best tuner for turbo charging???

DocG · 18th December 2007, 17:51

well if ur spending so much money getting the turbo done, then why keep stock internals? change them to forged, and well keep the boost high, and milk all the power out of it...that's what i'm planning

50% boost in power is too less for the amount of money i'm blowing

v1p3r · 18th December 2007, 19:52

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Originally Posted by binz

Oh c'mon How long would stock internals hold up 1bar ?! How would this kind of setup ever be reliable?
Not sure about tuning.

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Originally Posted by iceman91

agree with Binz stock internals wont "last long" at 1 bar..7-8 psi yes but more no way will it last

Don't wish to argue this. Amit, I'm sure you will be meeting him on Saturday, ask him yourself.

pawan · 18th December 2007, 20:15

from what i have read/heard baleno internals can take a lot more except the rods.the pistons and cranks can handle a lot more.they have to be shot peened.

also a bit ot: the worlds fastest swift g13b twin cam is running on stock internals.some 9.91 1/4 mile.

neo_trace · 18th December 2007, 21:09

i m driving TURBO CHARGED baleno sinc 2 yrs... viper performance tunned to 6psi with Lpg direct injection programeble ecm (tunned by Lovato italy)and car made successfully 45000kms

got my clutch replaced ..turbo eat that

iraghava · 18th December 2007, 21:19

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Originally Posted by neo_trace

got my clutch replaced ..turbo eat that

Wow.....turbo hungry!!

gemballa · 18th December 2007, 21:21

just turboing by 1.3 petrol swift running 8psi. piper cams uprated clutch, internals, 2pot brake upgrade and lots lots more

dragger · 18th December 2007, 23:48

thanks for finally speaking in this topic jitu,always learn something new from your posts,besides that fahad sheikh of team fs is running a 1.3l sohc head from a g13b and the bottom half from the g15b,he was running a na setup earlier,currently he's working on lowering the compression and going the turbo route,a little off topic but i wanted to understand this from you jitu practically a g13b head with g15b bottom itself would be a high compression setup correct,im saying in stock form..?

ananthkamath · 19th December 2007, 01:47

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Originally Posted by Ford Rocam

There will be a huge difference between a T25 & GT30 Turbo running at 8psi & 15psi respectively. So according to me "PSi" is irrelevant term.

Can you please explain why that is so?

cyneverdie · 19th December 2007, 06:31

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Originally Posted by DocG

Loves to make cars fly huh...guess he and I will get along just fine...
And thanks for the info guys...sounds like he's a good guy to talk to about my project...

buddy if i were you i would speak to 3 people

viper
fahad
&
KS too

KS has a dyno

therefor you can test his claims for yourself , i presume.
he definately sounds tight
KS Motorsport...>>>

DocG · 19th December 2007, 08:36

well even though KS has a dyno...he's best at tuning Hondas, Lancers n Esteems...most experience with those sort of cars...One has to find the tuner who knows their car inside out, or if not that, then one who has worked on similar cars..no doubt all of them are capable
Besides a dyno run is what 3000 rupees, that's not much when u wanna TC n mod ur ride in the engine department...
Just my 2 paise

iceman91 · 19th December 2007, 08:53

v1p3r: looking forward to it

Ford Rocam:
cfm vs. psi. a larger turbo can flow more air. but at 4psi there probably isnt much in the way of power differences.

cfm is actual flow, or amount of air coming out of the turbo

boost is a specific amount of measurement of compression that is occouring inside the piping/engine

crazydiablo · 19th December 2007, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Ford Rocam

It largely depends on what size turbo you using on the setup & the size of compressor & turbine housing,exhaust turbo manifold,downpipe. There will be a huge difference between a T25 & GT30 Turbo running at 8psi & 15psi respectively. So according to me "PSi" is irrelevant term.
As a rule of thumb stock engines (depending upon C.R) can withstand 50% power increase on stock internals if Tuning is precise & detonation is avoided.

Correct me if I am wroing. Irrespective of turbo Boost pressure is boost pressure. The way these two turbos generate 8 psi or 15 psi will be different. But if stock can hold only Xpsi it will hold only Xpsi irrespecitive of turbo.

50% power increase approximately equates to 7psi boost (assuming all other factor to be stock).

redeye · 19th December 2007, 22:54

guys just curious how much would a turbo setup cost for a lancer???

binz · 19th December 2007, 23:02

What kind of output would you be looking at?

v1p3r · 19th December 2007, 23:08

Depends on power levels, I should think.

18th December 2007, 17:51	#31
DocG BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mumbai - Singapore - Cali - Sydney - S.Korea Posts: 870 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	well if ur spending so much money getting the turbo done, then why keep stock internals? change them to forged, and well keep the boost high, and milk all the power out of it...that's what i'm planning 50% boost in power is too less for the amount of money i'm blowing
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18th December 2007, 20:15	#33
pawan BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: auckland, new zealand Posts: 868 Thanked: 4 Times	from what i have read/heard baleno internals can take a lot more except the rods.the pistons and cranks can handle a lot more.they have to be shot peened. also a bit ot: the worlds fastest swift g13b twin cam is running on stock internals.some 9.91 1/4 mile. Last edited by pawan : 18th December 2007 at 20:21.
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18th December 2007, 21:09	#34
neo_trace BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: surat,gujarat Posts: 191 Thanked: 40 Times	i m driving TURBO CHARGED baleno sinc 2 yrs... viper performance tunned to 6psi with Lpg direct injection programeble ecm (tunned by Lovato italy)and car made successfully 45000kms got my clutch replaced ..turbo eat that
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18th December 2007, 21:21	#36
gemballa BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 368 Thanked: 319 Times	just turboing by 1.3 petrol swift running 8psi. piper cams uprated clutch, internals, 2pot brake upgrade and lots lots more
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18th December 2007, 23:48	#37
dragger BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: India-Mumbai-Colaba Posts: 350 Thanked: 6 Times	thanks for finally speaking in this topic jitu,always learn something new from your posts,besides that fahad sheikh of team fs is running a 1.3l sohc head from a g13b and the bottom half from the g15b,he was running a na setup earlier,currently he's working on lowering the compression and going the turbo route,a little off topic but i wanted to understand this from you jitu practically a g13b head with g15b bottom itself would be a high compression setup correct,im saying in stock form..?
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19th December 2007, 08:36	#40
DocG BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mumbai - Singapore - Cali - Sydney - S.Korea Posts: 870 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	well even though KS has a dyno...he's best at tuning Hondas, Lancers n Esteems...most experience with those sort of cars...One has to find the tuner who knows their car inside out, or if not that, then one who has worked on similar cars..no doubt all of them are capable Besides a dyno run is what 3000 rupees, that's not much when u wanna TC n mod ur ride in the engine department... Just my 2 paise
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19th December 2007, 08:53	#41
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	v1p3r: looking forward to it Ford Rocam: cfm vs. psi. a larger turbo can flow more air. but at 4psi there probably isnt much in the way of power differences. cfm is actual flow, or amount of air coming out of the turbo boost is a specific amount of measurement of compression that is occouring inside the piping/engine Last edited by iceman91 : 19th December 2007 at 08:56.
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19th December 2007, 22:54	#43
redeye BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 275 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	guys just curious how much would a turbo setup cost for a lancer???
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19th December 2007, 23:02	#44
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	What kind of output would you be looking at? Last edited by binz : 19th December 2007 at 23:13.
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19th December 2007, 23:08	#45
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Depends on power levels, I should think. Last edited by v1p3r : 19th December 2007 at 23:11.
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