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Originally Posted by Cooltronics Can any one shed some light on using this coating on vintage, classic or old cars ( 30 years + older) ?
Would it be technically wise to do such detailing on original paint which has faced natures forces for so many years ? |
Older paints are all single stage. The composition of the paint will also differ but the paint thickness used to be a lot more in the early days than now, technically you should have a lot of paint to polish. Old paints would have dried up so they will need specialist attention, including "moisturizing" the paint to properly restore it.
Most coatings are formulated to work on clear coats, however classic cars deserve a really good prep and polish, then a couple of layers of very good carnauba wax IMHO than a coating to make them look the best.
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Originally Posted by BB311 Coming to the financial aspect of this, from the POV of a normal car buyer, who would most probably sell his/her car after 8 years, what value will this 20-40k spending add to the resale price ? If I am not wrong, 70-80% of shine can retained even after 8 years with regular waxing and not giving your car to the society cleaner. |
I had a friend with a santro that wasn't used for 2 years. It was parked under a tree, covered with a ton of bird poop, paint and headlights totally faded. I spent a day cleaning and a light polish on the car. He listed the car for sale in the evening, in one hour it was sold for the price that my friend wanted, that too the buyer paid full cash! during demonetization days!
The point I'm trying to make is that cars that look clean have a perception that they were properly cared for. To answer your question My friend got a lot more money than what he expected, so I can safely say resale value had increased
I will give you an example on coatings are beneficial. My Cedia has single stage paint, yes there is NO clear coat on any panel on my car plus the paint is super soft. The car was brutually polished couple of times, there is absolutely no paint left on the original panels.
Any detailer worth his salt wouldn't touch a car like mine, it is very very easy to burn through the paint and expose the primer.
Notice the dark primer showing up in these pictures.
Center line on the bonnet
side ridges on the bonnet
Underneath door handles
These are only a few examples. The whole car has such ugly abuse marks.
So ow does one effectively protect such paint? The only logical answer is something that lasts long, does not need polishing often and adds some sort of scratch resistance. It took me 6 months of experimenting but found a coating that suited my requirements to the T. So I detailed the car in June. This is how the car looked ~2 months post detailing :
I should also add that I had an unfortunate accident at high speeds and the only damage on the paint was smudges, you can see them on the passenger side front fender and passenger doors. The paint was surprisingly not damaged much, I want to say the coating helped in limiting the damage but I cannot say for sure.
After june, nothing was done to the car except regular washing. I couldn't be bothered to fix the scratches and dings I've collected since then, probably will do that in the next session. This video was taken in the first weekof April, 9+ months after protection :
So the beading has weakened a bit but the protection is still there. I can always top up the car with a good quick detailer or wax if I ever want the car to look like it did on day one.
Summary is coatings work, although it is better to do your research and find out which works for you the best. Price is highly subjective, I did all the work on my own and cost me 1/10th of the cheapest ceramic pro package mentioned here, although the price of compounds,polishes, machines, pads etc needed to attain this finish will cost a couple of lakhs. If you're serious about getting excellent results, you have to spend couple of lakhs on products, machines etc, do a LOT of practice, end up burning few paint panels, repaint them and start over, or pay a professional to give you a shiny gleaming car for 1/10th this cost. I have had a few friends who bought rotary polishers, pads , compounds and a lot of microfiber towels thinking yes shining a car is easy and have given up after doing a couple of panels. Polishing is a very touchy feely subject and one cannot learn anything by observing others or watching youtube videos. The paint on different panels even on a single car reacts differently, a good detailer must adjust his technique constantly to get consistent results. I hope I explained the cost factor when it comes to detailing.
There are few experts here who can give a much detailed explanation but unfortunately they've been specifically told not to do so. In the end, the community loses with a lot of misinformation thrown around by armchair experts. Unfortunately there is too much unnecessary fear mongering going on, it seems a couple of members here have had bad experiences with products or detailers and they are painting the whole detailing community with the same brush.