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Old 18th October 2020, 00:29   #91
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Don't expect much of a change. Even after 20 years and many changes (including a new chassis), the Scorpio still rides all bumpy & jiggly. Strange how Mahindra tunes one body-on-frame so well (Marazzo), and then others not so well.

Besides Duster, Ecosport and possibly Interceptor 650, I don’t recall any other product launch that has attracted as much crowd to the showrooms as Thar has (that too in the current economic environment). Having sensed the potential, Mahindra won’t let the opportunity pass. I hope they accept this challenge and respond positively.
In regards to my booking, here’s the criteria :
1. Significant change in the ride quality a.k.a Highway worthiness -will stick to the same variant
2. Acceptable change or city/ weekend ride worthy - Downgrade to pocket friendly AX
3. No change by Mar’21 - cancel and wait for Jimmy
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Old 18th October 2020, 07:28   #92
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Here it is.
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Hope this helps
This quote is for 1st year 0 Depreciation Comprehensive Insurance only while what the other dealers are quoting is 1st year 0 dep + 2/3 years Third Party insurance which is different and will be higher.

But even otherwise the insurance from dealer is always higher and they more often than not agree to match whatever offer you get from the market, for the same terms. Only a few gullible who don't realize this fall for this and don't negotiate buying the same insurance with same terms at much higher prices.

On a side note, can't something be done about this as this?. Does this not come under fair practice terms as how can someone quote a higher premium for a term and then match almost 40% less if you negotiate, even in the name of discounts etc.?.
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Not sure what the “official” means in the title but looks like this guy was one of the first on an accident scene involving a Thar test vehicle.

Looks like a pretty major frontal impact but luckily occupants are safe.

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My 2 queries are: wont front facing seat in 2nd row better option than current one considering ingress from front row is very difficult?
Do you mean to say rear facing? Actually that is not a bad idea and I am not sure why M&M did not think of that. Could have possibly been a better layout in terms of flexibility - i.e., one could retain the seats in normal position and still load a good deal of luggage. Ingress may also be easier and kids would love this arrangement, looking backward. It is also not as unsafe as side facing seats, London taxis all have rear facing seats. Intriguing idea indeed!
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Sorry my mistaek, yes I meant side facing seats like 3rd row in Safari or even Tailgate facing seats like you mentioned.

Since this is not life style vehicle, above options could be provided, if not as default.
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I just got a chance to experience the display Thar in Belgaum, but no test drives yet. I say, why Mahindra messes up the test drives? They have a phase-wise test drive system wherein the Tier 1 cities get them from 2nd Oct onwards, Tier2 10th Oct onwards,bla bla bla.. but now its 18th Oct and still no test drive available in my city nor the nearby cities.

Mahindra should have all the three main variants, the hard top, covertible and the AX lined up in front of their showrooms for test drives(At-least in Tier1 cities) considering the hype they created and the volume projections they have made for this new Thar. The way they are handling prospective customers is simply not done and I am afraid this initial excitement will only shrink with such slapdash arrangement!

Coming to the new Thar, I am 6'2" and kind of athletic built, the moment I entered the driver seat, the centre console right side panel started brushing my left knee, and there is a seriously large protrusion at both the sides of the centre console right till the floor area, which is why the footwell is really cramped. The under thigh support of the front seats is not that great either but just manageable. Rear seats have zero under thigh support for my height and are best for anyone who is 5'6" and below, however entering into the rear isnt that cumbersome than i had thought. Just pull the flappy lever on the front co-passenger seat shoulder and slide it forward. I found quite a few inconsistencies in plastics, panels but its million miles ahead than the previous gen Thar. The diesel engine felt super refined and relaxed and cant wait to see how it drives.

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A lot has been said already about the bouncy and unsettled ride quality of the Thar.

However, having driven the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and Gladiator quite a bit, I felt that even for those cards, the suspension felt the same. There is a lot of bounciness and body roll even on paved roads and highways. Never felt like the settled drive quality of all the non off-road AWD SUVs like Mazda CX5, Nissan Rogue, Hyundai Santa Fe/Tucson and the Jag F-Pace.

That said, let me caveat it by saying that I have not TD'd the Thar 2020 yet as our friendly neighborhood dealer Royal Motors, Kolkata has parked the LX inside the showroom and is using the AX for TDs.

However, I did visit the showroom with my parents and both my mom (~almost 60, with Arthritis) was able to climb into the backseat with much less difficulty than I expected. The same with my dad, who is on the higher side of 60's.
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Bangaloreans - There is a mystic copper Thar in Sireesh service center, Singasandra, if anyone want to check it out in person, the color. I was there for something else and found that parked there. Not sure how long it will be, but is there at present.
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Do you mean to say rear facing? Actually that is not a bad idea and I am not sure why M&M did not think of that. Could have possibly been a better layout in terms of flexibility - i.e., one could retain the seats in normal position and still load a good deal of luggage. Ingress may also be easier and kids would love this arrangement, looking backward. It is also not as unsafe as side facing seats, London taxis all have rear facing seats. Intriguing idea indeed!
Wouldn't rear facing seats on a bumpy suspension be a recipe for vomit inducing vertigo (motion sickness) for sensitive folks and even more so on long drives, especially on the hills?
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You are planning to negotiate later but then,
what are the chances that during delivery you can buy insurance from outside?
They will delay the sale saying it’s compulsory to buy from them. Might as well allot the car to obliging customers.
30k is big money for them to lose. Seeing the demand we can safely assume that latecomers will be happy to oblige, be it pricey insurance or unwanted kits/accessories.
Maybe escalate now. Hopefully Mahindra takes note. The dealership might avoid delaying delivery too.
Well after your comment i went to meet sales executive today again. He confirmed with reluctant 'ok' to take insurance from outside but cashless wouldn't be possible. In-short if mishap occurs pay money first and then reimburse.

