[Born 2 Be Wild]

Originally Posted by amol4184

Also is it the manufacturing date or the registration date that matters for resale? Either way, I don't understand this phenomenon

Its always the manufacturing date thats mentioned on the RC of the vehicle that matters when it comes to calculating age of the vehicle, or at the time of resale, dealers are smart and tend to confuse people with registeration date as being the one that matters which is never the case.

[jkrishnakj]

True that Born2b2wild. But unfortunately, in a resale, the first question asked is which ‘year’ model , and that generally implies the Registration Date of the car. Such is the practice of the used car market.

That said, speaking for myself, I never buy a car thinking about when I can sell that and even my booking of the Thar is largely to enjoy and cherish the ownership, but not to worry about its resale.

[techfreak]

Originally Posted by jkrishnakj

True that Born2b2wild. But unfortunately, in a resale, the first question asked is which ‘year’ model , and that generally implies the Registration Date of the car. Such is the practice of the used car market.

That said, speaking for myself, I never buy a car thinking about when I can sell that and even my booking of the Thar is largely to enjoy and cherish the ownership, but not to worry about its resale.

Absolutely a car or bike or any other personal vehicle for me personally has been a means of joy n pleasure or worst work. While booking I never think about how much am I going get during selling at the end of life of the machine.

All my cars 3 of them, bikes have been Nov/ Dec purchases and I don't regret.

Anyway updating on the Thar, today my dealer also gave me a call mentioning that they don't have any control over date of delivery and it's totally with M&M (which I agree) and if I am not ready to accept delivery post 15 Dec I can cancel the booking.

Now the heart over head thing is becoming kind of true for me....spent the whole day researching on Trailhawk - DMaxV Cross etc 😜

[84.monsoon]

Booked on October 6th for a Diesel HT AT mystic copper and have been given a delivery date of December 21st. Just in time for the holidays! Hope it does not get moved again.

[abhinavsureka]

I booked 2 Thars within half an hour of the price announcement. and one more after about a week. The first one is for me and the other 2 for friends but i am coordinating on their behalf.

1st one is LX MT CT diesel in red - expected date 17th November
2nd one is LX MT HT diesel in Black - Expected date 20th November
3rd one is LX AT CT diesel in black - Expected date 9th Jan (booked a few days late)


The dealer also told us that these dates are the "latest by" dates and they might be able to bring the cars to us a little earlier.

Will visit the dealership in the next few days to finalise the accessories. As of now i'm planning to get the magnetic sunblinds, mudflaps, reversing camera, mats and a car body cover. Before the next offroading season i'll think about the snorkel and winch.

[Rajiv0909]

Originally Posted by kiku007

Just curious.

Why wouldn't you accept a car that's manufactured in 2020 and delivered in 2021?

You haven't decided if you realy want to buy the That but booked it 16 minutes after the bookings were made open? Is there some competition on who gets it first?

Even the TBHP review called out the obvious red flags and suggests people wait it out and see if the niggles are addressed. But people go ahead and place the order and then complain about delivery date and manufactured year as if these are the bigger concerns.

I mean, I just don't get it.

#1 - Heard of year end discounts? There has to be a reason why they exist. Even if there is 1% chance that difference in manufactured year and registration year would impact resale value, I see no reason to risk especially when I am paying full price

#2 - I hadn't expected the ride quality to be as bad at the time of booking. Since it hasn't met my expectations, this delay gives me time to decide if I really want to buy or cancel/downgrade my booking. Early adoption has it's advantages - one beats the queue & price hikes (eventually better resale), get attention/better service/free upgrades from the manufacturer. I have made 2 such purchases in the past and have worked well for me. Did you really think it was about some competition?

In the end, to each his own!

[kiku007]

Originally Posted by sv97

The reason for this might be lower re-sale value because manufacturing year is important when the car needs to be sold after a few years and not the initial niggles I suppose.

Originally Posted by amol4184

Also is it the manufacturing date or the registration date that matters for resale? Either way, I don't understand this phenomenon

Well, the condition of the car is more important. Isn't it?

I bought a Fiesta and registered it in December 2009. In late 2015 it was sold as a 6 year old Fiesta that's done xyz kms but well maintained. The used car dealers offered paltry sums stating all the ridiculous reasons. But a private buyer bought it for a good price since he knew it's true worth.

