The Gearless Scooter Thread

sunilbakshi · 17th January 2008, 10:12

definitely the OD numbers are printing error... proof is that OD has given FLYTE scooter of the year 2008, and also declared FLYTE as their choice.
and its not just OD. Flyte has gotten very very positive reviews from everyone, even autocar india gave Flyte a higher rating than Access; and flyte owners have also given it a thumbs up.

Basically Flyte IS a very good scooter, and the fact that Kinetic SYM have produced such a good scooter shows that it is a good company.

As for the Aviator, Honda should've put in a 125cc engine, and front fueling should ve been there. I dont think people at the expo were impressed with the Aviator. Optional disc brakes is a good move, but a loaded Aviator will cost nearly 50,000 on road. And you'll still have to deal with dealers bad attitudes.

The Flyte and also the Access has surprised the market and competitors by making a big leap forward.

sunilbakshi · 17th January 2008, 12:01

also i think that that flyte is marketed as womans scooter because kinetic first wants to go after the scooty pep buyers. its all just a marketing thing doesnt mean that men will have a problem riding the flyte. dont get taken in by advertising

in fact, i've seen 3-4 flytes so far on roads and they were all being ridden by men!

phamilyman · 17th January 2008, 12:26

Can some mod come in here, clean out the fan fighting and leave this thread for just DCEite's buying experience/review? A 125cc scoot-fan thread can be split if necessary

DCEite · 17th January 2008, 12:40

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

Can some mod come in here, clean out the fan fighting and leave this thread for just DCEite's buying experience/review? A 125cc scoot-fan thread can be split if necessary

I won't call a healthy debate 'fighting'. Ofcourse, if things go out of hand, i am always here.

ballkey · 17th January 2008, 13:59

So DCEite, how is the FE now? Any rattles, creaks, other issues with the Flyte? Is it reasonably zippy?

DCEite · 17th January 2008, 14:33

FE before 1st service was around 35kmpl. Haven't measured since.
There are no rattles or creaks. However, i got a buzzer installed for indicator on first service, but it has gone kaput. Other than that, there were some cold start issues (or so i thought) which were addressed promptly by Kinetic. The Kinetic area engineer visited my home to verify the scooter operation. Explained me in detailed about choke operation. Also i got a few calls from Kinetic Pune asking me about my satisfaction levels with the scooter.

chvvkumar · 17th January 2008, 14:35

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@Ravi
Problem again, the front indicator bulbs of my Flyte have gone again

My blazes' brake light acts the same! Evry 2 months, it dies and I have to replace it (or it might be my overusage of brakes)

ravi@64bhp · 17th January 2008, 15:27

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Originally Posted by sunilbakshi

also i think that that flyte is marketed as womans scooter because kinetic first wants to go after the scooty pep buyers. its all just a marketing thing doesnt mean that men will have a problem riding the flyte. dont get taken in by advertising

in fact, i've seen 3-4 flytes so far on roads and they were all being ridden by men!

I am one among them

. I have seen guys looking curiously me riding a Flyte, but I do not care. It is really a fantastic scooter to ride in city. I love to ride it.

sathyaprakash · 17th January 2008, 21:54

ravi64> may be people are curious to see a man driving a female scooty, by the way i dont see much difference in extra 25cc in our traffic other than consuming more fuel, and further there is no wrong in to bet on a proven engine like activa to further expand the models.

Has any one thought about the real advantages with an Honda engine,bigger wheel and a disc brake other an punny increase in CC.

sathyaprakash · 17th January 2008, 22:01

hoolywood > Not that i have bought a sour lemon(Flyte) man i am actually guiding u people to an juicy Orange.
DCelite >

sathyaprakash · 17th January 2008, 22:05

DCelite> I have been riding various ungeared scooters right from Kinetic Honda if ur more intrested in CC can u list out the difference a punny 23CC extra can make so that others in the forum can know better

chvvkumar · 17th January 2008, 22:11

You are right...but (ofcource its a subjective matter) don't you think that aviator looks like the back of the activa bolted on to the fromt of the honda cub from the pic posted above? IMHO big wheels with skinny tyres don't go well.

hollywoodhogan · 17th January 2008, 23:02

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Originally Posted by sathyaprakash

hoolywood > Not that i have bought a sour lemon(Flyte) man i am actually guiding u people to an juicy Orange.
DCelite >

one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter

one man's juicy lemon is another's sour orange

ravi@64bhp · 17th January 2008, 23:36

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Originally Posted by hollywoodhogan

one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter

one man's juicy lemon is another's sour orange

Wellsaid hollywoodhogan

Satyaprakash, why to argue about Aviator's 'qualities' when it is not launched (to showrooms)? I reserve my comments till it is seen on roads

.

deetee · 18th January 2008, 00:32

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Originally Posted by ravi@64bhp

Manish,
I suggest you to choose between SYM Flyte and HH Pleasure, if it is being used by your wife. The Flyte's engine is refined and smoother, but not equal to a Honda engine.

As for the service of Kinetic, three days back the company personnel personally called and attended to the problem regarding the indicator bulbs and they rectified and it really surprised me.

The Flyte, I found, is a very good scooter and am really enjoying everytime I get oppurtunity to ride it.

