every 6 months will look like it’s got life injected into the paint.

In your place I would go for the 50k graphene coating. Since I knew I would complete my running in of 1000 kilometres soon, I went for it after my first service was completed.

Cheers