Used car dealers will give a load of BS to sell a car at a higher price but offer a much lower price when they buy. That's their business model and I don't let those low-ballers decide my fate.

Originally Posted by Rajiv0909

#1 - Heard of year end discounts? There has to be a reason why they exist. Even if there is 1% chance that difference in manufactured year and registration year would impact resale value, I see no reason to risk especially when I am paying full price

Would you accept vehicles manufactured and registered in October, November or December? What if they impact the resale value by even 1% than the one in the first quarter of the following year?

Originally Posted by Rajiv0909

#2 - I hadn't expected the ride quality to be as bad at the time of booking. Since it hasn't met my expectations, this delay gives me time to decide if I really want to buy or cancel/downgrade my booking. Early adoption has it's advantages - one beats the queue & price hikes (eventually better resale), get attention/better service/free upgrades from the manufacturer. I have made 2 such purchases in the past and have worked well for me. Did you really think it was about some competition?

In the end, to each his own!

Resale value is paramount for you. Just remember that a couple of years down the line, people may try to stay away from the initial batch of vehicles because of their niggles that may impact your projected resale value. But hey may be you beat the price hike and make up for the difference I guess.

Good luck!


Also, I'm surprised to know that the beta-tester program offers better attention, service and free upgrades. Enjoy.

[balenoed_]

To all those who are eagerly waiting for your delivery, here is something for you to read in the mean time, get a copy if you want:


INR 5400/- (could've given a free copy to all buyers)

No dearth of any advertisement for Thar.

[pelican90]

I test drove the THAR Diesel LX AT Hard Top at Koncept, South Ex. Delhi. While there were only doing short TDs (long TDs after Diwali only the SE said), I spent over 2 hours with the car overall to evaluate & check out things that mattered.

THE LOOKS – The Thar’s front profile looks way better in real life than what it does in pictures and videos. I found the side profile to be a little too compact, probably something that will be bettered in the 5-door version. I don’t remember the last time when I saw a car and was so impressed. The TD vehicle at Koncept Mahindra had the intense chrome kit installed on the Napoli black color, which made it look amazing to say the least. The alloy wheels are absolutely stunning too. The car has an enviable road presence and will surely turn heads wherever it goes. It’s the ultimate show-off toy in this respect.

THE INTERIORS – The climb inside was not easy, and good luck having your parents do the climb, even if it’s for the front seats. You sit high above the ground, and it does seem like a tank. The visibility is fantastic, the ORVMs do the job. But it’s the gadgetry inside which will let you down. The fit and finish is very poor to say the least. Even the steering wheel had unfinished plastic on it. The door handles did not inspire any confidence and the seat comfort was average at best. The sense of occasion and finish inside the cabin was comparable to cars from 5-6 years ago. It’s not going to be easy to sell this to your wife based on solely how it looks outside. Please consider the THAR to be a 2-seater if you’re getting one, because when I sat at the back, with the closed windows, there is a chance, one may feel a bit claustrophobic. The climb to get into the back seat wasn’t easy for me (5’10”) though the leg space is decent. I don’t think the elders in the family would ever want to sit in the backseats, unless they are out of options. The wheel well cover finish is poor and makes it seem like a car far cheaper than the 16L that Mahindra is asking for it. The brake light wires were sticking out. Overall, it was a deal breaker for me, of sorts.

THE DRIVE – the THAR is not for comfortable long drives, even in the city, forget the highway. It’s bouncy and makes you underconfident at high speeds. I loved the AT unit from Aisin, it’s very quick to your inputs. The steering is light and will be easy for your better half to maneuver and park. But there is a lot of body roll and I don’t see this as being a confident and safe highway mile muncher. It will keep you on the edge when you’re travelling with family. I wish they had done a better job on the Thar’s road manners.

