[n_aditya]

Originally Posted by heinrici

After running in 1st gear on main stand as part of chain checkup, the engine check lamp doesn't go away. Have ridden the bike for 20 km after that but it still won't go away. Anyone knows how to reset it?

Did you update the console firmware version via the RE app?

A couple of bikes including mine displayed the CEL on the console after the software update. I've explained the issue and the fix on my ownership thread (Thimma, my new Himalayan 450 comes home. First Royal Enfield / ADV in my garage).

If it does not resolve your issue, report the issue via the RE app or call the nearest service centre.

[VijayAnand1]

Crucial Update on Potential Issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ort3gzHFy6M

Piggybacking along forums and my vested interest in the Himalayan 450, which was a prime candidate for a potential purchase. I've come across this bloke who's probably the first in India to get the following changed based on repeated redressal. The video is addressed in Tamil and English which is pretty fool-proof and self explanatory. Would strongly recommend to watch this.

A gist of what's replaced, per the user.

1. Repeated fork coneest "khat" sound. The issue was addressed after RE took in a thorough analysis and after repeated visits, the issue is solved (for now, per the user) by adding in a bush/spacer of sorts by the service center. Under warranty, status quo...

2. Second Major Update, as per the user. He'd been flaked with repeated harsh sounds from the engine, especially head. Again, after an analysis which meant a few visits to the SVC, the entire head assembly including valve train has been replaced. Top it up, they've requested the user to ride sedately for 500 KMS.. Harsh head ticking noises seems to be under control and significantly quietier post head replacement. Under warranty, status quo..

3. The left handlebar home button with intermittent working action. i.e. the home button getting recessed into and not releasing at times -- getting stuck. They've replaced the left switch gear assy. Under warranty, status quo..

4. User complained of excessive brake noises fore and aft. They've tried cleaning multiple times with no immediate solution. RE, now has replaced both the front and rear with brand new rotors along with brand new brake pads. Under warranty, status quo... The caveat emptor though is he mentions the sound persists even after replacement and concludes perhaps it's how the brakes sound.

Cheers!
VJ

[heinrici]

Originally Posted by n_aditya

Did you update the console firmware version via the RE app?

Yes updated to 00.53, during the same time i also did the experiment with the free moving rear wheel - so cannot say the Engine MIL light was because of the firmware update or the rear wheel moving on main stand.

Originally Posted by n_aditya

I've explained the issue and the fix on my ownership thread (Thimma, my new Himalayan 450 comes home. First Royal Enfield / ADV in my garage).

I tried removing and putting back the fuses - but the light did not go away immediately on switch on. However after about 2 console power cycles (key on/off) later in the day, the light went away by itself. So that's a total of about 4-5 power cycles since the time when the light first came on. So its either the fuse hack or the power cycles that told the firmware that all is ok and the light went away.

[saurabhgupta710]

Is the New Himalayan - a right option to look at

Hi All, I'm planning to go for RE 450. However, not sure if its the right fit for me. Would love to hear from you all, on the inputs and any suggestions:

My Body Stats:
I'm close to mid 30's, ~5.5" and on bulky side 85kg with an inseam- 27.5".

Bikes I've ridden and owned:
Honda Unicorn = ~15K Km
Avenger Street 220 = ~58K Km

Current ride:-
TVS Ronin top model. (will soon be starting a separate thread and sharing how i got to own one, and my experience so far).
The bike is a good package for city use but i feel on highways it lacks the mile munching on high speed and is very viby.
My dilemma about RE450 is, on Ronin - I don't have both legs flatly placed but 1 leg comfortably. (with pillion, both legs are comfortably flat foot). I am ok with 1foot being able to flat out..

Usage of bike:

• Office runs/city commute about 40%
• & 50-60% rides on any type of road - highways; trails or off the road on any types.

• The bike should be able to do city duties as well as highway munching
• Pillion seat comfort is a must. I know, we can of course get gel seats or custom seats, but the stance shouldn't be very aggressive or tiring.