I called majority dealers in Gujarat for the same but for the new Thar they have same attitude of no cashless if outside insurance is opted. Now its wait and watch till delivery begins for me. Once vehicle allotment is done i will try negotiating.
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After extensive search through youtube videos, reviews, live Q&A interviews and talk with experts my inference of approximate real world fuel economy according to engine and transmission is as follows:

Petrol Automatic
City: 06-08 kmpl
Highway: 10-11 kmpl

Diesel Automatic
City: 09-11 kmpl
Highway: 13-14 kmpl

Diesel Manual
City: 10-12 kmpl
Highway: 14-15 kmpl

No knowledge on petrol manual fuel economy as have not seen a single video or review of it.

Also i test drove both diesel automatic and manual for about 30 km each in city traffic, the fuel economy displayed on MID of automatic was 11.8 kmpl and manual was 12.9 kmpl. While i don't agree with MID numbers, posted here just for reference.
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Mahindra Thar Review


Mahindra Thar Cons



• Very bumpy ride quality. The Thar is never settled, no matter what the road or speed
• Poor road manners at high speed. Best to cruise at 100 - 110 km/h only
• Impractical due to the 2-doors, 4 seats (not 5) & difficult access to the back seat
• Laughably small boot simply isn’t enough for holiday luggage
• Petrol AT is thirsty due to its hefty weight, 150 BHP & torque-converter AT
• Premium pricing for the higher variants. Lot of money for the Thar's limited usability
• Sad feature list for a 17-lakh car. No reversing cam, auto-dimming IRVM, auto headlamps & wipers, electrically-folding ORVMs, rear wash & wipe…
• Apprehensions of niggles & Mahindra's hit-or-miss after-sales service quality
Excellent review as always and I especially appreciate the 'no bias' approach in this forum even when the moderators are inclined to buy the product.

I remember that in 2010, in one of the threads for Thar launched then, I was reading and commented all excited about owning this beast and wanting to know more. Of course, I did not purchase because of the shortcomings that I read about. Fast forward 10 years and I'm still disappointed to see these cons. Of course this Thar is much much better than its first avatar but the moot question for someone like me is whether it can be my second car. Unfortunately I don't think it still can be and here are the reasons why.

1. Thar is probably most useful in difficult terrain like the hills in the North, bad roads and again a hilly terrain in the North East or the off-road trails in Western Ghats. For me in Hyderabad, it doesn't make much sense, unless I'm into offroading, which I'm not. So where will I take this Thar to?

2. I'm more into longer road trips and 90%-95% of the terrain that I drive on are decent to mildly bad roads, mostly South and Central India. Don't really need a 4*4 to handle these roads and I already have a car with a higher ground clearance to handle such roads.

3. As I grow older, comfort and ergonomics become a priority. I still want to be able to ride cars as long as I can, rather than have health issues that would lessen my car-driving expectancy.

4. After paying 15-17 big ones on-road, why should I still have limitations on what speed to cruise on, how much luggage to carry, etc. What's the use of a lifestyle vehicles, if I'm going to compromise so much on my travel style?

5. And assuming I ignore the above 4 points and go ahead with the purchase, I'm still dealing with the fact that I'll probably not have a complete peace-of-mind ownership and will have to deal with niggles and issues.

No offence to fellow owners and off-roaders who love the Thar but more than Thar itself, I'm disappointed with the slow evolution of our local manufacturers and why we Indians should compromise on so many things to own a lifestyle car even in 2020.
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So got the quotation from the dealer (Sireesh Auto, Silk Board, Bangalore) today.

Insurance is being quoted as Rs. 88,400 for zero dep with 2 years of additional third party insurance.

My question is what does this insurance mean ? Next year when I need to renew, since I already have the third party insurance for additional 2 years, can I only renew own insurance part ?

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My question is what does this insurance mean ? Next year when I need to renew, since I already have the third party insurance for additional 2 years, can I only renew own insurance part ?...............

Yes only the Own Damage(OD) part of the Insurance will be renewed. This is in line with the ruling by Supreme Court. All 4W to have 3 year mandatory Third Party(TP) Insurance. And 1 Year OD premium.

Replying to some guy who posted that the Kanpur Dealer has just posted for 1 year. Nope. That is the genuine Insurance for 1yr OD +3 Yr TP. Just that he has offered a full discounted price. Which is excellent for the buyer. No one will be able to undercut this guy for sure!
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Yes only the Own Damage(OD) part of the Insurance will be renewed. This is in line with the ruling by Supreme Court. All 4W to have 3 year mandatory Third Party(TP) Insurance. And 1 Year OD premium.

Replying to some guy who posted that the Kanpur Dealer has just posted for 1 year. Nope. That is the genuine Insurance for 1yr OD +3 Yr TP. Just that he has offered a full discounted price. Which is excellent for the buyer. No one will be able to undercut this guy for sure!
Thanks for clarifying, I'll get the details tomorrow, from the dealer.

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Edit:
Just received the confirmation, it includes 2 years TP

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