OVERALL – I went into the showroom looking for the LX variant, looking for a comfortable car with off-roading capabilities. But it turned out to be an off roader with some comfort capabilities thrown in. I didn’t see value in making this my primary car, as there are way too many sacrifices that one needs to make for the looks and the off-roading capabilities. If you’re a hardcore off-roader and you want this to take you to office on Monday to Friday, it will just about do the job. But it will fail to delight on weekdays by any stretch of imagination. Considering the car misses out on things that are considered basics in 2020, I don’t think the interior will age well. You will surely have to spend a bomb on after-market stuff very soon, to bring it in line with cars of this era, after the initial excitement dies down.
While the Thar 2020 is a mighty leap ahead from the earlier-gen Thar, the compromises are far too many to make it a sensible choice for a large number of people. In the current form, with its chinks and misses, it’s even tougher to justify buying it, I would suggest that people wait for a version 2.0 from the production line after 6-8 months which has the initial customer feedback built into it.

For Mahindra, they’ve done a great job at this and could look at a 2-3K unit a month average after the initial order rush subsides. Only the 5-door version (with the learnings from the current version of the Thar) would make the Thar claim the rightful positioning of a family lifestyle variant of an off-road capable vehicle. If they spend too much time in developing the revised version and offering a five-door variant, they will miss out on the mad hype that the launch has been able to create.
Was hoping for this one to be my first Mahindra. Right now, it’s not quite there yet, in my humble opinion.

[soumobakshi]

And this what M&M is committing for a booking Done on the 2nd October itself.

It's really unnecessary to launch a vehicle and then keep customers hanging in the air with a threat of 10% cancellation charges.
Heck even now they don't have an AT HT Diesel in Bangalore for a test drive.

[CEF_Beasts]

DC has released images of the latest gen Thar they have modified and boy oh boy what a disaster. What a mess!

[ph03n!x]

While the wait for delivery is killing (my delivery date is tentatively Dec 3rd), I looked up some accessories that I'd want for the Thar.

• Front & Rear Mud Protector - Rs. 300
• Rain Visor with Chrome Insert - Rs. 1075
• Magnetic Sun Shades Set - Rs. 970
• Steering Wheel Cover - Rs. 305
• SS Door Sill Protector - Rs. 630

These are ones that caught my eye, adds to Rs. 3280.

Next comes the floor mats. M&M has given these 4 options -


..and this as a part of Adventure Accessories -


I am a sucker for good 3D mats, and my XUV5OO had the OE mats (which were of good quality too). This is leading me to take the Bushranger mats - but I am worried that these will be slippery too.

Has anyone checked if the mats that in the TD or media cars - are these the 3D Bushranger mats, or were they some "normal" unbranded mats? I missed checking this, will do so when I go to the dealership next...

And then there is the most critical, important accessory for the Thar, no thanks to the poor rearward visibility - reversing cam. The sensor read out in the MID barely "functional" - when reversing during my TD, the view was blocked by the steering.

So a reversing camera is a must for this car. And having a dual-channel dash cam like the 70mai Rearview Dash Cam, or the DDPAI Mola E3 is what has caught my fancy. These two models have a feature to continuously stream the rear camera to the rear-view mirror, so that rear-view even normal driving is not hampered - something like this:


I am also thinking of the full-body or half-body covers - but then I barely have used the car covers that I had for my previous cars. Will a cover help keeping the convertible top "cleaner" and lasting?

Finally, I will definitely need the 7-slot grill for my Thar.

So, BHPians who have booked the Thar, have you given a thought about the accessories?

[amol4184]

Originally Posted by CEF_Beasts

DC has released images of the latest gen Thar they have modified and boy oh boy what a disaster. What a mess!

Anand Mahindra right now.

[justwheels]

Originally Posted by CEF_Beasts

DC has released images of the latest gen Thar they have modified and boy oh boy what a disaster. What a mess!

They can be given the shoddy photoshop job award everytime they attempt something like this. I mean who clears these attempts. We complain about manufacturers QC, there should be a block on DCs heinous attempts like these.

Offtopic, I have never liked their designs anyways.

[amol4184]

Originally Posted by justwheels

We complain about manufacturers QC, there should be a block on DCs heinous attempts like these.

+1. These guys should be charged for vandalism. Their previous attempt was equally bad. It’s not just that these vehicles look hideous, having first hand checked out a DC modded Gypsy I can confidently say the quality is real bad too. I’m pretty sure small time modders in Kerala are doing much better job than DC.