Most of my weekend or rides are generally with my wifey, who's also my pillion on 1 up rides.

• Maintenance & Spares: Looking for a fuss free ownership; and decent service costs and intervals.

• Accessories: Owning Ronin made me realize the dearth in supplier as well as options to get accessories for the bike. Will be good to have a bike that meets my requirement and is also easy to accessorize it.

Budget is not an issue, but at max, can go up to 5 OTR in Bangalore (with Road tax being a bummer for KA state, that leaves with very little options to explore) for a new one, and also open to look at pre-loved segment.

Cheers!

[heinrici]

Originally Posted by saurabhgupta710

My dilemma about RE450 is, on Ronin - I don't have both legs flatly placed but 1 leg comfortably. (with pillion, both legs are comfortably flat foot). I am ok with 1foot being able to flat out..

The Himalayan 450 squats significantly with pillion. So to be sure you should test it with pillion. It is likely you will be able to half-foot both feet with pillion. Without pillion with a 27.5 inseam you will be unable to do that. Test extensively with and without pillion at slow speeds, stop & start to simulate rush hour traffic, and especially test U turns. Without both feet flat footing a first time rider of a heavy bike like this will be nervous so its important to test and gauge if you will be able to learn it later. The himalayan 450 has very good weight balance so once moving it feels very nimble.

Originally Posted by saurabhgupta710

[*]The bike should be able to do city duties as well as highway munching. Pillion seat comfort is a must.

An overwhelming majority of owners and reviewers have confirmed that the Himalayan 450 is very comfortable and strong for touring. Excellent suspension that eats up road bumps, sufficient space for luggage, spacious pillion seat. I have also observed excellent reviews for pillion comfort.

[Sebring]

I disagree. Its weight distribution makes it feel top-heavy, particularly noticeable during U-turns, which become a challenging task. While someone of average height, around 5'5", may find it relatively easy to mount, the inability to flat foot could be a concern. (Even we had a Unicorn for a decade, in the past). Moreover, the upcoming low seat might alleviate this issue to some extent. However, in terms of urban maneuverability, the bike falls short. Its length makes it difficult to navigate through tight gaps, rendering it less suited for city riding. Instead, I would recommend it primarily for highway use, where its stability and performance shine (But not over KTM 390 ADV, my other bike)

Originally Posted by heinrici

The himalayan 450 has very good weight balance so once moving it feels very nimble.

[VijayAnand1]

Originally Posted by Sebring

I disagree. Its weight distribution makes it feel top-heavy, particularly noticeable during U-turns, which become a challenging task. While someone of average height, around 5'5", may find it relatively easy to mount, the inability to flat foot could be a concern. (Even we had a Unicorn for a decade, in the past). Moreover, the upcoming low seat might alleviate this issue to some extent. However, in terms of urban maneuverability, the bike falls short. Its length makes it difficult to navigate through tight gaps, rendering it less suited for city riding. Instead, I would recommend it primarily for highway use, where its stability and performance shine (But not over KTM 390 ADV, my other bike)

I think what the OP mentioned wasn't about turning radius which indeed is a sore point. What he's mentioning is the bike is comparatively "flickable" when riding which I totally agree. Riding the bike, the bike is easily flickable -- as long as the bike is on the move. The weight and the heavy front end coupled with tight turning radius makes its presence felt at idle to crawl speeds which again I opine to. It does squat with a heavy pillion, which again can be sorted with simple rear preload adjustment per user requirements. Personally find the rear brakes too sharp for my liking, but again that's subjective.

The 450 handles 5x better if you were to compare it to an apples to apples perspective, 450 vs 411, courtesy those USD forks.

Cheers!
VJ

[tech_rider]

By reading multiple reviews here I get a feel that almost every owners have one or another point for dissatisfaction with the New Himalayan. I know there is no such thing as perfect bike. Is there any owner who is fully satisfied with what Himalayan 450 offers.