The plus points of Kinetic Flyte over Pleasure/dio/activa are,

1. Telescopic front suspension which enhances the breaking and stability.
2. Font fuel filling, easy and convenient.
3. 22 Lts of luggage space under the seat. Can hold a half-helmet (small full face helmet also) and some luggage.
4. 9 Amps battery.
5. 3 years engine warranty (for first 10000 customers)
6. Excellent ride and handling.

If you really want peace of mind and do not bother about the above qualities, I suggest you to go for HH pleasure.

If you are going to use the scooter, I suggest you to wait till March for Honda's Aviator, which has some real cool features, like 12 inch rims, disk brake, good luggage space.

I second that. We have a HH pleasure in our family ,my wife uses it mostly. It was some 5 months back and then for girls the only choices were H-Dio(ugly,i felt), HH pleasure and PeP+.

Could not wait for Access/flyte as it was kind of urgent requirement. HH pleasure has same engine as that of Activa, only the rims/tyres/electricals and body change. I think even the suspension is same as activa.
+ points:
Butter smooth ride(only on flat roads)
Good throttle response.
Decent luggage space- a full faced helmet can fit in.
Tuff up tubes and Zappper tyres.(widest in the segment).
Wide seat.
Bright head lamp.
Cute design.
- points:
very harsh suspension.
Small petrol tank.

Among the current models, flyte is definite competetor for Pleasure with following advantages:
Much better suspension- really important in long run- who cares for a smooth engine when ride itself is harsh.
Seat is a bit more soft than pleasure's.
More Legroom. Pleasure design is like a fibre glass scooter. Your knees need to be bent.Flyte is better(credit to Pep for it is the one which came first with this type of design)
More dicky space.
Better pickup.
Disadvantages:
Unreliable Kinetic service . HH scores better here.
Pleasure looks better than flyte,IMHO.

Given a choice now, i would choose Flyte for the sheer comfort.

17th January 2008, 10:12	#286
sunilbakshi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	flyte definitely the OD numbers are printing error... proof is that OD has given FLYTE scooter of the year 2008, and also declared FLYTE as their choice. and its not just OD. Flyte has gotten very very positive reviews from everyone, even autocar india gave Flyte a higher rating than Access; and flyte owners have also given it a thumbs up. Basically Flyte IS a very good scooter, and the fact that Kinetic SYM have produced such a good scooter shows that it is a good company. As for the Aviator, Honda should've put in a 125cc engine, and front fueling should ve been there. I dont think people at the expo were impressed with the Aviator. Optional disc brakes is a good move, but a loaded Aviator will cost nearly 50,000 on road. And you'll still have to deal with dealers bad attitudes. The Flyte and also the Access has surprised the market and competitors by making a big leap forward. Last edited by sunilbakshi : 17th January 2008 at 10:13. Reason: typo fix
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17th January 2008, 12:01	#287
sunilbakshi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 109 Thanked: 0 Times	also i think that that flyte is marketed as womans scooter because kinetic first wants to go after the scooty pep buyers. its all just a marketing thing doesnt mean that men will have a problem riding the flyte. dont get taken in by advertising in fact, i've seen 3-4 flytes so far on roads and they were all being ridden by men! Last edited by sunilbakshi : 17th January 2008 at 12:05. Reason: typo fix
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17th January 2008, 12:26	#288
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Can some mod come in here, clean out the fan fighting and leave this thread for just DCEite's buying experience/review? A 125cc scoot-fan thread can be split if necessary
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17th January 2008, 13:59	#290
ballkey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 425 Thanked: 35 Times	So DCEite, how is the FE now? Any rattles, creaks, other issues with the Flyte? Is it reasonably zippy?
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17th January 2008, 14:33	#291
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,418 Thanked: 2,571 Times	FE before 1st service was around 35kmpl. Haven't measured since. There are no rattles or creaks. However, i got a buzzer installed for indicator on first service, but it has gone kaput. Other than that, there were some cold start issues (or so i thought) which were addressed promptly by Kinetic. The Kinetic area engineer visited my home to verify the scooter operation. Explained me in detailed about choke operation. Also i got a few calls from Kinetic Pune asking me about my satisfaction levels with the scooter.
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17th January 2008, 21:54	#294
sathyaprakash BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 448 Thanked: 46 Times	ravi64> may be people are curious to see a man driving a female scooty, by the way i dont see much difference in extra 25cc in our traffic other than consuming more fuel, and further there is no wrong in to bet on a proven engine like activa to further expand the models. Has any one thought about the real advantages with an Honda engine,bigger wheel and a disc brake other an punny increase in CC.
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17th January 2008, 22:01	#295
sathyaprakash BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 448 Thanked: 46 Times	hoolywood > Not that i have bought a sour lemon(Flyte) man i am actually guiding u people to an juicy Orange. DCelite >
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17th January 2008, 22:05	#296
sathyaprakash BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 448 Thanked: 46 Times	DCelite> I have been riding various ungeared scooters right from Kinetic Honda if ur more intrested in CC can u list out the difference a punny 23CC extra can make so that others in the forum can know better
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17th January 2008, 22:11	#297
chvvkumar BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Visakhapatnam Posts: 44 Thanked: Once	You are right...but (ofcource its a subjective matter) don't you think that aviator looks like the back of the activa bolted on to the fromt of the honda cub from the pic posted above? IMHO big wheels with skinny tyres don't go well.
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