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Originally Posted by Aceman82 Thanks for the Brilliant review Tsk. Rated this thread as 5 stars since there is no other higher stars to give .
Coming to the Storme , what is your take on the Lx model ? I understand that Vx model is not VFM and for that amount of money in the 4*2 avatar the XUV would be better bet both in terms of features and possibly resale value but where would the Lx model fit in in the VFM factor ? For a comfortable 5 seat usage + rare 7 seat usage would the Storme Lx fit the bill (or) would it be better to stretch for XUV itself and play it safe ?
Also i saw your inputs on the lack of under thigh support for Tall drivers in the front seat. How bad is the problem + the issue of steering wheel touching the thigh ? Driver Ergonomics was never Tata's strongest point (if my Indica is anything to go by) but the above two points seems to deal breakers for Tall drivers (6.1) like myself. |
Regarding the LX, for 10L I would say its a wonderful vehicle. ABS is standard, and dynamics are all sorted out. You also get the stereo system(Albeit without the stalk mounted controls).
So as a vehicle, its a good buy. I would not consider the scorpio as competition. The Storme has left it far behind.
But its understandable. When the new scorpio comes out(I am hearing maybe next year), that may change things.
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Originally Posted by absynthguzzler Great review buttt....
I think Team-Bhp must break the mould of always having their official reviews done in the these controlled environments. The reviews were more interactive and stood out as " WHAM!!!....... this is how its done all you auto mags!!" when this amazing team used to take the vehicle out into their own domain and make merry with the car exactly how they would want to in real life. for eg: The 4x4 section in this review is designed for the storme, not designed by team-bhp!. |
Err. I an assure you, Tata is based on Pune and has no controls over the NCR roads. So there was no traffic management done for the 300 kms(approx) I drove the safari.
I also got a 3.0 liter owner to drive it, and Viddy also drove it for 20kms(he drivers a hatch and a D seg sedan)
If you are referring to 4x4, we have nowhere said that this is an exhaustive 4x4 review. 4x4 gets a small post with just some observations, eg good articulation, shift on fly mechanism etc., Nowhere we have "reviewed" the 4x4.
So I am wondering where did the controlled environment come in
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Atleast have an additional section added into this official review once the vehicle is available in the market. Just as an example - Khan Sultan's THAR review was mind-blowing, TSK's very own Cruze review had a lady's perspective thrown in. All these small widgets are getting lost when the sponsor of the event is the manufacturer. Everyone knows that Official review thread is the 1st option to be read, but the detail and experience is lost because value of team-bhp will be hidden in the ownership section.
Hmm, seems like I've woken up on the wrong side of the bed today but hope you guys know i mean well |
That section is still there. And I am not sure what even you are talking around. Again I assure you, NCR roads are not sponsored by Tata.
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Originally Posted by kaviprem Tanveer, A very nice and detailed review. I need a clarification on this though - When you say "panel gaps still being a problem", you mean "Uneven panel gaps" OR panel gaps are too large ?
Nevertheless, a superb review. Appreciate your efforts and its sure a weekend treat to most of us !
Prem. |
Its actually both, just like the old safari. Panel gaps are big, and there is lack of consistancy. Not that it will cause any malfunction in the vehicle, its just that we are in 2012, and even budget cars nowadays are manufactured with precision.
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Originally Posted by S@ndy Mind-Blowing review Tanveer! 5-Stars is the bare minimum I can give for this thread. Tata could've used this oppurtunity to iron out all the niggles of ol' Safari. Well, nonetheless, good to see that safari is now a whole lot better to own and mainly overtakes ol' Safari in terms of everything but ICE is a big letdown here. The HU looks like an aftermarket fitment and the one they remembered after making the whole vehicle. The interior could've been influenced by Range Rovers. is there an Automatic for Safari? Is there any probability of coming of Jaguar's rotary-style gearknob in Safari anytime? If so, then my cheque-book is ready to be used!
Again, your attention to the most minute details is appreciated and deeply respected. This review would help a lot of BHPians like me!
Keep revvin'
S@ndy |
There is no plan to bring in Automatic, this is what the Tata reps told me.
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Originally Posted by r0ckstar.1 Tanveer, forgot to ask the important question in my post. Not sure if you have already answered this anywhere, but, "would you replace your existing safari with the new storme now"?? |
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Originally Posted by rajneeesh Great review Tanveer,
One question for you. Will it replace the White Elephant in your garage ?
Your review also makes it a part of the consideration set for the SX 4 replacement. I will take the decision after I have driven the Storme, the Duster and the Ecosport (once it is launched) |
The VX 4x4 is very expensive. Considering that the white elephant may go for 5-6L only, it means I have to put in 9L+ if I have to get the storme 4x4.
So I really do not know.
However, after driving the storme, I cannot buy the scorpio 4x4(my original plan).
Wish the LX 4x4 was on the cards, it would have been a much easier decision.
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Originally Posted by turbo1787 Brilliant review Tanveer Sir.
I had been waiting for this since ages.
One aspect which I would like to know about is whether there is scope for fitting in a touch screen-double din HU(The workshorse should have some jazz too), or would it be too tedious a task?.
Thanks for the most to-the-point review |
You will lose the cup holders if you go for double DIN. Or you will have to use very small cups
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Originally Posted by theMAG Nice review. Some queries:
1. Can you arrange Storme, Duster, XUV, Scorpio by:
a. Ride comfort
b. Handling
c. Mileage (4x2)
2. Most of the improvements seem to be due to requirement rather than anything else. Did you see anything to justify the hype that was present a few months before this launch? |
1 (No idea about duster)
a. Ride comfort : Storme > XUV >> Scorpio
b. Handling : XUV>Storme>>SCorpio
c. I think XUV would be the best(lightest + 2wd has less losses)
2. Its an iconic vehicle, so yes, there always be a hype. I would say, since its the most improved safari yet, the hype was justified. But Tata has not done what they really could have. This vehicle could have gone to the next level.