As the case of My current bike Honda Dazzler 2011, I am very happy with it till date. But its aging and 82k+ km usage, I decided to get new bike. When I was enquiring about resale price, I learnt that dazzler was a failed model and hence the offer value I am seeing is very low. I still cannot think of a single reason for considering it as failure model. Same for ola s1 pro in the family. I like it a lot except some painful service experience.

By seeing people complaining something about bikes in every threads, I wonder if I could ever upgrade to another bike. Is there very high intolerance with people, or is it really bad. I am not sure.

[NikhilosKage]

Originally Posted by tech_rider

Is there any owner who is fully satisfied with what Himalayan 450 offers.

I am satisfied with my Himalayan. It is an excellent bike. There are a few niggles I expect and I am completely okay with them. I find reasons to take the bike out whenever possible

[Sebring]

Please dont get me wrong. For the bargain price I paid, Im happy with my purchase
And Vijay, just not finding it very flickable in the city. It is the length plus the quick power needed on tap (My opinion)

Originally Posted by tech_rider

By reading multiple reviews here I get a feel that almost every owners have one or another point for dissatisfaction with the New Himalayan

[Explorer_Jassi]

I would be going for a PDI of my Kamet White Himalayan 450 today. I have got the teambhp RE Bike check sheet downloaded, do we have a Himalayan specific checklist available? Any specific points that i need to take care while doing PDI ?

[NikhilosKage]

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

Vibrations are aplenty. From the foot pegs to the handlebar to the seat. The vibrations especially kick in at 4.7k rpm and settle down at 5.7k rpm.

I found that the engine oil at ~1100 KMs, was completely black. I suspect the RE service center did not replace the entire engine oil during the first service. So, I went ahead and changed the engine oil from the Liquid Gun engine oil to Motul 7100 10W-40 fully synthetic one. Since, then the bike seems to have settled down and vibrations are less. I will report on this as I clock more KMs.

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

Will try the 845 mm seat height to see if this feels better.

I shifted to the 845 mm seat height and the experience has gotten better. For folks who don't mind the added seat height, I would recommend shifting to this.

[sukiwa]

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

I found that the engine oil at ~1100 KMs, was completely black.

Most engine oils (even in 4-wheelers) will turn black in matter of 10Kms or so from engine oil change. Very few engine oils will retail their original colour after few hundred Kms of riding. As long as engine performance remains smooth and one is following recommended oil change interval, it's fine.

So, I went ahead and changed the engine oil from the Liquid Gun engine oil to Motul 7100 10W-40 fully synthetic one. Since, then the bike seems to have settled down and vibrations are less. I will report on this as I clock more KMs.

You will witness benefits from semi-synthetic to fully-synthetic engine oil change. Yours would be one of first few bikes on forum to experience such an oil change. Past RE engines except for twin cylinder engines haven't had pleasant experience on fully-synthetic oils post 2000-2500Kms, so will look forward your experience as you munch up miles.

[Sebring]

Once back in the city I was planning to go straight to my mechanic and get my favourite Motul 7100 filled. Avoiding RE altogether.

Originally Posted by NikhilosKage

I found that the engine oil at ~1100 KMs, was completely black. I suspect the RE service center did not replace the entire engine oil during the first service. So, I went ahead and changed the engine oil from the Liquid Gun engine oil to Motul 7100 10W-40 fully synthetic one. Since, then the bike seems to have settled down and vibrations are less. I will report on this as I clock more KMs.

[tech_rider]

This person has changed rear sprocket of Himalayan 450 and claims low end torque is improved significantly. Seems it cost just 7-8k. Not sure if this will impact warranty though. Interested people can try.

If I am correct, Triumph did similar thing on speed 400 to improve low end for scrambler 400x

https://youtu.be/5ixm_D9t3xc?si=jDhiJYBVV7MS1c_3